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* Spain 2022 - What's with this stupid drone thing?geoff
+* Re: Spain 2022 - What's with this stupid drone thing?News
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|  `* Re: Spain 2022 - What's with this stupid drone thing?Slang
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 by: geoff - Mon, 23 May 2022 20:46 UTC

Ghastly overly wide-angle rushing (low altitude ?) swoops.

Missed the well-thought-out, even artistic, helo shots we are used to.

geoff

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 by: News - Mon, 23 May 2022 21:00 UTC

On 5/23/2022 4:46 PM, geoff wrote:

> Ghastly overly wide-angle rushing (low altitude ?) swoops.
>
> Missed the well-thought-out, even artistic,  helo shots we are used to.
>
> geoff

Helicopters are hideously expensive per hour to operate, during
practices, quallies, and races. The impact of rapidly and persistently
escalating JET-A prices has only amplified costs.

Cable-cams have been used along the pit straight for years, and in
stadium events for a decade before that.

Liberty's production cost cutting will undoubtedly continue to eliminate
as much union scale camera and related video production labor as possible.

Welcome to the penny-pinching spectacle.

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 by: bra - Tue, 24 May 2022 18:04 UTC

On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go home and take his dam' drone with him.
"Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

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 by: News - Tue, 24 May 2022 18:16 UTC

On 5/24/2022 2:04 PM, bra wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
>
> At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go home and take his dam' drone with him.
> "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

Losing a great way to promote future events at his track, but WTH.

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 by: Alan - Tue, 24 May 2022 18:43 UTC

On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
>
> At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go home and take his dam' drone with him.
> "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video company
came out to our track and did some cool stuff...

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>

And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

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 by: texas gate - Tue, 24 May 2022 22:44 UTC

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 12:43:55 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

And yes: goody for them
Fuck off you miserable cock sucker.

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On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 4:43:55 AM UTC+10, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
> > On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
> >
> > At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go home and take his dam' drone with him.
> > "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."
> A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video company
> came out to our track and did some cool stuff...
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>
>
> And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

Cool footage.

build

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 by: Brian Lawrence - Wed, 25 May 2022 08:37 UTC

On 23/05/2022 21:46, geoff wrote:

> Ghastly overly wide-angle rushing (low altitude ?) swoops.
>
> Missed the well-thought-out, even artistic,  helo shots we are used to.

Presumably it's a fraction of the cost of a dedicated helicopter.

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 by: a425couple - Wed, 25 May 2022 14:58 UTC

On 5/24/2022 11:43 AM, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
>>
>> At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go
>> home and take his dam' drone with him.
>> "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."
>
> A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video company
> came out to our track and did some cool stuff...
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>
>
> And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

Yes. That was very nicely done.

But in general, I dislike them and find them
suddenly distracting. Them being allowed should
definitely be announced at the driver's meeting.

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From: pc+use...@asdf.org (Phil Carmody)
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 by: Phil Carmody - Wed, 25 May 2022 15:04 UTC

Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com> writes:
> On 23/05/2022 21:46, geoff wrote:
>> Ghastly overly wide-angle rushing (low altitude ?) swoops.
>>
>> Missed the well-thought-out, even artistic,  helo shots we are used
>> to.
>
> Presumably it's a fraction of the cost of a dedicated helicopter.

I did some fermi calcs, and it's probably two orders of magnitude
cheaper. Given that drones can do 0-200 in less than a second, I expect
to see them bringing a new perspective on the starts too. Bring it on -
I like it; I certainly prefer it to the helmet wobblicam. But we need
more of them to make sure they pull their weight.

Phil
--
We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have
gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast
aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
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 by: News - Wed, 25 May 2022 15:46 UTC

On 5/25/2022 11:04 AM, Phil Carmody wrote:
> Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com> writes:
>> On 23/05/2022 21:46, geoff wrote:
>>> Ghastly overly wide-angle rushing (low altitude ?) swoops.
>>>
>>> Missed the well-thought-out, even artistic,  helo shots we are used
>>> to.
>>
>> Presumably it's a fraction of the cost of a dedicated helicopter.
>
> I did some fermi calcs, and it's probably two orders of magnitude
> cheaper. Given that drones can do 0-200 in less than a second, I expect
> to see them bringing a new perspective on the starts too. Bring it on -
> I like it; I certainly prefer it to the helmet wobblicam. But we need
> more of them to make sure they pull their weight.
>
> Phil

Fermi? The back of an envelope without a pencil is all that's needed.

'More' is not better. Properly thought out and deployed is better.

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 by: Slang - Wed, 25 May 2022 17:01 UTC

Il 24/05/2022 20:43, Alan ha scritto:
> On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
>>
>> At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go
>> home and take his dam' drone with him.
>> "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."
>
> A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video company
> came out to our track and did some cool stuff...
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>
>
> And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ECs-9A4oXs
Aaarghhhhh...
S

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 by: News - Wed, 25 May 2022 17:16 UTC

On 5/25/2022 1:01 PM, Slang wrote:
> Il 24/05/2022 20:43, Alan ha scritto:
>> On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
>>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
>>>
>>> At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go
>>> home and take his dam' drone with him.
>>> "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."
>>
>> A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video
>> company came out to our track and did some cool stuff...
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>
>>
>> And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ECs-9A4oXs
> Aaarghhhhh...
> S

Rallye and Drifto versions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo5gScJ-IU8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK7QZmMtSD8

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 by: Mark Jackson - Wed, 25 May 2022 17:51 UTC

On 5/25/2022 11:04 AM, Phil Carmody wrote:
> But we need
> more of them to make sure they pull their weight.

What is the carrying capacity of a (European or African) sparrow?

--
Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
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 by: Alan - Wed, 25 May 2022 18:28 UTC

On 2022-05-24 11:13 p.m., build wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 4:43:55 AM UTC+10, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
>>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
>>>
>>> At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go home and take his dam' drone with him.
>>> "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."
>> A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video company
>> came out to our track and did some cool stuff...
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>
>>
>> And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.
>
> Cool footage.

Yup!

If you knew what you were looking for, you can see my little aluminum
trailer and blue pop-up.

There's another video they did that I couldn't find that shows a couple
of seconds of the open wheel group headed for either practice or
qualifying (or perhaps being released after a black flag; it was 9 years
ago), but I remember having a discussion and it was decided that it
would be best not to fly over us after that; it being one thing to have
a drone hit your windshield if it should fall and quite another to be
hit in the helmet.

There are also some pretty cool videos that the created by editing
together video taken by static cameras placed around the track to create
and after-the-fact "television broadcast" of a race.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGiRe__4Z3o&t=11s>

:-)

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 by: Alan - Wed, 25 May 2022 18:37 UTC

On 2022-05-25 7:58 a.m., a425couple wrote:
> On 5/24/2022 11:43 AM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
>>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
>>>
>>> At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go
>>> home and take his dam' drone with him.
>>> "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."
>>
>> A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video
>> company came out to our track and did some cool stuff...
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>
>>
>> And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.
>
> Yes.  That was very nicely done.
>
> But in general, I dislike them and find them
> suddenly distracting.  Them being allowed should
> definitely be announced at the driver's meeting.

And it was.

They also kept it quite high up so that it wasn't distracting anyone.

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 by: Alan - Wed, 25 May 2022 18:38 UTC

On 2022-05-25 10:01 a.m., Slang wrote:
> Il 24/05/2022 20:43, Alan ha scritto:
>> On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
>>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
>>>
>>> At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go
>>> home and take his dam' drone with him.
>>> "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."
>>
>> A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video
>> company came out to our track and did some cool stuff...
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>
>>
>> And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ECs-9A4oXs
> Aaarghhhhh...
> S

What's got you so worked up?

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 by: Alan - Wed, 25 May 2022 18:43 UTC

On 2022-05-25 10:16 a.m., News wrote:
> On 5/25/2022 1:01 PM, Slang wrote:
>> Il 24/05/2022 20:43, Alan ha scritto:
>>> On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
>>>>
>>>> At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go
>>>> home and take his dam' drone with him.
>>>> "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."
>>>
>>> A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video
>>> company came out to our track and did some cool stuff...
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>
>>>
>>> And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ECs-9A4oXs
>> Aaarghhhhh...
>> S
>
>
> Rallye and Drifto versions
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo5gScJ-IU8
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK7QZmMtSD8

Yes.

You have discovered that humans can be stupid about anything.

But would you rather a drone hit you...

....or a helicopter?

:-)

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On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:38:25 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> What's got you so worked up?

None of your business.
You trolling creepy freak.

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On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:43:39 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> You have discovered that humans can be stupid about anything.

This from the king of stupid.

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 by: News - Wed, 25 May 2022 19:27 UTC

On 5/25/2022 2:43 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-05-25 10:16 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 5/25/2022 1:01 PM, Slang wrote:
>>> Il 24/05/2022 20:43, Alan ha scritto:
>>>> On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to
>>>>> go home and take his dam' drone with him.
>>>>> "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."
>>>>
>>>> A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video
>>>> company came out to our track and did some cool stuff...
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>
>>>>
>>>> And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ECs-9A4oXs
>>> Aaarghhhhh...
>>> S
>>
>>
>> Rallye and Drifto versions
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo5gScJ-IU8
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK7QZmMtSD8
>
> Yes.
>
> You have discovered that humans can be stupid about anything.
>
> But would you rather a drone hit you...
>
> ...or a helicopter?
>
> :-)

Only a moron would operate a helicopter as you wrote.

Which explains what you wrote.

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On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:37:51 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> They also kept it quite high up so that it wasn't distracting anyone.

You are fucking high.

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 by: Alan - Wed, 25 May 2022 21:05 UTC

On 2022-05-25 12:27 p.m., News wrote:
> On 5/25/2022 2:43 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-05-25 10:16 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 5/25/2022 1:01 PM, Slang wrote:
>>>> Il 24/05/2022 20:43, Alan ha scritto:
>>>>> On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to
>>>>>> go home and take his dam' drone with him.
>>>>>> "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."
>>>>>
>>>>> A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video
>>>>> company came out to our track and did some cool stuff...
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ECs-9A4oXs
>>>> Aaarghhhhh...
>>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>> Rallye and Drifto versions
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo5gScJ-IU8
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK7QZmMtSD8
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> You have discovered that humans can be stupid about anything.
>>
>> But would you rather a drone hit you...
>>
>> ...or a helicopter?
>>
>> :-)
>
>
> Only a moron would operate a helicopter as you wrote.
>
> Which explains what you wrote.

Way to completely miss the point.

Yes: both of those drone operators screwed up...

....but everyone walked away safely...

....because they were DRONES!

Helicopter pilots wouldn't operate that way of course...

....but it's still an extreme regime to get low enough to follow a race.

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On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:28:32 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> If you knew what you were looking for, you can see my little aluminum
> trailer and blue pop-up.

Where is the footage of you getting
the fuck kicked out of yourself
for being a mouthpiece dumb cunt?

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On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:28:32 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> my little aluminum trailer

this from a little man

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