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 by: observer - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 21:47 UTC

March 14 2023
https://www.espn.ph/nfl/story/_/id/35859673/colts-trading-cb-stephon-gilmore-cowboys

Cowboys traded a 2023 5th round pick (169) to
Colts for Gilmore. Financial terms of the deal,
I'm not sure what those are. Cowboys still have
the 161st & 176th picks in the 5th round.

+ All-pro in 2018 & 2019.

* Pro bowl in 2016 & 2018 to 2021.

1st round 10th overall pick in 2012.

Will be 33 in 6 months.

PFR AV history:

2012 ... 5
2013 ... 3 (only started 9 games)
2014 ... 5
2015 ... 5
2016 ... 7 *
2017 ... 5
2018 ... 15 *+
2019 ... 22 *+ NFL Defensive Player of the Year
2020 ... 6 *
2021 ... 5 * (only started 3 games)
2022 ... 5

--- --- ---

Re: Indianapolis Colts are trading 5-time Pro Bowl cornerback Stephon Gilmore to Dallas Cowboys

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Subject: Re: Indianapolis Colts are trading 5-time Pro Bowl cornerback Stephon
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 by: observer - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:50 UTC

Follow-up:

Weird, I went to Stephon Gilmore's Career
stats page, got all of the information that
I included in the previous post, but failed
to include the link I used. Go figure, per-
fection is hard:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GilmSt00.htm

Begs the question, how in the world was
Stephon NFL defensive player of the year
in 2019, his 2nd straight all-pro year, &
go back to being a good but not all that
exceptional player from 2020 to 2022.

Oh well, over the hill at 30? Stephon suf-
fered a a partially torn quadriceps Dec 20
2020, missed the rest of the 2020 season
& began the 2021 season on PUP. Seems
2019, his NFL Defensive Player of the Year
season, was the apex of his career & even ...

.... though Cowboys fans hope he can re-
mind us of that greatest year, at age 33 it's
not likely that will happen.

The following Cowboys article, not much in
the way of positive spin, but hey, maybe I'm
just seeing the glass half empty & should
instead be seeing the glass half full.
https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/cowboys-trade-for-veteran-cb-stephon-gilmore

Gilmore, Parsons, & Diggs after
2022 game vs the Colts
https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop_2x/f_auto/cowboys/jvrybv8ty37guhk0vwir.jpg

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:47:50 PM UTC-5, observer wrote:

..> March 14 2023
..> https://www.espn.ph/nfl/story/_/id/35859673/colts-trading-cb-stephon-gilmore-cowboys
..>
..> Cowboys traded a 2023 5th round pick (169) to
..> Colts for Gilmore. Financial terms of the deal,
..> I'm not sure what those are. Cowboys still have
..> the 161st & 176th picks in the 5th round.
..>
..> + All-pro in 2018 & 2019.
..>
..> * Pro bowl in 2016 & 2018 to 2021.
..>
..> 1st round 10th overall pick in 2012.
..>
..> Will be 33 in 6 months.
..>
..> PFR AV history:
..>
..> 2012 ... 5
..> 2013 ... 3 (only started 9 games)
..> 2014 ... 5
..> 2015 ... 5
..> 2016 ... 7 *
..> 2017 ... 5
..> 2018 ... 15 *+
..> 2019 ... 22 *+ NFL Defensive Player of the Year
..> 2020 ... 6 *
..> 2021 ... 5 * (only started 3 games)
..> 2022 ... 5
..>
..> *--- --- ---*

Re: Indianapolis Colts are trading 5-time Pro Bowl cornerback Stephon Gilmore to Dallas Cowboys

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Subject: Re: Indianapolis Colts are trading 5-time Pro Bowl cornerback Stephon
Gilmore to Dallas Cowboys
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 by: observer - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 00:36 UTC

Follow-up 3:

Some Stephon Gilmore positive spins:

From Skip Bayless:
https://www.thecoldwire.com/skip-bayless-reacts-to-cowboys-big-trade-today/

"YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! ... FINALLY THE DALLAS
COWBOYS DO SOMETHING, FILLING A DANGEROUS
HOLE AT CORNERBACK WITH A GREAT PLAYER,
STEPHON GILMORE, WHO STILL HAS PLENTY LEFT
AT 32. GOT HIM FOR ONLY A 5TH! NOW THIS DE-
FENSE RIVALS 49ERS' AS THE NFL'S BEST. HAPPY
DAYS, HERE AGAIN!"

Comment: For some reason, I'm not as optimistic
about Gilmore as Skip is. Gilmore turns 33 on Sep-
tember 19th.

~~~

From an Indianapolis website commenting on the
trade: "Gilmore sealed victories over the Chiefs,
Broncos & Raiders with pass break-ups on the
final possession. He was a resource constantly
helping younger players in the defensive backs
room."

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 6:50:34 PM UTC-5, observer wrote:

..> Follow-up:
..>
..> Weird, I went to Stephon Gilmore's Career
..> stats page, got all of the information that
..> I included in the previous post, but failed
..> to include the link I used. Go figure, per-
..> fection is hard:
..> https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GilmSt00.htm
..>
..> Begs the question, how in the world was
..> Stephon NFL defensive player of the year
..> in 2019, his 2nd straight all-pro year, &
..> go back to being a good but not all that
..> exceptional player from 2020 to 2022.
..>
..> Oh well, over the hill at 30? Stephon suf-
..> fered a a partially torn quadriceps Dec 20
..> 2020, missed the rest of the 2020 season
..> & began the 2021 season on PUP. Seems
..> 2019, his NFL Defensive Player of the Year
..> season, was the apex of his career & even ...
..>
..> ... though Cowboys fans hope he can re-
..> mind us of that greatest year, at age 33 it's
..> not likely that will happen.
..>
..> The following Cowboys article, not much in
..> the way of positive spin, but hey, maybe I'm
..> just seeing the glass half empty & should
..> instead be seeing the glass half full.
..> https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/cowboys-trade-for-veteran-cb-stephon-gilmore
..>
..> Gilmore, Parsons, & Diggs after
..> 2022 game vs the Colts
..> https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop_2x/f_auto/cowboys/jvrybv8ty37guhk0vwir.jpg
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:47:50 PM UTC-5, observer wrote:
/> .> March 14 2023
/> .> https://www.espn.ph/nfl/story/_/id/35859673/colts-trading-cb-stephon-gilmore-cowboys
/> .>
/> .> Cowboys traded a 2023 5th round pick (169) to
/> .> Colts for Gilmore. Financial terms of the deal,
/> .> I'm not sure what those are. Cowboys still have
/> .> the 161st & 176th picks in the 5th round.
/> .>
/> .> + All-pro in 2018 & 2019.
/> .>
/> .> * Pro bowl in 2016 & 2018 to 2021.
/> .>
/> .> 1st round 10th overall pick in 2012.
/> .>
/> .> Will be 33 in 6 months.
/> .>
/> .> PFR AV history:
/> .>
/> .> 2012 ... 5
/> .> 2013 ... 3 (only started 9 games)
/> .> 2014 ... 5
/> .> 2015 ... 5
/> .> 2016 ... 7 *
/> .> 2017 ... 5
/> .> 2018 ... 15 *+
/> .> 2019 ... 22 *+ NFL Defensive Player of the Year
/> .> 2020 ... 6 *
/> .> 2021 ... 5 * (only started 3 games)
/> .> 2022 ... 5
/> .>
/> .> \*--- --- ---*/

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Subject: Re: Indianapolis Colts are trading 5-time Pro Bowl cornerback Stephon
Gilmore to Dallas Cowboys
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Follow-up 4:

An article with a lot of detailed positive spins
on Gilmore (March 14 2023):

How Stephon Gilmore fits with Dallas Cowboys
after being traded from Indianapolis Colts
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-how-stephon-gilmore-fits-with-dallas-cowboys-trade-indianpolis-colts

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 7:36:47 PM UTC-5, observer wrote:

..> Follow-up 3:
..>
..> Some Stephon Gilmore positive spins:
..>
..> From Skip Bayless:
..> https://www.thecoldwire.com/skip-bayless-reacts-to-cowboys-big-trade-today/
..>
..> "YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! ... FINALLY THE DALLAS
..> COWBOYS DO SOMETHING, FILLING A DANGEROUS
..> HOLE AT CORNERBACK WITH A GREAT PLAYER,
..> STEPHON GILMORE, WHO STILL HAS PLENTY LEFT
..> AT 32. GOT HIM FOR ONLY A 5TH! NOW THIS DE-
..> FENSE RIVALS 49ERS' AS THE NFL'S BEST. HAPPY
..> DAYS, HERE AGAIN!"
..>
..> Comment: For some reason, I'm not as optimistic
..> about Gilmore as Skip is. Gilmore turns 33 on Sep-
..> tember 19th.
..>
..> ~~~
..>
..> From an Indianapolis website commenting on the
..> trade: "Gilmore sealed victories over the Chiefs,
..> Broncos & Raiders with pass break-ups on the
..> final possession. He was a resource constantly
..> helping younger players in the defensive backs
..> room."
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 6:50:34 PM UTC-5, observer wrote:
/> .> Follow-up:
/> .>
/> .> Weird, I went to Stephon Gilmore's Career
/> .> stats page, got all of the information that
/> .> I included in the previous post, but failed
/> .> to include the link I used. Go figure, per-
/> .> fection is hard:
/> .> https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GilmSt00.htm
/> .>
/> .> Begs the question, how in the world was
/> .> Stephon NFL defensive player of the year
/> .> in 2019, his 2nd straight all-pro year, &
/> .> go back to being a good but not all that
/> .> exceptional player from 2020 to 2022.
/> .>
/> .> Oh well, over the hill at 30? Stephon suf-
/> .> fered a a partially torn quadriceps Dec 20
/> .> 2020, missed the rest of the 2020 season
/> .> & began the 2021 season on PUP. Seems
/> .> 2019, his NFL Defensive Player of the Year
/> .> season, was the apex of his career & even ...
/> .>
/> .> ... though Cowboys fans hope he can re-
/> .> mind us of that greatest year, at age 33 it's
/> .> not likely that will happen.
/> .>
/> .> The following Cowboys article, not much in
/> .> the way of positive spin, but hey, maybe I'm
/> .> just seeing the glass half empty & should
/> .> instead be seeing the glass half full.
/> .> https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/cowboys-trade-for-veteran-cb-stephon-gilmore
/> .>
/> .> Gilmore, Parsons, & Diggs after
/> .> 2022 game vs the Colts
/> .> https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop_2x/f_auto/cowboys/jvrybv8ty37guhk0vwir.jpg

> > On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:47:50 PM UTC-5, observer wrote:

~> /> .> March 14 2023
~> /> .> https://www.espn.ph/nfl/story/_/id/35859673/colts-trading-cb-stephon-gilmore-cowboys
~> /> .>
~> /> .> Cowboys traded a 2023 5th round pick (169) to
~> /> .> Colts for Gilmore. Financial terms of the deal,
~> /> .> I'm not sure what those are. Cowboys still have
~> /> .> the 161st & 176th picks in the 5th round.
~> /> .>
~> /> .> + All-pro in 2018 & 2019.
~> /> .>
~> /> .> * Pro bowl in 2016 & 2018 to 2021.
~> /> .>
~> /> .> 1st round 10th overall pick in 2012.
~> /> .>
~> /> .> Will be 33 in 6 months.
~> /> .>
~> /> .> PFR AV history:
~> /> .>
~> /> .> 2012 ... 5
~> /> .> 2013 ... 3 (only started 9 games)
~> /> .> 2014 ... 5
~> /> .> 2015 ... 5
~> /> .> 2016 ... 7 *
~> /> .> 2017 ... 5
~> /> .> 2018 ... 15 *+
~> /> .> 2019 ... 22 *+ NFL Defensive Player of the Year
~> /> .> 2020 ... 6 *
~> /> .> 2021 ... 5 * (only started 3 games)
~> /> .> 2022 ... 5
~> /> .>
~> /> .> ~\*---~---~---*/~

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