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* Javier Báez is jackass stupid tradePopping Mad
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|`* Re: Javier B?ez is jackass stupid trade*ernie
| `* Re: Javier B?ez is jackass stupid tradeRuben Safir
|  `* Re: Javier B?ez is jackass stupid tradeHass
|   `- Re: Javier B?ez is jackass stupid trade*ernie
`* Re: Javier Báez is jackass stupid tradeMaestro
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From: rain...@colition.gov (Popping Mad)
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 by: Popping Mad - Sat, 31 Jul 2021 14:33 UTC

Javier Báez just sucks. I am sorry, I don't give a damn how much power
he has in Wrigley Field or how great of a fielder he is when he has an
OBP of 290. At 290 he should be in AAA.

Meanwhile, they have a defensive wizzard in Luis Guillorme, who is
probably the best SS on the team who has an OBP over 400!! and an OPS+
over the last two year of 122 as opposed to 88 by Baez. give me a break.

And then there is McNeil - is a just a better player - since 2018 mcNeil
has been a 5.0 oWAR/650 ABs and a nice 0.9dWAR while covering much of
that time in the OF. Baez has been at 4.3oWAR/650 ABs and then there is
the money and the loss of their first round draft pick. So WTF are they
doing?

Omar Minayah loves this deal, which is ALL you need to know to stay away
from it.

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 by: Fan - Sat, 31 Jul 2021 20:42 UTC

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, Popping Mad wrote:
> Javier Báez just sucks. I am sorry, I don't give a damn how much power
> he has in Wrigley Field or how great of a fielder he is when he has an
> OBP of 290. At 290 he should be in AAA.
>
> Meanwhile, they have a defensive wizzard in Luis Guillorme, who is
> probably the best SS on the team who has an OBP over 400!! and an OPS+
> over the last two year of 122 as opposed to 88 by Baez. give me a break.
>
> And then there is McNeil - is a just a better player - since 2018 mcNeil
> has been a 5.0 oWAR/650 ABs and a nice 0.9dWAR while covering much of
> that time in the OF. Baez has been at 4.3oWAR/650 ABs and then there is
> the money and the loss of their first round draft pick. So WTF are they
> doing?
>
> Omar Minayah loves this deal, which is ALL you need to know to stay away
> from it.

They just threw Jeff McNeil under the bus

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 by: *ernie - Sat, 7 Aug 2021 15:54 UTC

On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:42:22 -0700 (PDT), Fan <jthomq@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, Popping Mad wrote:
>> Javier Báez just sucks. I am sorry, I don't give a damn how much power
>> he has in Wrigley Field or how great of a fielder he is when he has an
>> OBP of 290. At 290 he should be in AAA.
>>
>> Meanwhile, they have a defensive wizzard in Luis Guillorme, who is
>> probably the best SS on the team who has an OBP over 400!! and an OPS+
>> over the last two year of 122 as opposed to 88 by Baez. give me a break.
>>
>> And then there is McNeil - is a just a better player - since 2018 mcNeil
>> has been a 5.0 oWAR/650 ABs and a nice 0.9dWAR while covering much of
>> that time in the OF. Baez has been at 4.3oWAR/650 ABs and then there is
>> the money and the loss of their first round draft pick. So WTF are they
>> doing?
>>
>> Omar Minayah loves this deal, which is ALL you need to know to stay away
>> from it.
>
>
>
>
>They just threw Jeff McNeil under the bus

I just got home from vacation and read about this trade. That's the
first thing I thought; what about McNeil? If the Mets let him go,
they'll regret it like they did letting Murphy go. If they do let Baez
walk at year's end, they gave up a lot for a short term replacement
for a guy who hasn't done shit this year. Maybe one of them can play
3rd?

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 by: Ruben Safir - Sun, 8 Aug 2021 01:58 UTC

*ernie <alreadydeleted9@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:42:22 -0700 (PDT), Fan <jthomq@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, Popping Mad wrote:
>>> Javier B?ez just sucks. I am sorry, I don't give a damn how much power
>>> he has in Wrigley Field or how great of a fielder he is when he has an
>>> OBP of 290. At 290 he should be in AAA.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, they have a defensive wizzard in Luis Guillorme, who is
>>> probably the best SS on the team who has an OBP over 400!! and an OPS+
>>> over the last two year of 122 as opposed to 88 by Baez. give me a break.
>>>
>>> And then there is McNeil - is a just a better player - since 2018 mcNeil
>>> has been a 5.0 oWAR/650 ABs and a nice 0.9dWAR while covering much of
>>> that time in the OF. Baez has been at 4.3oWAR/650 ABs and then there is
>>> the money and the loss of their first round draft pick. So WTF are they
>>> doing?
>>>
>>> Omar Minayah loves this deal, which is ALL you need to know to stay away
>>> from it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>They just threw Jeff McNeil under the bus
>
>
> I just got home from vacation and read about this trade. That's the
> first thing I thought; what about McNeil? If the Mets let him go,
> they'll regret it like they did letting Murphy go. If they do let Baez
> walk at year's end, they gave up a lot for a short term replacement
> for a guy who hasn't done shit this year. Maybe one of them can play
> 3rd?

They do not need a player with an OBP below 300. That is not a major
leaguer.

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On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 8:58:54 PM UTC-5, Ruben Safir wrote:
> *ernie <already...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:42:22 -0700 (PDT), Fan <jth...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, Popping Mad wrote:
> >>> Javier B?ez just sucks. I am sorry, I don't give a damn how much power
> >>> he has in Wrigley Field or how great of a fielder he is when he has an
> >>> OBP of 290. At 290 he should be in AAA.
> >>>
> >>> Meanwhile, they have a defensive wizzard in Luis Guillorme, who is
> >>> probably the best SS on the team who has an OBP over 400!! and an OPS+
> >>> over the last two year of 122 as opposed to 88 by Baez. give me a break.
> >>>
> >>> And then there is McNeil - is a just a better player - since 2018 mcNeil
> >>> has been a 5.0 oWAR/650 ABs and a nice 0.9dWAR while covering much of
> >>> that time in the OF. Baez has been at 4.3oWAR/650 ABs and then there is
> >>> the money and the loss of their first round draft pick. So WTF are they
> >>> doing?
> >>>
> >>> Omar Minayah loves this deal, which is ALL you need to know to stay away
> >>> from it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>They just threw Jeff McNeil under the bus
> >
> >
> > I just got home from vacation and read about this trade. That's the
> > first thing I thought; what about McNeil? If the Mets let him go,
> > they'll regret it like they did letting Murphy go. If they do let Baez
> > walk at year's end, they gave up a lot for a short term replacement
> > for a guy who hasn't done shit this year. Maybe one of them can play
> > 3rd?
> They do not need a player with an OBP below 300. That is not a major
> leaguer.

Welp, we probably just saw Baez's last AB as Met, so there's that...

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On 8/8/2021 2:40 PM, Hass wrote:
> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 8:58:54 PM UTC-5, Ruben Safir wrote:
>> *ernie <already...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:42:22 -0700 (PDT), Fan <jth...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, Popping Mad wrote:
>>>>> Javier B?ez just sucks. I am sorry, I don't give a damn how much power
>>>>> he has in Wrigley Field or how great of a fielder he is when he has an
>>>>> OBP of 290. At 290 he should be in AAA.
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, they have a defensive wizzard in Luis Guillorme, who is
>>>>> probably the best SS on the team who has an OBP over 400!! and an OPS+
>>>>> over the last two year of 122 as opposed to 88 by Baez. give me a break.
>>>>>
>>>>> And then there is McNeil - is a just a better player - since 2018 mcNeil
>>>>> has been a 5.0 oWAR/650 ABs and a nice 0.9dWAR while covering much of
>>>>> that time in the OF. Baez has been at 4.3oWAR/650 ABs and then there is
>>>>> the money and the loss of their first round draft pick. So WTF are they
>>>>> doing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Omar Minayah loves this deal, which is ALL you need to know to stay away
>>>>> from it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They just threw Jeff McNeil under the bus
>>>
>>>
>>> I just got home from vacation and read about this trade. That's the
>>> first thing I thought; what about McNeil? If the Mets let him go,
>>> they'll regret it like they did letting Murphy go. If they do let Baez
>>> walk at year's end, they gave up a lot for a short term replacement
>>> for a guy who hasn't done shit this year. Maybe one of them can play
>>> 3rd?
>> They do not need a player with an OBP below 300. That is not a major
>> leaguer.
>
> Welp, we probably just saw Baez's last AB as Met, so there's that...
>

I take no comfort in the Mets report that he may "Only miss a game or
two". I cannot remember any player in recent Met history that came back
from an injury when the Mets said he would. This may not be the end of
Baez, but I don't doubt that this will take awhile.

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 by: Maestro - Thu, 12 Aug 2021 10:58 UTC

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 7:34:26 AM UTC-7, Popping Mad wrote:
> Javier Báez just sucks. I am sorry, I don't give a damn how much power
> he has in Wrigley Field or how great of a fielder he is when he has an
> OBP of 290. At 290 he should be in AAA.
>
> Meanwhile, they have a defensive wizzard in Luis Guillorme, who is
> probably the best SS on the team who has an OBP over 400!! and an OPS+
> over the last two year of 122 as opposed to 88 by Baez. give me a break.
>
> And then there is McNeil - is a just a better player - since 2018 mcNeil
> has been a 5.0 oWAR/650 ABs and a nice 0.9dWAR while covering much of
> that time in the OF. Baez has been at 4.3oWAR/650 ABs and then there is
> the money and the loss of their first round draft pick. So WTF are they
> doing?
>
> Omar Minayah loves this deal, which is ALL you need to know to stay away
> from it.

While Guillorme is a good defensive SS, he's not in Baez's class defensively.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdlF8qgegXg

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Subject: Re:_Javier_Báez_is_jackass_stupid_trade
From: bhasselb...@gmail.com (Hass)
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 by: Hass - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 19:00 UTC

On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 5:58:58 AM UTC-5, Maestro wrote:
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 7:34:26 AM UTC-7, Popping Mad wrote:
> > Javier Báez just sucks. I am sorry, I don't give a damn how much power
> > he has in Wrigley Field or how great of a fielder he is when he has an
> > OBP of 290. At 290 he should be in AAA.
> >
> > Meanwhile, they have a defensive wizzard in Luis Guillorme, who is
> > probably the best SS on the team who has an OBP over 400!! and an OPS+
> > over the last two year of 122 as opposed to 88 by Baez. give me a break..
> >
> > And then there is McNeil - is a just a better player - since 2018 mcNeil
> > has been a 5.0 oWAR/650 ABs and a nice 0.9dWAR while covering much of
> > that time in the OF. Baez has been at 4.3oWAR/650 ABs and then there is
> > the money and the loss of their first round draft pick. So WTF are they
> > doing?
> >
> > Omar Minayah loves this deal, which is ALL you need to know to stay away
> > from it.
> While Guillorme is a good defensive SS, he's not in Baez's class defensively.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdlF8qgegXg

Since the trade...Baez at 854 OPS, 132 OPS+

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