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When the GM says at a press conference "we are happy to have daniel back and look forward to building a team around him to win a super bowl"....so whether its a contract or a tag there you go he will be the Giants QB to open 2023.

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On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:53:15 PM UTC-5, iommiRULES wrote:
> When the GM says at a press conference "we are happy to have daniel back and look forward to building a team around him to win a super bowl"....so whether its a contract or a tag there you go he will be the Giants QB to open 2023.

here is the actual quote:
“We’re happy Daniel’s going to be here,” Schoen said on Monday, before quickly adding, “Hopefully we’re gonna get something done with his representatives. That would be the goal, to build the team around him where he can lead us and win a Super Bowl.”

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 by: jeffg...@webtv.net - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:24 UTC

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:58:21 PM UTC-5, iommiRULES wrote:
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:53:15 PM UTC-5, iommiRULES wrote:
> > When the GM says at a press conference "we are happy to have daniel back and look forward to building a team around him to win a super bowl"....so whether its a contract or a tag there you go he will be the Giants QB to open 2023.
> here is the actual quote:
> “We’re happy Daniel’s going to be here,” Schoen said on Monday, before quickly adding, “Hopefully we’re gonna get something done with his representatives. That would be the goal, to build the team around him where he can lead us and win a Super Bowl.”
But let us remember he is a free agent unless he is tagged. Tagging him can be disastrous as he does not have to sign the tag and can hold out. Also, even if he does sign the tag, that can also be a very negative thing as it is a huge cap hit since it is not spread out. Look what tagging Kirk Cousins, actually twice, did to Washington.

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On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:24:57 AM UTC-5, jeffg...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:58:21 PM UTC-5, iommiRULES wrote:
> > On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:53:15 PM UTC-5, iommiRULES wrote:
> > > When the GM says at a press conference "we are happy to have daniel back and look forward to building a team around him to win a super bowl"....so whether its a contract or a tag there you go he will be the Giants QB to open 2023.
> > here is the actual quote:
> > “We’re happy Daniel’s going to be here,” Schoen said on Monday, before quickly adding, “Hopefully we’re gonna get something done with his representatives. That would be the goal, to build the team around him where he can lead us and win a Super Bowl.”
> But let us remember he is a free agent unless he is tagged. Tagging him can be disastrous as he does not have to sign the tag and can hold out. Also, even if he does sign the tag, that can also be a very negative thing as it is a huge cap hit since it is not spread out. Look what tagging Kirk Cousins, actually twice, did to Washington.

Technically you are right, but realistically does he want to fuck up a good thing for few extra million? After what he has been thru? This guy needs continuity and i think even if they kept shurmur he woulda been ok, now after 2 years of darkness in the Joe Judge era he will not want to risk yet another new system, a new team, a new possibly bad coach and the way Schoen was talking it basically just sounds like a crossing the T's and dotting the I's situation....If he thinks he is worth more then just sign a shorter term deal, that may work out well for both parties, if he becomes elite he is up for a new contract in not to distant future and if not the Giants draft a guy. Its much more likely this scenario plays out with Saquan. And also if every player dispises the Franchise tag.....and i can see why because its a 1 year contract, then why the hell does the NFLPA keep signing off on it?

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 by: *ernie - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:48 UTC

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:53:15 PM UTC-5, iommiRULES wrote:
> When the GM says at a press conference "we are happy to have daniel back and look forward to building a team around him to win a super bowl"....so whether its a contract or a tag there you go he will be the Giants QB to open 2023.

I really hope they do sign him to at least a 4 year deal. The guy has those certain qualities you want in your QB, smart and tough. He doesn't have Mahones' arm or Jackson's legs but he might just have Brady's mind-set. From what he's shown already, he deserves a contract worthy of a top NFL QB

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 by: iommiRULES - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 01:44 UTC

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 3:48:21 PM UTC-5, *ernie wrote:
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:53:15 PM UTC-5, iommiRULES wrote:
> > When the GM says at a press conference "we are happy to have daniel back and look forward to building a team around him to win a super bowl"....so whether its a contract or a tag there you go he will be the Giants QB to open 2023.
> I really hope they do sign him to at least a 4 year deal. The guy has those certain qualities you want in your QB, smart and tough. He doesn't have Mahones' arm or Jackson's legs but he might just have Brady's mind-set. From what he's shown already, he deserves a contract worthy of a top NFL QB

I say he has Elis demeaner off the feild, throws a prettier ball but his big game clutch factor, Elis best attribute, YTBD. I think his on the feild fire is more than Eli but less than Phil, more of a stocky build like Phil and of course he puts both those all time Giants greats to shame in the running dept. What we do not know yet is his ceiling because he had shit coaching for 2 years and this year he had the coaching but was playing with 3rd and 4th string WR, plus the oline is still a WIP but improving.

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 by: *ernie - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 20:42 UTC

On 1/24/2023 8:44 PM, iommiRULES wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 3:48:21 PM UTC-5, *ernie wrote:
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:53:15 PM UTC-5, iommiRULES wrote:
>>> When the GM says at a press conference "we are happy to have daniel back and look forward to building a team around him to win a super bowl"....so whether its a contract or a tag there you go he will be the Giants QB to open 2023.
>> I really hope they do sign him to at least a 4 year deal. The guy has those certain qualities you want in your QB, smart and tough. He doesn't have Mahones' arm or Jackson's legs but he might just have Brady's mind-set. From what he's shown already, he deserves a contract worthy of a top NFL QB
>
> I say he has Elis demeaner off the feild, throws a prettier ball but his big game clutch factor, Elis best attribute, YTBD. I think his on the feild fire is more than Eli but less than Phil, more of a stocky build like Phil and of course he puts both those all time Giants greats to shame in the running dept. What we do not know yet is his ceiling because he had shit coaching for 2 years and this year he had the coaching but was playing with 3rd and 4th string WR, plus the oline is still a WIP but improving.

It's not fair to him,but he'll always be compared to Eli; and those are
some very big shoes to fill

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 by: iommiRULES - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 01:27 UTC

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 3:43:00 PM UTC-5, *ernie wrote:
> On 1/24/2023 8:44 PM, iommiRULES wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 3:48:21 PM UTC-5, *ernie wrote:
> >> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:53:15 PM UTC-5, iommiRULES wrote:
> >>> When the GM says at a press conference "we are happy to have daniel back and look forward to building a team around him to win a super bowl"....so whether its a contract or a tag there you go he will be the Giants QB to open 2023.
> >> I really hope they do sign him to at least a 4 year deal. The guy has those certain qualities you want in your QB, smart and tough. He doesn't have Mahones' arm or Jackson's legs but he might just have Brady's mind-set. From what he's shown already, he deserves a contract worthy of a top NFL QB
> >
> > I say he has Elis demeaner off the feild, throws a prettier ball but his big game clutch factor, Elis best attribute, YTBD. I think his on the feild fire is more than Eli but less than Phil, more of a stocky build like Phil and of course he puts both those all time Giants greats to shame in the running dept. What we do not know yet is his ceiling because he had shit coaching for 2 years and this year he had the coaching but was playing with 3rd and 4th string WR, plus the oline is still a WIP but improving.
> It's not fair to him,but he'll always be compared to Eli; and those are
> some very big shoes to fill

Long way to go and unless he plays hardball and wants elite money he will have his shot.

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