Further to our discussion about the pool I see that quoted odds are:

Max Verstappen -250
Sergio Perez 4-1
Fernando Alonso 8-1
Charles Leclerc 20-1
Lewis Hamilton 25-1
George Russell 33-1
Carlos Sainz 40-1
Lance Stroll 100-1
Pierre Gasly 400-1
Esteban Ocon 400-1
Nico Hulkenberg 1000-1
Kevin Magnussen 1000-1
Lando Norris 1000-1
Oscar Piastri 1000-1
Valtteri Bottas 1500-1
Guanyu Zhou 1500-1
Logan Sargeant 2000-1
Nyck De Vries 2500-1

I take the -250 to mean that a stake of 250 wins 100

The last time I bet on a motor race was at Brands Hatch when Ladbroke had a
tent there. I made a modest investment on Roger Williamson to win the F3
race. Roger duly obliged and my winnings
paid for beer for the rest of the weekend.

--
Sir Tim

On 2023-03-31 12:59 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
> Further to our discussion about the pool I see that quoted odds are:
>
> Max Verstappen -250
> Sergio Perez 4-1
> Fernando Alonso 8-1
> Charles Leclerc 20-1
> Lewis Hamilton 25-1
> George Russell 33-1
> Carlos Sainz 40-1
> Lance Stroll 100-1
> Pierre Gasly 400-1
> Esteban Ocon 400-1
> Nico Hulkenberg 1000-1
> Kevin Magnussen 1000-1
> Lando Norris 1000-1
> Oscar Piastri 1000-1
> Valtteri Bottas 1500-1
> Guanyu Zhou 1500-1
> Logan Sargeant 2000-1
> Nyck De Vries 2500-1
>
> I take the -250 to mean that a stake of 250 wins 100
>
> The last time I bet on a motor race was at Brands Hatch when Ladbroke had a
> tent there. I made a modest investment on Roger Williamson to win the F3
> race. Roger duly obliged and my winnings
> paid for beer for the rest of the weekend.
>
Given the recent results -- Russell vs Hamilton -- I find it somewhat
odd that the odds are indicating that Hamilton is given a better chance
than Russell

On 3/31/23 09:59, Sir Tim wrote:
> Further to our discussion about the pool I see that quoted odds are:
>
> Max Verstappen -250
> Sergio Perez 4-1
> Fernando Alonso 8-1
> Charles Leclerc 20-1
> Lewis Hamilton 25-1
> George Russell 33-1
> Carlos Sainz 40-1
snip
>
> I take the -250 to mean that a stake of 250 wins 100
>
> The last time I bet on a motor race was at Brands Hatch when Ladbroke
had a
> tent there. I made a modest investment on Roger Williamson to win the F3
> race. Roger duly obliged and my winnings
> paid for beer for the rest of the weekend.
>

Good for you and your bet.
Yeah,, I'm not seeing where anything in the current betting odds
that tempts me.

You sent me on a trip of memory: Youtube of that race:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxnPsTdg9MU
Roger Williamson wins Formula 3 in Silverstone Circuit 1972
and that got me thinking of my old Elden, turns out it raced there 1973.

and other memories, took me to:
https://www.eldenracing.com/history/the-cars/mk-9-formula-3/
and
https://www.eldenracing.com/history/the-cars/mk-12-formula-3/

Photos also remind me of another strong memory,
now I'm not large, but boy those English drivers around
1972 sure did have small feet!

Darryl Johnson wrote:

> Given the recent results -- Russell vs Hamilton -- I find it somewhat
> odd that the odds are indicating that Hamilton is given a better
> chance than Russell

Odds reflect the betting as much as the probability and are skewed by
fan bets.

On 1/04/2023 10:24 am, Darryl Johnson wrote:
> On 2023-03-31 12:59 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
>> Further to our discussion about the pool I see that quoted odds are:
>>
>> Max Verstappen -250
>> Sergio Perez 4-1
>> Fernando Alonso 8-1
>> Charles Leclerc 20-1
>> Lewis Hamilton 25-1
>> George Russell 33-1
>> Carlos Sainz 40-1
>> Lance Stroll 100-1
>> Pierre Gasly 400-1
>> Esteban Ocon 400-1
>> Nico Hulkenberg 1000-1
>> Kevin Magnussen 1000-1
>> Lando Norris 1000-1
>> Oscar Piastri 1000-1
>> Valtteri Bottas 1500-1
>> Guanyu Zhou 1500-1
>> Logan Sargeant 2000-1
>> Nyck De Vries 2500-1
>>
>> I take the -250 to mean that a stake of 250 wins 100
>>
>> The last time I bet on a motor race was at Brands Hatch when Ladbroke had a
>> tent there. I made a modest investment on Roger Williamson to win the F3
>> race. Roger duly obliged and my winnings
>> paid for beer for the rest of the weekend.
>>
> Given the recent results -- Russell vs Hamilton -- I find it somewhat odd that the odds are
> indicating that Hamilton is given a better chance than Russell

Yeah but then this year Hamilton has more points than Russell...
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville

This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.

On 3/31/23 15:24, Bigbird wrote:
> Darryl Johnson wrote:
>
>> Given the recent results -- Russell vs Hamilton -- I find it somewhat
>> odd that the odds are indicating that Hamilton is given a better
>> chance than Russell
>
> Odds reflect the betting as much as the probability and are skewed by
> fan bets.
>
Yes.
Some bet with their hearts, while
others bet their brains, odds and probabilities.

And sadly, once you go with odds, that Darth Vader
is most likely to win, you do start to have some
wishes for that.

On 1/04/2023 10:24 am, Darryl Johnson wrote:
> On 2023-03-31 12:59 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
>> Further to our discussion about the pool I see that quoted odds are:
>>
>> Max Verstappen -250
>> Sergio Perez 4-1
>> Fernando Alonso 8-1
>> Charles Leclerc 20-1
>> Lewis Hamilton 25-1
>> George Russell 33-1
>> Carlos Sainz 40-1
>> Lance Stroll 100-1
>> Pierre Gasly 400-1
>> Esteban Ocon 400-1
>> Nico Hulkenberg 1000-1
>> Kevin Magnussen 1000-1
>> Lando Norris 1000-1
>> Oscar Piastri 1000-1
>> Valtteri Bottas 1500-1
>> Guanyu Zhou 1500-1
>> Logan Sargeant 2000-1
>> Nyck De Vries 2500-1
>>
>> I take the -250 to mean that a stake of 250 wins 100
>>
>> The last time I bet on a motor race was at Brands Hatch when Ladbroke
>> had a
>> tent there. I made a modest investment on Roger Williamson to win the F3
>> race. Roger duly obliged and my winnings
>> paid for beer for the rest of the weekend.
>>
> Given the recent results -- Russell vs Hamilton -- I find it somewhat
> odd that the odds are indicating that Hamilton is given a better chance
> than Russell

Alan too.

geoff

On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 4:53:26 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

> Alan

stop sucking his cock
you trolling, no life, simpleton

a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/31/23 09:59, Sir Tim wrote:
>> Further to our discussion about the pool I see that quoted odds are:
>>
>> Max Verstappen -250
>> Sergio Perez 4-1
>> Fernando Alonso 8-1
>> Charles Leclerc 20-1
>> Lewis Hamilton 25-1
>> George Russell 33-1
>> Carlos Sainz 40-1
> snip
>>
>> I take the -250 to mean that a stake of 250 wins 100
>>
>> The last time I bet on a motor race was at Brands Hatch when Ladbroke
> had a
>> tent there. I made a modest investment on Roger Williamson to win the F3
>> race. Roger duly obliged and my winnings
>> paid for beer for the rest of the weekend.
>>
>
> Good for you and your bet.
> Yeah,, I'm not seeing where anything in the current betting odds
> that tempts me.
>
> You sent me on a trip of memory: Youtube of that race:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxnPsTdg9MU
> Roger Williamson wins Formula 3 in Silverstone Circuit 1972
> and that got me thinking of my old Elden, turns out it raced there 1973.
>
> and other memories, took me to:
> https://www.eldenracing.com/history/the-cars/mk-9-formula-3/
> and
> https://www.eldenracing.com/history/the-cars/mk-12-formula-3/
>
> Photos also remind me of another strong memory,
> now I'm not large, but boy those English drivers around
> 1972 sure did have small feet!
>
Thanks for that, a great reminder of how exciting F3 was at that time.

I see that Andy Sutcliffe drove an Elden. I well remember stopping in the
middle of the night to help retrieve his trailer, complete with F3 car,
from a ditch somewhere in France on the way to Monaco. Sadly Andy died
recently.

--
Sir Tim

Sir Tim <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> I see that Andy Sutcliffe drove an Elden. I well remember stopping in the
> middle of the night to help retrieve his trailer, complete with F3 car,
> from a ditch somewhere in France on the way to Monaco. Sadly Andy died
> recently.
>
No so recently actually - 2015 (aged 68).

--
Sir Tim