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Subject: OT - Comparison of real sizes of U.S./Alaska, Russia, & Greenland +
NATO details
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U.S. without Alaska - light blue
Alaska - red
Russia - dark pink
Greenland - light green
https://tinyurl.com/USRussiaGreenland-real-sizes

Accurate sizes are only displayable at
the equator. The further north or south
a country is, the larger it appears on
2-dimensional maps, magnifying sizes
yielding inaccuracies.

Actual sizes:
https://statisticstimes.com/geography/countries-by-area.php

Russia total area is just 74% larger
than U.S. total area.

Another way of looking at it is if
you combine the total area of the
U.S. & Canada (2 countries with
close ties & often similar outlooks),
those 2 countries are 16% larger
in total area than Russia.

~~~

Another way of looking at it is to
compare the total area of NATO
after Sweden & Finland are voted
in to NATO (9,494,252 + 304,418
= 9,798,670 square miles) to the
total area of Russia (6,601,665 ...

.... square miles). NATO (after both
Sweden & Finland are added) will
be 48% larger than Russia.

Current map of NATO prior to the
addition of Sweden & Finland:
https://cdn.worlddata.info/maps/nato-north-atlantic-treaty-organization-dark-720.png

~~~

As for Sweden & Finland, Turkey has
been opposing those countries get-
ting into NATO, the latest news on
that is at
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/turkey-opens-up-to-swedens-nato-application-after-us-meeting/

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Re: OT - Comparison of real sizes of U.S./Alaska, Russia, & Greenland + NATO details

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Subject: Re: OT - Comparison of real sizes of U.S./Alaska, Russia, & Greenland
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From: prohuman...@gmail.com (observer)
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Follow-up: Valuable NATO links added at the
bottom of this post.

On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 10:43:34 AM UTC-6, observer wrote:

..> U.S. without Alaska - light blue
..> Alaska - red
..> Russia - dark pink
..> Greenland - light green
..> https://tinyurl.com/USRussiaGreenland-real-sizes
..>
..> Accurate sizes are only displayable at
..> the equator. The further north or south
..> a country is, the larger it appears on
..> 2-dimensional maps, magnifying sizes
..> yielding inaccuracies.
..>
..> Actual sizes:
..> https://statisticstimes.com/geography/countries-by-area.php
..>
..> Russia total area is just 74% larger
..> than U.S. total area.
..>
..> Another way of looking at it is if
..> you combine the total area of the
..> U.S. & Canada (2 countries with
..> close ties & often similar outlooks),
..> those 2 countries are 16% larger
..> in total area than Russia.
..>
..> ~~~
..>
..> Another way of looking at it is to
..> compare the total area of NATO
..> after Sweden & Finland are voted
..> in to NATO (9,494,252 + 304,418
..> = 9,798,670 square miles) to the
..> total area of Russia (6,601,665 ...
..>
..> ... square miles). NATO (after both
..> Sweden & Finland are added) will
..> be 48% larger than Russia.
..>
..> Current map of NATO prior to the
..> addition of Sweden & Finland:
..> https://cdn.worlddata.info/maps/nato-north-atlantic-treaty-organization-dark-720.png
..>
..> ~~~
..>
..> As for Sweden & Finland, Turkey has
..> been opposing those countries get-
..> ting into NATO, the latest news on
..> that is at
..> https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/turkey-opens-up-to-swedens-nato-application-after-us-meeting/
..>
..> *--- --- ---*

Nifty display of NATO countries on a world
globe map that comes much closer to dis-
playing actual sizes that do 2-diminsional
maps. The following link is to Albania, &
each NATO country is displayable via the
arrow links on the right & left:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO#/media/File:Albania_on_the_globe_(Europe_centered).svg

Nifty chronological view of when NATO mem-
bers were added from 1949 to 2020:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_NATO_chronological.gif

Current NATO states (+ status of countries
in the process of joining NATO):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO

Map of current NATO European members in
dark blue, countries close to membership in
light blue, countries aspiring to membership
in purple, countries not a member in gray or
aligned with Russia in red:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NATO_30_Members.png

~---~---~---~

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Subject: Re: OT - Comparison of real sizes of U.S./Alaska, Russia, & Greenland
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Follow-up 2:

On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 11:13:54 AM UTC-6, observer wrote:

..> Follow-up: Valuable NATO links added at the
..> bottom of this post.
> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 10:43:34 AM UTC-6, observer wrote:
/> .> U.S. without Alaska - light blue
/> .> Alaska - red
/> .> Russia - dark pink
/> .> Greenland - light green
/> .> https://tinyurl.com/USRussiaGreenland-real-sizes

Another version which, in my constant
striving for perfection, is a bit more
accurate than the version above (in my
opinion), moving all entities further south
https://tinyurl.com/USRussiaGreenland-real-sizes2

/> .>
/> .> Accurate sizes are only displayable at
/> .> the equator. The further north or south
/> .> a country is, the larger it appears on
/> .> 2-dimensional maps, magnifying sizes
/> .> yielding inaccuracies.
/> .>
/> .> Actual sizes:
/> .> https://statisticstimes.com/geography/countries-by-area.php
/> .>
/> .> Russia total area is just 74% larger
/> .> than U.S. total area.
/> .>
/> .> Another way of looking at it is if
/> .> you combine the total area of the
/> .> U.S. & Canada (2 countries with
/> .> close ties & often similar outlooks),
/> .> those 2 countries are 16% larger
/> .> in total area than Russia.
/> .>
/> .> ~~~
/> .>
/> .> Another way of looking at it is to
/> .> compare the total area of NATO
/> .> after Sweden & Finland are voted
/> .> in to NATO (9,494,252 + 304,418
/> .> = 9,798,670 square miles) to the
/> .> total area of Russia (6,601,665 ...
/> .>
/> .> ... square miles). NATO (after both
/> .> Sweden & Finland are added) will
/> .> be 48% larger than Russia.
/> .>
/> .> Current map of NATO prior to the
/> .> addition of Sweden & Finland:
/> .> https://cdn.worlddata.info/maps/nato-north-atlantic-treaty-organization-dark-720.png
/> .>
/> .> ~~~
/> .>
/> .> As for Sweden & Finland, Turkey has
/> .> been opposing those countries get-
/> .> ting into NATO, the latest news on
/> .> that is at
/> .> https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/turkey-opens-up-to-swedens-nato-application-after-us-meeting/
/> .>
/> .> \*---~---~---*/
..> Nifty display of NATO countries on a world
..> globe map that comes much closer to dis-
..> playing actual sizes that do 2-diminsional
..> maps. The following link is to Albania, &
..> each NATO country is displayable via the
..> arrow links on the right & left:
..> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO#/media/File:Albania_on_the_globe_(Europe_centered).svg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO#/media/File:Albania_on_the_globe_(Europe_centered).svg
..>
..> Nifty chronological view of when NATO mem-
..> bers were added from 1949 to 2020:
..> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_NATO_chronological.gif
..>
..> Current NATO states (+ status of countries
..> in the process of joining NATO):
..> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO
..>
..> Map of current NATO European members in
..> dark blue, countries close to membership in
..> light blue, countries aspiring to membership
..> in purple, countries not a member in gray or
..> aligned with Russia in red:
..> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NATO_30_Members.png
..>
..> \*~---~---~---~*/

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Link to previous posts:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/XP-CufZQY-M/m/fmLK0qQbBAAJ

The way in which 2-dimensional maps
exaggerate sizes the further you go from
the equator, the following graphic shows
that in the clearest manner possible, with
Greenland, Canada, northern Europe, &
Russia the most exaggerated (a fact I ...

.... suspect Putin delights in), with the
continental U.S. & China having far less
exaggeration. Hardly any exaggeration
in South America, Africa, & Australia:
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mercator-map-true-size-of-countries/

Over 2/3rds of the world's land mass
is in the northern hemisphere.

The northern hemisphere is 40% land,
60% water.

The southern hemisphere is 20% land,
80% water.

Compare the land north of 30 degrees
north latitude (includes most of the U.S.,
Canada, Europe, Russia, most of China,
Japan, Korea) to the land south of 30
degrees south latitude (Chile, Argentina, ...

.... southern tip of Brazil, southern tip of
South Africa, southernmost coast of
Australia, New Zealand, & Antarctica).
https://tinyurl.com/worldmapbylatitude

Northern hemisphere population is 6.96
billion people (87.0% of the Earth's human
population). Southern hemisphere popula-
tion is 1.04 billion people (13% of Earth's
human population).
https://www.google.com/search?q=world+population+northern+vs+southern+hemisphere

~~~

As for accuracy, the AuthaGraph map is
claimed to be the most accurate map
you'll ever see:
https://allthatsinteresting.com/authagraph-world-map

!!!---~---~---!!!

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Follow-up about Sweden & Finland attempt
to be approved by Turkey & the other 29
NATO members to become the newest
NATO members:

/> .> As for Sweden & Finland, Turkey has
/> .> been opposing those countries get-
/> .> ting into NATO, the latest news on
/> .> that is at
/> .> https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/turkey-opens-up-to-swedens-nato-application-after-us-meeting/

---
March 15 2023

Turkey plans to ratify Finland's NATO bid
https://www.reuters.com/world/turkey-plans-ratify-finlands-nato-bid-ahead-may-polls-sources-2023-03-15/
---

Turkey's parliament will "highly likely" ratify
Finland's NATO accession bid before mid-April ... .

.... Talks between Sweden & Turkey have made
little progress, especially following several dis-
putes mainly over street protests by pro-Kurdish
groups in Stockholm. ... Sweden's Prime Minister
.... said on Tuesday that the likelihood of Finland
joining NATO ahead of Sweden had increased, ...

.... after talks between the 3 sides in Brussels
this week.

.... The United States & other NATO countries
are hoping that the 2 Nordic countries become
members of the alliance at a NATO summit due
to be held in July 11 ... .

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 4:49:37 PM UTC-6, observer wrote:

..> Link to previous posts:
..> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/XP-CufZQY-M/m/fmLK0qQbBAAJ
..>
..> The way in which 2-dimensional maps
..> exaggerate sizes the further you go from
..> the equator, the following graphic shows
..> that in the clearest manner possible, with
..> Greenland, Canada, northern Europe, &
..> Russia the most exaggerated (a fact I ...
..>
..> ... suspect Putin delights in), with the
..> continental U.S. & China having far less
..> exaggeration. Hardly any exaggeration
..> in South America, Africa, & Australia:
..> https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mercator-map-true-size-of-countries/
..>
..> Over 2/3rds of the world's land mass
..> is in the northern hemisphere.
..>
..> The northern hemisphere is 40% land,
..> 60% water.
..>
..> The southern hemisphere is 20% land,
..> 80% water.
..>
..> Compare the land north of 30 degrees
..> north latitude (includes most of the U.S.,
..> Canada, Europe, Russia, most of China,
..> Japan, Korea) to the land south of 30
..> degrees south latitude (Chile, Argentina, ...
..>
..> ... southern tip of Brazil, southern tip of
..> South Africa, southernmost coast of
..> Australia, New Zealand, & Antarctica).
..> https://tinyurl.com/worldmapbylatitude
..>
..> Northern hemisphere population is 6.96
..> billion people (87.0% of the Earth's human
..> population). Southern hemisphere popula-
..> tion is 1.04 billion people (13% of Earth's
..> human population).
..> https://www.google.com/search?q=world+population+northern+vs+southern+hemisphere
..>
..> ~~~
..>
..> As for accuracy, the AuthaGraph map is
..> claimed to be the most accurate map
..> you'll ever see:
..> https://allthatsinteresting.com/authagraph-world-map
..>
..> *\!!!---~---~---!!!/*


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