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by: Mark Jackson - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:51 UTC

On 11/27/2023 5:22 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
> *The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.*

Many news servers are currently blocking posts from Google Groups due to
spamming through that portal. Same thing happened to your earlier
"Rookie of the Year?" post.

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by: leonard hofstatder - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:47 UTC

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by: Alan - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:49 UTC

On 2023-11-27 15:47, leonard hofstatder wrote:
> Lewis - to be 3rd in points in that shit car is testament to the GOAT.

Still don't think he's automatically the GOAT (because most of his wins
were in obviously dominant cars in HIS years)...

....but credit where it's due:

He got absolutely everything that could be got out of that Mercedes this
year.

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by: geoff - Tue, 28 Nov 2023 02:53 UTC

On 28/11/2023 12:49 pm, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-11-27 15:47, leonard hofstatder wrote:
>> Lewis - to be 3rd in points in that shit car is testament to the GOAT.
>
> Still don't think he's automatically the GOAT (because most of his wins
> were in obviously dominant cars in HIS years)...
>
> ...but credit where it's due:
>
> He got absolutely everything that could be got out of that Mercedes this
> year.

;- O

geoff

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by: Martin Harran - Tue, 28 Nov 2023 08:55 UTC

On Mon, 27 Nov 2023 15:49:52 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>On 2023-11-27 15:47, leonard hofstatder wrote:
>> Lewis - to be 3rd in points in that shit car is testament to the GOAT.
>
>Still don't think he's automatically the GOAT (because most of his wins
>were in obviously dominant cars in HIS years)...
>
>...but credit where it's due:
>
>He got absolutely everything that could be got out of that Mercedes this
>year.

The fact that he gave Perez such a close run for second WDC in what
was a vastly superior car shows that it is both driver and car that
matters.

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by: Alan - Tue, 28 Nov 2023 20:57 UTC

On 2023-11-28 00:55, Martin Harran wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2023 15:49:52 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-11-27 15:47, leonard hofstatder wrote:
>>> Lewis - to be 3rd in points in that shit car is testament to the GOAT.
>>
>> Still don't think he's automatically the GOAT (because most of his wins
>> were in obviously dominant cars in HIS years)...
>>
>> ...but credit where it's due:
>>
>> He got absolutely everything that could be got out of that Mercedes this
>> year.
>
> The fact that he gave Perez such a close run for second WDC in what
> was a vastly superior car shows that it is both driver and car that
> matters.

I've never said different.

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by: texas gate - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 03:39 UTC

On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 1:57:53 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-11-28 00:55, Martin Harran wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Nov 2023 15:49:52 -0800, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2023-11-27 15:47, leonard hofstatder wrote:
> >>> Lewis - to be 3rd in points in that shit car is testament to the GOAT..
> >>
> >> Still don't think he's automatically the GOAT (because most of his wins
> >> were in obviously dominant cars in HIS years)...
> >>
> >> ...but credit where it's due:
> >>
> >> He got absolutely everything that could be got out of that Mercedes this
> >> year.
> >
> > The fact that he gave Perez such a close run for second WDC in what
> > was a vastly superior car shows that it is both driver and car that
> > matters.
> I've never said different.

hey harry martin
slow day in loserville?
no-life alan will take that bait.

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by: Alan LeHun - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 05:21 UTC

In article <ksmu8tFuag1U2@mid.individual.net>, no_email@invalid.invalid
says...
> He is not always a great sportsman
>

A great sportsman he most certainly isn't, but neither were very many
other champions. At least, not until they became ex-champions.

--
Alan LeHun

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by: Alan - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 07:59 UTC

On 2023-11-28 21:21, Alan LeHun wrote:
> In article <ksmu8tFuag1U2@mid.individual.net>, no_email@invalid.invalid
> says...
>> He is not always a great sportsman
>>
>
> A great sportsman he most certainly isn't, but neither were very many
> other champions. At least, not until they became ex-champions.
>

Exactly.

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by: Mark - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 13:50 UTC

Sir Tim <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> Has to be Max surely?
>
> He is not always a great sportsman but he is a great driver at the peak of
> his powers.

It's like most weeks at the moment.

("not often"? ;-) )

> Alonso and Albon have also had good seasons.

Alonso has been very impressive this year. Back to using his experience
to the best effect. Not bad for an old man. ;-)

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by: geoff - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 20:03 UTC

On 29/11/2023 8:59 pm, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-11-28 21:21, Alan LeHun wrote:
>> In article <ksmu8tFuag1U2@mid.individual.net>, no_email@invalid.invalid
>> says...
>>> He is not always a great sportsman
>>>
>>
>> A great sportsman he most certainly isn't, but neither were very many
>> other champions. At least, not until they became ex-champions.
>>
>
> Exactly.

I can see quite a few clearly 'good sportsmen' in the F1 drivers right now.

geoff

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by: Alan - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 21:54 UTC

On 2023-11-29 12:03, geoff wrote:
> On 29/11/2023 8:59 pm, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-11-28 21:21, Alan LeHun wrote:
>>> In article <ksmu8tFuag1U2@mid.individual.net>, no_email@invalid.invalid
>>> says...
>>>> He is not always a great sportsman
>>>>
>>>
>>> A great sportsman he most certainly isn't, but neither were very many
>>> other champions. At least, not until they became ex-champions.
>>>
>>
>> Exactly.
>
> I can see quite a few clearly 'good sportsmen' in the F1 drivers right now.

Did you bother reading what I was agreeing with?

"A great sportsman he [Verstappen] most certainly isn't"

Agreed.

"but neither were very many other champions. At least, not until they
became ex-champions."

Agreed.

Nothing in there says that there are NO good sportsmen in F1.

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by: texas gate - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 00:35 UTC

On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 2:54:46 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Did you bother reading what I was agreeing with?
>
> "A great sportsman he [Verstappen] most certainly isn't"
>
> Agreed.
> "but neither were very many other champions. At least, not until they
> became ex-champions."
> Agreed.
>
> Nothing in there says that there are NO good sportsmen in F1.

fuck you
you fucking cunt

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by: geoff - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 00:50 UTC

On 30/11/2023 10:54 am, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-11-29 12:03, geoff wrote:
>> On 29/11/2023 8:59 pm, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-28 21:21, Alan LeHun wrote:
>>>> In article <ksmu8tFuag1U2@mid.individual.net>, no_email@invalid.invalid
>>>> says...
>>>>> He is not always a great sportsman
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A great sportsman he most certainly isn't, but neither were very many
>>>> other champions. At least, not until they became ex-champions.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Exactly.
>>
>> I can see quite a few clearly 'good sportsmen' in the F1 drivers right
>> now.
>
> Did you bother reading what I was agreeing with?
>
> "A great sportsman he [Verstappen] most certainly isn't"
>
> Agreed.
>
> "but neither were very many other champions. At least, not until they
> became ex-champions."
>
> Agreed.
>
> Nothing in there says that there are NO good sportsmen in F1.

Well all champions are ex-champions apart from the current, and some
have been good sportsmen while they were champions. Which means 2 right now.

Depends on how you define good sportsmen I guess. And your definition
may be different to others.

geoff

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Subject	Author
Re: Driver of the Year?	Mark Jackson
Re: Driver of the Year?	leonard hofstatder
Re: Driver of the Year?	Alan
Re: Driver of the Year?	geoff
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