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 by: Sreekumar A - Wed, 17 May 2023 11:46 UTC

Severe rains and floods.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/formula-1-cancels-imola-gp-due-to-weather-emergency-/10470443/

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 by: D Munz - Wed, 17 May 2023 14:37 UTC

From The Athletic

F1’s Emilia Romagna GP cancelled due to flooding in Italy
By Luke Smith

Formula One has cancelled this weekend’s Emilia Romagna Grand Prix at Imola due to severe flooding in the area. Here’s everything you need to know:
• Heavy rain and flooding around Imola meant the paddock had to be evacuated as a precaution on Tuesday, and remained closed to all F1 team personnel on Wednesday.
• Photos from the circuit showed the Formula 2 and Formula 3 paddock were severely flooded, while roads going to the track from the east had been flooded.
• Discussions between F1 and the local authorities led to the race being cancelled on Wednesday due to safety concerns, and the extra burden it would place on local services.
What F1 said on Wednesday
“Following discussions between Formula 1, the President of the FIA, the competent authorities including the relevant Ministers, the President of the Automobile Club of Italy, the President of Emilia Romagna Region, the Mayor of the City and the promoter the decision has been taken not to proceed with the Grand Prix weekend in Imola,” read a statement from F1.

“The decision has been taken because it is not possible to safely hold the event for our fans, the teams and our personnel and it is the right and responsible thing to do given the situation faced by the towns and cities in the region.
“It would not be right to put further pressure on the local authorities and emergency services at this difficult time.”

Backstory
The Emilia Romagna region has been suffering from severe flooding after unprecedented rainfall in the past two weeks, forcing more than 5,000 people to be evacuated and claiming three lives.
The extreme weather showed no sign of easing when the first F1 personnel arrived early this week to begin setting up the various hospitality units and paddock infrastructure.
Concerns about flooding from the Santerno river next to the circuit led to the F1 paddock being evacuated on Tuesday as a precaution, before remaining shut on Wednesday while further discussions took place.
Ahead of the official announcement, Italy’s deputy prime minister Matteo Salvini called for the race to be called off so the focus could be placed on the relief effort. Alerts have been given to those in the worst-affected areas to move up to higher ground if possible. Parts of the nearby town of Faenza, where the AlphaTauri is located, are underwater due to the flooding, although the team’s factory is unaffected.
“It is such a tragedy to see what has happened to Imola and Emilia Romagna, the town and region that I grew up in and my thoughts and prayers are with the victims of the flooding and the families and communities affected,” said F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali.
“I want to express my gratitude and admiration for the incredible emergency services who are working tirelessly to help those who need help and alleviate the situation – they are heroes and the whole of Italy is proud on them.
“The decision that has been taken is the right one for everyone in the local communities and the F1 family as we need to ensure safety and not create extra burden for the authorities while they deal with this very awful situation.”
It is the first time that an F1 race has been called off due to severe weather. The most recent race to be called off so close to its scheduled date was the Australian Grand Prix in 2020, which was cancelled hours before practice was due to begin as the Covid-19 pandemic shut down sport across the world.

What happens next for F1?
The focus for those in Imola will be to safely take down any of the paddock infrastructure that had been put up prior to the evacuation. This will be taken by road to Monaco, which will host the next grand prix on May 28.
Although Thursday is forecast to be dry at Imola, heavy rain is set to return across Friday, Saturday and Sunday when track running was due to take place.
Finding another date for Imola’s race to take place this year will be evaluated, but F1 faces a significant challenge to make it happen due to the congested schedule.
Between now and the start of F1’s summer break at the end of July, there are just three free weekends. But placing Imola in any of those gaps would create some lengthier runs of races that are unlikely to be viable for F1.
After the summer break, F1 will host two more European races — the Dutch Grand Prix and the Italian Grand Prix — before a run of events across Asia, the Americas and the Middle East to close out the season.
It therefore looks unlikely a place can be found for Imola to rejoin the schedule this year, meaning the 2023 calendar looks set to drop to 22 races.

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 by: geoff - Thu, 18 May 2023 00:57 UTC

On 17/05/2023 11:46 pm, Sreekumar A wrote:
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> Severe rains and floods.
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> https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/formula-1-cancels-imola-gp-due-to-weather-emergency-/10470443/
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> Sreekumar

Should make an interesting race ....

geoff

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 by: geoff - Thu, 18 May 2023 01:02 UTC

On 18/05/2023 12:57 pm, geoff wrote:
> On 17/05/2023 11:46 pm, Sreekumar A wrote:
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>> Severe rains and floods.
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>> https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/formula-1-cancels-imola-gp-due-to-weather-emergency-/10470443/
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>> Sreekumar
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> Should make an interesting race ....
>
> geoff

Or more aptly, "Would have ..."

geoff

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 by: texas gate - Thu, 18 May 2023 02:34 UTC

On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 7:04:04 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:
> On 18/05/2023 12:57 pm, geoff wrote:

> > Should make an interesting race ....
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> Or more aptly, "Would have ..."
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> geoff

just say no to drugs

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 by: Sreekumar A - Thu, 18 May 2023 02:52 UTC

> Or more aptly, "Would have ..."
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Was wondering....
They were planning to apply new tyre rules for qualification. So that
would be delayed to later.

Sreekumar

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 by: XYXPDQ - Thu, 18 May 2023 15:47 UTC

All the teams benefit from not having stress to their allocation parts. Beyond that Merc would seem to get the most as they get a free week to just work on their 2.0 car and not fall further behind for second place in the constructors title chase.

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 by: Alan - Thu, 18 May 2023 16:15 UTC

On 2023-05-18 08:47, XYXPDQ wrote:
> All the teams benefit from not having stress to their allocation parts. Beyond that Merc would seem to get the most as they get a free week to just work on their 2.0 car and not fall further behind for second place in the constructors title chase.

And you assume that all the other teams...

....including Red Bull...

....will just take the week off?

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 by: leonard hofstatder - Thu, 18 May 2023 17:04 UTC

On 5/18/2023 10:47 AM, XYXPDQ wrote:
> All the teams benefit from not having stress to their allocation parts. Beyond that Merc would seem to get the most as they get a free week to just work on their 2.0 car and not fall further behind for second place in the constructors title chase.

Sucks we must wait until Barcelona for the next race.

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 by: XYXPDQ - Thu, 18 May 2023 18:39 UTC

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 9:15:38 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-05-18 08:47, XYXPDQ wrote:
> > All the teams benefit from not having stress to their allocation parts. Beyond that Merc would seem to get the most as they get a free week to just work on their 2.0 car and not fall further behind for second place in the constructors title chase.
> And you assume that all the other teams...
>
> ...including Red Bull...
>
> ...will just take the week off?

No, but Merc seems to be planning the biggest upgrade with the whole sidepod redesign, the other top teams are refining what they have.

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 by: Alan - Thu, 18 May 2023 19:04 UTC

On 2023-05-18 11:39, XYXPDQ wrote:
> On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 9:15:38 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-05-18 08:47, XYXPDQ wrote:
>>> All the teams benefit from not having stress to their allocation parts. Beyond that Merc would seem to get the most as they get a free week to just work on their 2.0 car and not fall further behind for second place in the constructors title chase.
>> And you assume that all the other teams...
>>
>> ...including Red Bull...
>>
>> ...will just take the week off?
>
> No, but Merc seems to be planning the biggest upgrade with the whole sidepod redesign, the other top teams are refining what they have.

Because what the other teams have is working for the most part.

An in season "biggest upgrade" is almost always a desperate roll of the
dice.

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 by: Mark Jackson - Thu, 18 May 2023 19:21 UTC

On 5/17/2023 10:52 PM, Sreekumar A wrote:
> Was wondering.... They were planning to apply new tyre rules for
> qualification. So that would be delayed to later.

Hungary was supposed to be the second of "up to two" trials of the
proposed tire allocation. Now it will be the first - or the only, if a
later second one [can't be | isn't] scheduled.

--
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that I look like Steve Bannon by an 80 year-old buddhist
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 by: texas gate - Fri, 19 May 2023 00:20 UTC

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 10:15:38 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> And you assume that all the other teams...
>
> ...including Red Bull...
>
> ...will just take the week off?

you rotten miserable cock sucker

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 by: texas gate - Fri, 19 May 2023 00:20 UTC

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:06:46 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Because what the other teams have is working for the most part.
>
> An in season "biggest upgrade" is almost always a desperate roll of the
> dice.

fuck you

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if i've checked the calendar correctly, there is a blank week after italy in september to slot it in there, but would mean just 1 week after that to then get to singapore.

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 by: Alan - Fri, 19 May 2023 16:57 UTC

On 2023-05-19 05:57, Mr Gobrien wrote:
> if i've checked the calendar correctly, there is a blank week after
> italy in september to slot it in there, but would mean just 1 week
> after that to then get to singapore.

Remember that a blank week on the F1 calendar doesn't necessarily mean a
free weekend at the Imola track. Facilities like that are usually pretty
busy...

'From 8th to 10th September takes place the 45th edition of the Imola
Mostra Scambio organized by Crame (Club Romagnolo Auto e Moto d’Epoca),
one of the most important European events for collectors of vintage
cars, motorcycles and bicycles. Over 2,000 exhibitors and more than ten
thousand fans come to Imola during the three days of the event.'

<https://www.autodromoimola.it/imola-mostra-scambio-crame/?lang=en>

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> Remember that a blank week on the F1 calendar doesn't necessarily mean a
> free weekend at the Imola track. Facilities like that are usually pretty
> busy...
>

that is true i suppose - i wasn't thinking about that - i imagine they'd move a domestic event if offered the gp as a replacement though.

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 by: a425couple - Fri, 19 May 2023 18:11 UTC

On 5/19/23 10:56, Mr Gobrien wrote:
>
>> Remember that a blank week on the F1 calendar doesn't necessarily mean a
>> free weekend at the Imola track. Facilities like that are usually pretty
>> busy...
>>
>
> that is true i suppose - i wasn't thinking about that - i imagine they'd move a domestic event if offered the gp as a replacement though.

A couple of years ago our club felt we had a firm contract with a
local track, and we had paid for it. Then months later they told
us that we were cancelled and a big national series was in.
We said you can not do that. They said yes we can. They claimed
the contact said they could. We could not see any way the contract
allowed it, they said it did.
Considered suing,,, but then had to think better of it.
They did try to give us good dates the next year.....

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 by: a425couple - Fri, 19 May 2023 22:56 UTC

On 5/19/23 11:11, a425couple wrote:
> On 5/19/23 10:56, Mr Gobrien wrote:
>>
>>> Remember that a blank week on the F1 calendar doesn't necessarily mean a
>>> free weekend at the Imola track. Facilities like that are usually pretty
>>> busy...
>>>
>>
>> that is true i suppose - i wasn't thinking about that - i imagine
>> they'd move a domestic event if offered the gp as a replacement though.
>
> A couple of years ago our club felt we had a firm contract with a
> local track, and we had paid for it.  Then months later they told
> us that we were cancelled and a big national series was in.
> We said you can not do that.  They said yes we can.  They claimed
> the contact said they could.  We could not see any way the contract
> allowed it, they said it did.
> Considered suing,,, but then had to think better of it.
> They did try to give us good dates the next year.....

But anyway, more to the point of F1 in 2023 and Imola,
I am fairly sure they will just skip it, 22 is plenty
of races and trying to shoehorn in a forced change
would be difficult.

>

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 by: Alan - Fri, 19 May 2023 23:38 UTC

On 2023-05-19 10:56, Mr Gobrien wrote:
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>> Remember that a blank week on the F1 calendar doesn't necessarily mean a
>> free weekend at the Imola track. Facilities like that are usually pretty
>> busy...
>>
>
> that is true i suppose - i wasn't thinking about that - i imagine they'd move a domestic event if offered the gp as a replacement though.

And break commitments made in good faith?

I surely hope not.

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 by: texas gate - Sat, 20 May 2023 01:30 UTC

On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 5:38:58 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> And break commitments made in good faith?
>
> I surely hope not.

this from a fucking asshole

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On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 5:38:58 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> And break commitments made in good faith?
>
> I surely hope not.

this from a deluxe fucking asshole

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 by: texas gate - Sat, 20 May 2023 03:10 UTC

On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 5:38:58 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> And break commitments made in good faith?
>
> I surely hope not.

ya because you are so righteous
you hypocritical cunt

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 by: texas gate - Sat, 20 May 2023 03:22 UTC

On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 5:38:58 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> I surely hope not.

it would cause grief in your shithole existence?

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 by: geoff - Sun, 21 May 2023 03:10 UTC

On 20/05/2023 4:57 am, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-05-19 05:57, Mr Gobrien wrote:
>> if i've checked the calendar correctly, there is a blank week after
>> italy in september to slot it in there, but would mean just 1 week
>> after that to then get to singapore.
>
>
> Remember that a blank week on the F1 calendar doesn't necessarily mean a
> free weekend at the Imola track. Facilities like that are usually pretty
> busy...
>
> 'From 8th to 10th September takes place the 45th edition of the Imola
> Mostra Scambio organized by Crame (Club Romagnolo Auto e Moto d’Epoca),
> one of the most important European events for collectors of vintage
> cars, motorcycles and bicycles. Over 2,000 exhibitors and more than ten
> thousand fans come to Imola during the three days of the event.'
>
> <https://www.autodromoimola.it/imola-mostra-scambio-crame/?lang=en>

I'm pretty certain that the amount of forward-planning,
transport/travel, logistics, etc would preclude such simply popping in a
spare weekend.

geoff


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