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by: News - Tue, 14 Jun 2022 14:57 UTC

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by: XYXPDQ - Tue, 14 Jun 2022 17:36 UTC

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by: Bigbird - Tue, 14 Jun 2022 21:10 UTC

News wrote:

> Poor Toto and the money cap...
>
>
https://thejudge13.com/2022/06/11/mercedes-boss-wants-hamiltonss-pay-cut/

"Boss wants to pay staff less" Did it make the news at ten? He wants to
have his cake and eat it.

If they want to pay drivers less then offer them less and/or ask less
of them. Who negotiated the drivers salaries?
They aren't just contracted to drive the cars but for a lot of
corporate stuff too. Do the teams really want them to drop the
corporate stuff?

“We have $140million for 1000 people" Why do you have a thousand
people. F1 should not pay well enough to support a thousand people in a
team.

Why not simply include driver's salaries in the cap that way those not
paying monstrous salaries will see some benefit.

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by: News - Wed, 15 Jun 2022 15:22 UTC

On 6/14/2022 5:10 PM, Bigbird wrote:
> News wrote:
>
>> Poor Toto and the money cap...
>>
>>
> https://thejudge13.com/2022/06/11/mercedes-boss-wants-hamiltonss-pay-cut/
>
> "Boss wants to pay staff less" Did it make the news at ten? He wants to
> have his cake and eat it.
>
> If they want to pay drivers less then offer them less and/or ask less
> of them. Who negotiated the drivers salaries?
> They aren't just contracted to drive the cars but for a lot of
> corporate stuff too. Do the teams really want them to drop the
> corporate stuff?
>
> “We have $140million for 1000 people" Why do you have a thousand
> people. F1 should not pay well enough to support a thousand people in a
> team.
>
> Why not simply include driver's salaries in the cap that way those not
> paying monstrous salaries will see some benefit.
>

So obvious, even a bird gets it.

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by: Bigbird - Wed, 15 Jun 2022 22:19 UTC

News wrote:

> On 6/14/2022 5:10 PM, Bigbird wrote:
> > News wrote:
> >
> > > Poor Toto and the money cap...
> > >
> > >
> >
https://thejudge13.com/2022/06/11/mercedes-boss-wants-hamiltonss-pay-cut/
> >
> > "Boss wants to pay staff less" Did it make the news at ten? He
> > wants to have his cake and eat it.
> >
> > If they want to pay drivers less then offer them less and/or ask
> > less of them. Who negotiated the drivers salaries?
> > They aren't just contracted to drive the cars but for a lot of
> > corporate stuff too. Do the teams really want them to drop the
> > corporate stuff?
> >
> > “We have $140million for 1000 people" Why do you have a thousand
> > people. F1 should not pay well enough to support a thousand people
> > in a team.
> >
> > Why not simply include driver's salaries in the cap that way those
> > not paying monstrous salaries will see some benefit.
> >
>
> So obvious, even a bird gets it.

Yet you didn't. Oh well, happy to help.

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by: Dan the Man - Thu, 16 Jun 2022 13:34 UTC

On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 1:36:24 PM UTC-4, XYXPDQ wrote:
> There should be a soft driver pay cap. If teams paid over the cap they would get a fee that would be divided among the other teams.
That's what they already do in Major League Baseball; the biggest spenders pay a "luxury tax" that's divided amongst the more frugal teams.

Dan

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by: Phil Carmody - Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:43 UTC

"Bigbird" <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> writes:
> News wrote:
>> Poor Toto and the money cap...
>>
> https://thejudge13.com/2022/06/11/mercedes-boss-wants-hamiltonss-pay-cut/

> “We have $140million for 1000 people" Why do you have a thousand
> people. F1 should not pay well enough to support a thousand people in
> a team.

I don't begrudge them being popular and successful, but I don't think
they've earnt any heartfelt sympathy for being that position either.

One metric that I've used in order to evaluate company size and
corporate structure is whether the CEO knows every employee's
name. Anyone who Toto can't name walks?

> Why not simply include driver's salaries in the cap that way those not
> paying monstrous salaries will see some benefit.

No, it's better this way because it comes out of the monthly current
budget, and not the capital account.

Phil
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Subject	Author
Boss wants serfs' pay cut	News
Re: Boss wants serfs' pay cut	XYXPDQ
Re: Boss wants serfs' pay cut	Dan the Man
Re: Boss wants serfs' pay cut	Bigbird
Re: Boss wants serfs' pay cut	News
Re: Boss wants serfs' pay cut	Bigbird
Re: Boss wants serfs' pay cut	Phil Carmody