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 by: Tim Wise - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 11:39 UTC

Good evening all, it has been a while since I posted here.
2007 in fact.
I was hoping to get some feed back on this new boat storage policy at the club
were I'm currently a life member. Just wondered if any other club out there has anything remotely similar, I would hope not.
Possible the end of the line for me after nearly 50 years involvement in the club.

The policy is displayed below.

Cheers.

TW

Private Equipment Storage Policy
This policy is to provide guidance on storage of private boats and associated equipment at Ballarat City Rowing Club.
Provision for Private Boat Storage
1. Boat racks will always be prioritised to club-owned boats followed by boats provided to the Club by private owners for club racing and training purposes. Privately owned boats which are not provided to the Club and its members for club racing or training purposes are least prioritised.
2. Storage of private boats and other equipment at Ballarat City Rowing Club is supported only when there is available space once all club-owned boats and equipment have been prioritised and suitably allocated.
3. Boat rack allocations are reviewed annually and is approved by the Committee depending on the likely usage of the boat.
4. Members wishing to store privately owned boats and equipment must be full financial members of the Club.
5. The Committee reserves the right to make exceptions for any current circumstances including the right to withdraw or reject the storage of private boats at any time.
6. Should private boat and equipment storage be withdrawn for any reason, the Committee will request the boat and equipment be removed with one month’s notice.
7. It is the Committee’s preference that only single sculls are stored at Ballarat City Rowing Club providing the usage, storage, and all other requirements as per this Policy are met and maintained.
Fees and Insurance
1. There is an annual fee per seat for storage of private boats. This fee covers associated items such as riggers, oars, trestles, and boat covers.
2. The boat storage fee may be reviewed annually by the Committee and members will be notified in writing of any changes in fees.
2. Boat storage fees are payable by 1 September of each year and must be paid within 14 days from date of invoice. The Committee will withdraw approval for private boat storage if fees have not been paid by the due date.
Ballarat City Rowing Club
Boatshed 30, Wendouree Parade, Lake Wendouree VIC 3350 www.ballaratcityrowing.com
3. There is no part year storage fee. The full annual fee is payable when boats are stored for a part year.
4. Fee payments are non-refundable and non-transferrable.
5. Private boats and equipment are stored at the members’ own risk. Ballarat City Rowing Club and its members are not liable for any damage or loss of boats or equipment stored at the Club regardless of the circumstances.
6. Private boats and equipment are transported at the members’ own risk. Ballarat City Rowing Club and its members are not liable for any damage or loss of boats or equipment transported by the Club regardless of the circumstances.
7. Members should ensure that their boats and equipment are adequately insured. Private boat insurance may be organised through the Ballarat City Rowing Club; however, members remain responsible for ensuring that the insurance provided is adequate. Members wishing to use the Club’s own insurance should contact the Treasurer or Secretary.
8. Boat storage fees may be waived at the discretion of the Committee.
Storage Conditions
1. The Committee, or Boat Captain as the Committee’s delegate, will determine where and how each private boat or equipment items will be stored at Ballarat City Rowing Club.
2. The Committee, or Boat Captain as the Committee’s delegate, reserves the right to change the position and how private boats and equipment are stored to maintain maximum storage space and safety of all members, boats, and other equipment.
4. There may be circumstances under which members are requested to remove private boats and equipment for a period, for example, for boatshed renovations. The Committee will give reasonable notice to members in these circumstances.
5. Private boat owners are encouraged to ensure all boats and equipment are clearly labelled both “Private” and with identifying details such as owner’s name.
6. Storing boats and associated equipment at Ballarat City Rowing Club constitutes acceptance of this Boat Storage Policy.
Application Process
1. Enquiries regarding available space should be made to the Ballarat City Rowing Club Captain at XXXXXXX@ballaratcityrowing.com.
Ballarat City Rowing Club
Boatshed 30, Wendouree Parade, Lake Wendouree VIC 3350 www.ballaratcityrowing.com
2. Formal requests for storage space should be made to Committee using the Private Equipment Storage Application Form.
3. The Committee will consider the application at the next committee meeting and then inform the member of the outcome. If the request is rejected, reasons for this will be provided.
4. If there is no space available, members applying for space will be placed on a waiting list in the order in which applications are received.
5. The first storage fee is payable prior to the boat being stored at the club and within 1 month of committee approval of storage space.
Procedure for making insurance claims for private equipment insured with the Club
The owner is responsible for
• ensuring an incident report has been lodged with the Club
• organising a quote and payment for repair, and
• providing photos of the relevant damage before forwarding to the Secretary and
Treasurer for the insurance claim.
Policy accepted 12 July 2022

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 by: Brian Chapman - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 15:31 UTC

On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 at 12:39:43 UTC+1, tim.j...@gmail.com wrote:
> Good evening all, it has been a while since I posted here.
> 2007 in fact.
> I was hoping to get some feed back on this new boat storage policy at the club
> were I'm currently a life member. Just wondered if any other club out there has anything remotely similar, I would hope not.
> Possible the end of the line for me after nearly 50 years involvement in the club.
>
> The policy is displayed below.
>
> Cheers.
>
> TW
>
>
>
> Private Equipment Storage Policy
> This policy is to provide guidance on storage of private boats and associated equipment at Ballarat City Rowing Club.
> Provision for Private Boat Storage
> 1. Boat racks will always be prioritised to club-owned boats followed by boats provided to the Club by private owners for club racing and training purposes. Privately owned boats which are not provided to the Club and its members for club racing or training purposes are least prioritised.
> 2. Storage of private boats and other equipment at Ballarat City Rowing Club is supported only when there is available space once all club-owned boats and equipment have been prioritised and suitably allocated.
> 3. Boat rack allocations are reviewed annually and is approved by the Committee depending on the likely usage of the boat.
> 4. Members wishing to store privately owned boats and equipment must be full financial members of the Club.
> 5. The Committee reserves the right to make exceptions for any current circumstances including the right to withdraw or reject the storage of private boats at any time.
> 6. Should private boat and equipment storage be withdrawn for any reason, the Committee will request the boat and equipment be removed with one month’s notice.
> 7. It is the Committee’s preference that only single sculls are stored at Ballarat City Rowing Club providing the usage, storage, and all other requirements as per this Policy are met and maintained.
> Fees and Insurance
> 1. There is an annual fee per seat for storage of private boats. This fee covers associated items such as riggers, oars, trestles, and boat covers.
> 2. The boat storage fee may be reviewed annually by the Committee and members will be notified in writing of any changes in fees.
> 2. Boat storage fees are payable by 1 September of each year and must be paid within 14 days from date of invoice. The Committee will withdraw approval for private boat storage if fees have not been paid by the due date.
> Ballarat City Rowing Club
> Boatshed 30, Wendouree Parade, Lake Wendouree VIC 3350 www.ballaratcityrowing.com
>
> 3. There is no part year storage fee. The full annual fee is payable when boats are stored for a part year.
> 4. Fee payments are non-refundable and non-transferrable.
> 5. Private boats and equipment are stored at the members’ own risk. Ballarat City Rowing Club and its members are not liable for any damage or loss of boats or equipment stored at the Club regardless of the circumstances.
> 6. Private boats and equipment are transported at the members’ own risk. Ballarat City Rowing Club and its members are not liable for any damage or loss of boats or equipment transported by the Club regardless of the circumstances.
> 7. Members should ensure that their boats and equipment are adequately insured. Private boat insurance may be organised through the Ballarat City Rowing Club; however, members remain responsible for ensuring that the insurance provided is adequate. Members wishing to use the Club’s own insurance should contact the Treasurer or Secretary.
> 8. Boat storage fees may be waived at the discretion of the Committee.
> Storage Conditions
> 1. The Committee, or Boat Captain as the Committee’s delegate, will determine where and how each private boat or equipment items will be stored at Ballarat City Rowing Club.
> 2. The Committee, or Boat Captain as the Committee’s delegate, reserves the right to change the position and how private boats and equipment are stored to maintain maximum storage space and safety of all members, boats, and other equipment.
> 4. There may be circumstances under which members are requested to remove private boats and equipment for a period, for example, for boatshed renovations. The Committee will give reasonable notice to members in these circumstances.
> 5. Private boat owners are encouraged to ensure all boats and equipment are clearly labelled both “Private” and with identifying details such as owner’s name.
> 6. Storing boats and associated equipment at Ballarat City Rowing Club constitutes acceptance of this Boat Storage Policy.
> Application Process
> 1. Enquiries regarding available space should be made to the Ballarat City Rowing Club Captain at XXX...@ballaratcityrowing.com.
> Ballarat City Rowing Club
> Boatshed 30, Wendouree Parade, Lake Wendouree VIC 3350 www.ballaratcityrowing.com
>
> 2. Formal requests for storage space should be made to Committee using the Private Equipment Storage Application Form.
> 3. The Committee will consider the application at the next committee meeting and then inform the member of the outcome. If the request is rejected, reasons for this will be provided.
> 4. If there is no space available, members applying for space will be placed on a waiting list in the order in which applications are received.
> 5. The first storage fee is payable prior to the boat being stored at the club and within 1 month of committee approval of storage space.
> Procedure for making insurance claims for private equipment insured with the Club
> The owner is responsible for
> • ensuring an incident report has been lodged with the Club
> • organising a quote and payment for repair, and
> • providing photos of the relevant damage before forwarding to the Secretary and
> Treasurer for the insurance claim.
> Policy accepted 12 July 2022

Pretty comprehensive. My club charges for private racking and again there is no part year option. We are required to insure our boats as a condition of racking. I think most of what is in your club's policy is implicit in most clubs, just not spelled out in such detail. Not sure why it is the end of the line for you. Do you no longer use your boat, or is it the Life Membership?

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 by: James HS - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 07:39 UTC

On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 at 16:31:57 UTC+1, jbc...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 at 12:39:43 UTC+1, tim.j...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Good evening all, it has been a while since I posted here.
> > 2007 in fact.
> > I was hoping to get some feed back on this new boat storage policy at the club
> > were I'm currently a life member. Just wondered if any other club out there has anything remotely similar, I would hope not.
> > Possible the end of the line for me after nearly 50 years involvement in the club.
> >
> > The policy is displayed below.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > TW
> >
> >
> >
> > Private Equipment Storage Policy
> > This policy is to provide guidance on storage of private boats and associated equipment at Ballarat City Rowing Club.
> > Provision for Private Boat Storage
> > 1. Boat racks will always be prioritised to club-owned boats followed by boats provided to the Club by private owners for club racing and training purposes. Privately owned boats which are not provided to the Club and its members for club racing or training purposes are least prioritised.
> > 2. Storage of private boats and other equipment at Ballarat City Rowing Club is supported only when there is available space once all club-owned boats and equipment have been prioritised and suitably allocated.
> > 3. Boat rack allocations are reviewed annually and is approved by the Committee depending on the likely usage of the boat.
> > 4. Members wishing to store privately owned boats and equipment must be full financial members of the Club.
> > 5. The Committee reserves the right to make exceptions for any current circumstances including the right to withdraw or reject the storage of private boats at any time.
> > 6. Should private boat and equipment storage be withdrawn for any reason, the Committee will request the boat and equipment be removed with one month’s notice.
> > 7. It is the Committee’s preference that only single sculls are stored at Ballarat City Rowing Club providing the usage, storage, and all other requirements as per this Policy are met and maintained.
> > Fees and Insurance
> > 1. There is an annual fee per seat for storage of private boats. This fee covers associated items such as riggers, oars, trestles, and boat covers..
> > 2. The boat storage fee may be reviewed annually by the Committee and members will be notified in writing of any changes in fees.
> > 2. Boat storage fees are payable by 1 September of each year and must be paid within 14 days from date of invoice. The Committee will withdraw approval for private boat storage if fees have not been paid by the due date.
> > Ballarat City Rowing Club
> > Boatshed 30, Wendouree Parade, Lake Wendouree VIC 3350 www.ballaratcityrowing.com
> >
> > 3. There is no part year storage fee. The full annual fee is payable when boats are stored for a part year.
> > 4. Fee payments are non-refundable and non-transferrable.
> > 5. Private boats and equipment are stored at the members’ own risk. Ballarat City Rowing Club and its members are not liable for any damage or loss of boats or equipment stored at the Club regardless of the circumstances.
> > 6. Private boats and equipment are transported at the members’ own risk. Ballarat City Rowing Club and its members are not liable for any damage or loss of boats or equipment transported by the Club regardless of the circumstances.
> > 7. Members should ensure that their boats and equipment are adequately insured. Private boat insurance may be organised through the Ballarat City Rowing Club; however, members remain responsible for ensuring that the insurance provided is adequate. Members wishing to use the Club’s own insurance should contact the Treasurer or Secretary.
> > 8. Boat storage fees may be waived at the discretion of the Committee.
> > Storage Conditions
> > 1. The Committee, or Boat Captain as the Committee’s delegate, will determine where and how each private boat or equipment items will be stored at Ballarat City Rowing Club.
> > 2. The Committee, or Boat Captain as the Committee’s delegate, reserves the right to change the position and how private boats and equipment are stored to maintain maximum storage space and safety of all members, boats, and other equipment.
> > 4. There may be circumstances under which members are requested to remove private boats and equipment for a period, for example, for boatshed renovations. The Committee will give reasonable notice to members in these circumstances.
> > 5. Private boat owners are encouraged to ensure all boats and equipment are clearly labelled both “Private” and with identifying details such as owner’s name.
> > 6. Storing boats and associated equipment at Ballarat City Rowing Club constitutes acceptance of this Boat Storage Policy.
> > Application Process
> > 1. Enquiries regarding available space should be made to the Ballarat City Rowing Club Captain at XXX...@ballaratcityrowing.com.
> > Ballarat City Rowing Club
> > Boatshed 30, Wendouree Parade, Lake Wendouree VIC 3350 www.ballaratcityrowing.com
> >
> > 2. Formal requests for storage space should be made to Committee using the Private Equipment Storage Application Form.
> > 3. The Committee will consider the application at the next committee meeting and then inform the member of the outcome. If the request is rejected, reasons for this will be provided.
> > 4. If there is no space available, members applying for space will be placed on a waiting list in the order in which applications are received.
> > 5. The first storage fee is payable prior to the boat being stored at the club and within 1 month of committee approval of storage space.
> > Procedure for making insurance claims for private equipment insured with the Club
> > The owner is responsible for
> > • ensuring an incident report has been lodged with the Club
> > • organising a quote and payment for repair, and
> > • providing photos of the relevant damage before forwarding to the Secretary and
> > Treasurer for the insurance claim.
> > Policy accepted 12 July 2022
>
> Pretty comprehensive. My club charges for private racking and again there is no part year option. We are required to insure our boats as a condition of racking. I think most of what is in your club's policy is implicit in most clubs, just not spelled out in such detail. Not sure why it is the end of the line for you. Do you no longer use your boat, or is it the Life Membership?

Again similar at my club - and there are important points.

Only difference is that we can pay monthly and the club would probably refund if they made the space unavailable. But we can also pay membership monthly.

Under used private singles are a problem for popular clubs that want ti increase their fleet.

James

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 by: Tim Wise - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 00:26 UTC

Hello James, thanks for your reply.
The devil is in the detail, the fact you can pay off your fees monthly and have the prospect of getting a refund make this a radically different policy to the one you operate under.
The problem of under utilized boats has been addressed in the past by a much a fair system by only imposing the fees of boats that did not make a minimum number of outings a year.
For owners of private boats it is really a no win situation, pay the same fees as everyone else but not necessarily have access to all club equipment that other members do.
Compensate for this by buying your own boats and you get hit with an extra tax.
In some cases this will double memberships fees with no option for a payment scheme.

As a matter of interest nearly all the club National Champions World Championship representatives an Olympic representatives trained and raced in private boats to get their titles/representation.
The only exception that comes to mind was a coxed pair back in the sixties.

This policy just make life more difficult for those who have made a huge commitment to the sport.

Tw
>
> > Pretty comprehensive. My club charges for private racking and again there is no part year option. We are required to insure our boats as a condition of racking. I think most of what is in your club's policy is implicit in most clubs, just not spelled out in such detail. Not sure why it is the end of the line for you. Do you no longer use your boat, or is it the Life Membership?
> Again similar at my club - and there are important points.
>
> Only difference is that we can pay monthly and the club would probably refund if they made the space unavailable. But we can also pay membership monthly.
>
> Under used private singles are a problem for popular clubs that want ti increase their fleet.
>
> James


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