OT, but related - Appreciate excellence - by Jay Leno

CARS - LIFE - RESTORATION

So here are some very sage words from Jay Leno about old cars and their
restoration which I thought were perfectly right for this group.

"Once I had a gentleman on The Tonight Show who had climbed Mount
Everest, which is an amazing feat that is nearly impossible for most
people under the best of circumstances. But this guy was also blind.
Imagine being 29,000 feet up, grabbing at snow, not knowing if it’s
night or day, with the wind howling and every breath a challenge, and
you can’t see anything. Anyway, he was a nice gentleman and an
incredible athlete who afterward had been doing motivational speaking. I
asked him how it was going and he sort of grimaced. He said the
frustrating part was the meet-and-greet after, when at least one person
in every audience would come up and say, “Yeah, I was going to climb
Mount Everest, but, you know, the kids have soccer and work is crazy and
I just haven’t gotten around to it.”

Like it was so easy except, you know, soccer practice. Here this fellow
had trained his whole life to do something that maybe one out of 10
million people can do, had endured incredible hardship, and had even
overcome the fact that he was blind, and people were so dismissive of it.

Maybe it’s because life has gotten pretty soft and we don’t make
anything for ourselves anymore, but we’re losing respect for other
people’s accomplishments and hard work, for what the human hand can do
instead of just the human brain. I hear this all the time from guys who
have their cars restored and who have never turned a wrench in their
lives: All mechanics are crooks, they’ll overcharge you at every turn.
They’ll moan about the high cost of a paint job, for example, not
realizing that the paint is $600 a quart and somebody has to spend hours
sanding it and finishing it because a good finish doesn’t come out of a
rattle-can of Rust-Oleum.

Our appreciation or understanding of other people’s hard work is fading,
and that rankles me. The last time I pulled a transmission out of
something here at the garage, it took hours and my hands were bleeding
and covered in grease, and I thought, “Some guy only makes a couple
hundred bucks for doing that?” That’s why I don’t usually question a
quote for something we need to get done outside the garage. Good work
doesn’t seem expensive when you think about how much actual effort goes
into it, and that someone needs to be able to make a living doing it or
else nobody will do it. Besides, I have yet to meet anyone who is
getting rich by sandblasting rusty parts or re-chroming bumpers. They’re
not overcharging—in fact, they’re probably undercharging.

Well, nowadays we watch these shows where they restore a car in a
weekend, literally, and it seems so easy. The sparks are flying and guys
are trying to ram a big-screen TV into the dash, and after a couple of
commercial breaks and some pounding music, the car is done. It gives
people an unrealistic picture of what it takes to restore a car—the
thousands of hours, many of which are never billed. Just the amount of
research a restorer has to do, figuring out how things go together and
what is supposed to be original, is huge.

These days, Amazon will drop a package on your doorstep the same day you
order it, so we’re also losing touch with how long things take in the
real world. A very famous country western star called me not long ago
and said, “It’s my husband’s birthday, he’s always wanted a 1953 Ford
F-100, a red one, and I want to get one for his birthday. Can you get me
one?” I said I couldn’t promise it would be red, but I would look
around. Then I asked when his birthday is. She said, “Thursday.” I said,
“This is Tuesday! I’m not going to find a car in two days. It takes
awhile!” She didn’t get it.

Next time you’re walking a car show, before you judge some guy because
his paint isn’t perfect, think about how much of the work you do
yourself. Unlike everything else we buy these days, there’s nothing
quick, easy, or cheap about old cars. And while few of us will ever
climb Mount Everest, restoring a classic car is enough of a mountain for
most people. Give them some credit."

Sent from my iPhone

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-6, a425couple wrote:
> OT, but related - Appreciate excellence - by Jay Leno
>
<snip>

That was a good read, thanks.

FWIW
DLM

On 12/15/2022 9:34 AM, D Munz wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-6, a425couple wrote:
>> OT, but related - Appreciate excellence - by Jay Leno
>>
> <snip>
>
> That was a good read, thanks.
>
> FWIW
> DLM

+1

Definitely resonates.

On 12/15/22 08:58, News wrote:
> On 12/15/2022 9:34 AM, D Munz wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-6, a425couple wrote:
>>> OT, but related - Appreciate excellence - by Jay Leno
>>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> That was a good read, thanks.
>> FWIW
>> DLM
>
> +1
> Definitely resonates.
>

I thank both Munz and News for letting me know my OT post
was appreciated. Yes, I felt it "resonates" with us
F1 fans, who just appreciate seeing individuals and
teams go 'all in' on chasing perfection in an imperfect
world.

On 12/15/2022 1:00 PM, a425couple wrote:
> On 12/15/22 08:58, News wrote:
>> On 12/15/2022 9:34 AM, D Munz wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-6, a425couple wrote:
>>>> OT, but related - Appreciate excellence - by Jay Leno
>>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> That was a good read, thanks.
>>> FWIW
>>> DLM
>>
>> +1
>> Definitely resonates.
> >
>
> I thank both Munz and News for letting me know my OT post
> was appreciated.  Yes, I felt it "resonates" with us
> F1 fans, who just appreciate seeing individuals and
> teams go 'all in' on chasing perfection in an imperfect
> world.
>
>
>

Indeed, and also resonates with those keeping old sports cars alive,
despite the impacts of aging, deterioration, parts scarcity, and all
related odds.

On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 08:08:21 -0800, a425couple
<a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

>OT, but related - Appreciate excellence - by Jay Leno
>
>CARS - LIFE - RESTORATION
>
>So here are some very sage words from Jay Leno about old cars and their
>restoration which I thought were perfectly right for this group.
>
>"Once I had a gentleman on The Tonight Show who had climbed Mount
>Everest, which is an amazing feat that is nearly impossible for most
>people under the best of circumstances. But this guy was also blind.
>Imagine being 29,000 feet up, grabbing at snow, not knowing if it’s
>night or day, with the wind howling and every breath a challenge, and
>you can’t see anything. Anyway, he was a nice gentleman and an
>incredible athlete who afterward had been doing motivational speaking. I
>asked him how it was going and he sort of grimaced. He said the
>frustrating part was the meet-and-greet after, when at least one person
>in every audience would come up and say, “Yeah, I was going to climb
>Mount Everest, but, you know, the kids have soccer and work is crazy and
>I just haven’t gotten around to it.”
>
>Like it was so easy except, you know, soccer practice. Here this fellow
>had trained his whole life to do something that maybe one out of 10
>million people can do, had endured incredible hardship, and had even
>overcome the fact that he was blind, and people were so dismissive of it.
>
>Maybe it’s because life has gotten pretty soft and we don’t make
>anything for ourselves anymore, but we’re losing respect for other
>people’s accomplishments and hard work, for what the human hand can do
>instead of just the human brain. I hear this all the time from guys who
>have their cars restored and who have never turned a wrench in their
>lives: All mechanics are crooks, they’ll overcharge you at every turn.
>They’ll moan about the high cost of a paint job, for example, not
>realizing that the paint is $600 a quart and somebody has to spend hours
>sanding it and finishing it because a good finish doesn’t come out of a
>rattle-can of Rust-Oleum.
>
>Our appreciation or understanding of other people’s hard work is fading,
>and that rankles me. The last time I pulled a transmission out of
>something here at the garage, it took hours and my hands were bleeding
>and covered in grease, and I thought, “Some guy only makes a couple
>hundred bucks for doing that?” That’s why I don’t usually question a
>quote for something we need to get done outside the garage. Good work
>doesn’t seem expensive when you think about how much actual effort goes
>into it, and that someone needs to be able to make a living doing it or
>else nobody will do it. Besides, I have yet to meet anyone who is
>getting rich by sandblasting rusty parts or re-chroming bumpers. They’re
>not overcharging—in fact, they’re probably undercharging.
>
>Well, nowadays we watch these shows where they restore a car in a
>weekend, literally, and it seems so easy. The sparks are flying and guys
>are trying to ram a big-screen TV into the dash, and after a couple of
>commercial breaks and some pounding music, the car is done. It gives
>people an unrealistic picture of what it takes to restore a car—the
>thousands of hours, many of which are never billed. Just the amount of
>research a restorer has to do, figuring out how things go together and
>what is supposed to be original, is huge.
>
>These days, Amazon will drop a package on your doorstep the same day you
>order it, so we’re also losing touch with how long things take in the
>real world. A very famous country western star called me not long ago
>and said, “It’s my husband’s birthday, he’s always wanted a 1953 Ford
>F-100, a red one, and I want to get one for his birthday. Can you get me
>one?” I said I couldn’t promise it would be red, but I would look
>around. Then I asked when his birthday is. She said, “Thursday.” I said,
>“This is Tuesday! I’m not going to find a car in two days. It takes
>awhile!” She didn’t get it.
>
>Next time you’re walking a car show, before you judge some guy because
>his paint isn’t perfect, think about how much of the work you do
>yourself. Unlike everything else we buy these days, there’s nothing
>quick, easy, or cheap about old cars. And while few of us will ever
>climb Mount Everest, restoring a classic car is enough of a mountain for
>most people. Give them some credit."
>
>Sent from my iPhone

Good points in that article. A related aspect is that we are living in
an age when some people think that watching a 10-minute YouTube video
makes them a qualified expert in just about anything.

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:45:21 PM UTC-7, martin...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good points in that article. A related aspect is that we are living in
> an age when some people think that watching a 10-minute YouTube video
> makes them a qualified expert in just about anything.

oh poor fucking you
dont watch you tube then
you miserable bitch

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:45:21 PM UTC-7, martin...@gmail.com wrote:

> A related aspect is that we are living in
> an age when some people think that watching a 10-minute YouTube video
> makes them a qualified expert in just about anything.

who the fuck is 'we'?
this aint facebook
you dim fuck