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by: Chris K-Man (Zickcer - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 21:04 UTC

HMS driver in front, debris called!

Talladega just now.

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by: a425couple - Mon, 2 Oct 2023 03:12 UTC

On 10/1/23 14:04, Chris K-Man (Zickcermacity) wrote:
> HMS driver in front, debris called!
>
> Talladega just now.

Well,,, we did all see the debris.
Would you like to hit it at 196 MPH?
I would not.

And just how do you think that caution helped HMS?

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by: Chris K-Man (Zickcer - Mon, 2 Oct 2023 11:08 UTC

On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 11:12:10 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
> On 10/1/23 14:04, Chris K-Man (Zickcermacity) wrote:
> > HMS driver in front, debris called!
> >
> > Talladega just now.
> Well,,, we did all see the debris.
> Would you like to hit it at 196 MPH?
> I would not.
>
> And just how do you think that caution helped HMS?
________

Simple: the caution is called when a HMS driver is the race, or, when at least two
or three HMS drivers are at or above fifth position in the race.

When that caution was called late yesterday at Talladega, the #48 car(Bowman)
was leading, with other HMS teammates in the top ten.

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by: a425couple - Mon, 2 Oct 2023 18:20 UTC

On 10/2/23 04:08, Chris K-Man (Zickcermacity) wrote:
> On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 11:12:10 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
>> On 10/1/23 14:04, Chris K-Man (Zickcermacity) wrote:
>>> HMS driver in front, debris called!
>>>
>>> Talladega just now.
>> Well,,, we did all see the debris.
>> Would you like to hit it at 196 MPH?
>> I would not.
>>
>> And just how do you think that caution helped HMS?
> ________
>
> Simple: the caution is called when a HMS driver is the race, or, when at least two
> or three HMS drivers are at or above fifth position in the race.
>
> When that caution was called late yesterday at Talladega, the #48 car(Bowman)
> was leading, with other HMS teammates in the top ten.

Again, how do you think that caution helped HMS?

If I, or any other driver I know, am leading,
the last thing I want is a caution. Cautions
bunch the field up, and then restarts are a
dangerous time. Restarts tend to disrupt the
current leaders and the entire field.

That restart did not help HMS in any way.

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by: Chris K-Man (Zickcer - Mon, 2 Oct 2023 23:38 UTC

On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 2:20:05 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
> On 10/2/23 04:08, Chris K-Man (Zickcermacity) wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 11:12:10 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
> >> On 10/1/23 14:04, Chris K-Man (Zickcermacity) wrote:
> >>> HMS driver in front, debris called!
> >>>
> >>> Talladega just now.
> >> Well,,, we did all see the debris.
> >> Would you like to hit it at 196 MPH?
> >> I would not.
> >>
> >> And just how do you think that caution helped HMS?
> > ________
> >
> > Simple: the caution is called when a HMS driver is the race, or, when at least two
> > or three HMS drivers are at or above fifth position in the race.
> >
> > When that caution was called late yesterday at Talladega, the #48 car(Bowman)
> > was leading, with other HMS teammates in the top ten.
> Again, how do you think that caution helped HMS?
>
> If I, or any other driver I know, am leading,
> the last thing I want is a caution. Cautions
> bunch the field up, and then restarts are a
> dangerous time. Restarts tend to disrupt the
> current leaders and the entire field.
>
> That restart did not help HMS in any way.
_________

A caution = fewer laps spent racing. And I read from others where this
was pointed out on numerous occasions in the 2000s and 2010s, whenever
Johnson or Gordon was leading.

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by: a425couple - Wed, 4 Oct 2023 23:40 UTC

On 10/2/23 16:38, Chris K-Man (Zickcermacity) wrote:
> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 2:20:05 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
>> On 10/2/23 04:08, Chris K-Man (Zickcermacity) wrote:
>>> On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 11:12:10 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/23 14:04, Chris K-Man (Zickcermacity) wrote:
>>>>> HMS driver in front, debris called!
>>>>>
>>>>> Talladega just now.
>>>> Well,,, we did all see the debris.
>>>> Would you like to hit it at 196 MPH?
>>>> I would not.
>>>>
>>>> And just how do you think that caution helped HMS?
>>> ________
>>>
>>> Simple: the caution is called when a HMS driver is the race, or, when at least two
>>> or three HMS drivers are at or above fifth position in the race.
>>>
>>> When that caution was called late yesterday at Talladega, the #48 car(Bowman)
>>> was leading, with other HMS teammates in the top ten.
>> Again, how do you think that caution helped HMS?
>>
>> If I, or any other driver I know, am leading,
>> the last thing I want is a caution. Cautions
>> bunch the field up, and then restarts are a
>> dangerous time. Restarts tend to disrupt the
>> current leaders and the entire field.
>>
>> That restart did not help HMS in any way.
> _________
>
> A caution = fewer laps spent racing. And I read from others where this
> was pointed out on numerous occasions in the 2000s and 2010s, whenever
> Johnson or Gordon was leading.

Again, my experience in racing from the 1960's to now,
is a leader will almost always not be happy about
a late race caution and full course yellow causing
a restart.

Use your logic.

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by: Chris K-Man (Zickcer - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 00:29 UTC

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 7:40:12 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
> On 10/2/23 16:38, Chris K-Man (Zickcermacity) wrote:
> > On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 2:20:05 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
> >> On 10/2/23 04:08, Chris K-Man (Zickcermacity) wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 11:12:10 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
> >>>> On 10/1/23 14:04, Chris K-Man (Zickcermacity) wrote:
> >>>>> HMS driver in front, debris called!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Talladega just now.
> >>>> Well,,, we did all see the debris.
> >>>> Would you like to hit it at 196 MPH?
> >>>> I would not.
> >>>>
> >>>> And just how do you think that caution helped HMS?
> >>> ________
> >>>
> >>> Simple: the caution is called when a HMS driver is the race, or, when at least two
> >>> or three HMS drivers are at or above fifth position in the race.
> >>>
> >>> When that caution was called late yesterday at Talladega, the #48 car(Bowman)
> >>> was leading, with other HMS teammates in the top ten.
> >> Again, how do you think that caution helped HMS?
> >>
> >> If I, or any other driver I know, am leading,
> >> the last thing I want is a caution. Cautions
> >> bunch the field up, and then restarts are a
> >> dangerous time. Restarts tend to disrupt the
> >> current leaders and the entire field.
> >>
> >> That restart did not help HMS in any way.
> > _________
> >
> > A caution = fewer laps spent racing. And I read from others where this
> > was pointed out on numerous occasions in the 2000s and 2010s, whenever
> > Johnson or Gordon was leading.
> Again, my experience in racing from the 1960's to now,
> is a leader will almost always not be happy about
> a late race caution and full course yellow causing
> a restart.
>
> Use your logic.
______

My own logic, plus my own eyes, tells me that in *most* cases,
once a Hendrick cup car is in front, it stays in front. Even if the
kreldahn track disintegrates in front of the field, it won't stop a
HMS driver.

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