Is it time to revisit track limits in regards to qualifying for the
Qatar race? Not only were several track limit violations filed but the
officials were very slow in assessing them. Sadly it would impact on
the final grid.

Lando Norris did receive somewhat timely notice that he had been dropped
from 2nd to 10th on the grid, certainly in time for George Russell to be
interviewed as the P2 driver. Oscar Piastri was interviewed as the P3
driver and notified after the fact, that he had been dropped to P6 on
the grid.

In my opinion, if you're going to enforce track limits, you need to do
so in a timely manner.

On 10/7/23 05:07, Carl Keehn wrote:
> Is it time to revisit track limits in regards to qualifying for the
> Qatar race?
>

Yes.

> In my opinion, if you're going to enforce track limits, you need to do
> so in a timely manner.

Yes, at a minimum.

I understand driver safety, and I understand track limits
being needed.
But this is not working well.
It became painful.

It became unpleasant to watch.

On 2023-10-07 4:01 PM, a425couple wrote:
> On 10/7/23 05:07, Carl Keehn wrote:
>> Is it time to revisit track limits in regards to qualifying for the
>> Qatar race?
>
> Yes.
>
>> In my opinion, if you're going to enforce track limits, you need to do
>> so in a timely manner.
>
> Yes, at a minimum.
>
> I understand driver safety, and I understand track limits
> being needed.
> But this is not working well.
> It became painful.
>
> It became unpleasant to watch.
>
>
>
Perhaps a set of stewards dedicated solely to watching track limits?

I tend to lean to replacing the curbs with deep, soft gravel outside the
paved track, so that any excursion results in -- at best -- considerable
loss of time, or the offending car stuck and unable to continue. There
may be, and probably are, good reasons for not going this route, but it
would certainly define track limits in an unambiguous way that would not
require steward review.

How did the track builders screw up so bad? They built curbs that not only don't fit the natural racing line but also destroy tires!

On 8/10/2023 3:05 pm, XYXPDQ wrote:
> How did the track builders screw up so bad? They built curbs that not only don't fit the natural racing line but also destroy tires!
>

The track was designed for MotoGP bikes first and F1 cars second. They have different requirements.
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On 2023-10-07 19:05, XYXPDQ wrote:
> How did the track builders screw up so bad? They built curbs that
> not only don't fit the natural racing line but also destroy tires!
>

What do you mean by "don't fit the natural racing line"?

On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 9:45:05 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> What do you mean by "don't fit the natural racing line"?

you fucking idiot

On 10/7/23 13:11, Darryl Johnson wrote:
> On 2023-10-07 4:01 PM, a425couple wrote:
>> On 10/7/23 05:07, Carl Keehn wrote:
>>> Is it time to revisit track limits in regards to qualifying for the
>>> Qatar race?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> In my opinion, if you're going to enforce track limits, you need to
>>> do so in a timely manner.
>>
>> Yes, at a minimum.
>>
>> I understand driver safety, and I understand track limits
>> being needed.
>> But this is not working well.
>> It became painful.
>>
>> It became unpleasant to watch.
>>
> Perhaps a set of stewards dedicated solely to watching track limits?
>
> I tend to lean to replacing the curbs with deep, soft gravel outside the

Ahhh.......

I am Soooo old, or I've been racing so long,
I remember racing at Pacific Raceways and
Riverside when they dug a trench and half buried
a tire on the inside of turns to mark, and
enforce, 'track limits'.

https://www.autoweek.com/news/a2049131/where-are-they-now-snapshot-speed-lives-fates-40-years-after-riversides-1968-can-am/

http://www.radiolemans.co/2021/05/12/hrn-can-am-special/

> paved track, so that any excursion results in -- at best -- considerable
> loss of time,  or the offending car stuck and unable to continue. There
> may be, and probably are, good reasons for not going this route, but it
> would certainly define track limits in an unambiguous way that would not
> require steward review.

I agree mostly with your final thought,
a good solution (wither various paints with various traction
abilities or, sand, or gravel) would be 'naturally' self
enforcing an not connected to steward review.

After all, this is auto racing and not being scored by
Gymnastic judges & scorekeepers.