On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 5:06:06 AM UTC-4, Ken Olson wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 10:59 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 8:45:10 PM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
> >> On 8/12/2021 9:34 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 9:16:34 AM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
> >>>> On 8/12/2021 9:41 AM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:34:14 PM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8/11/2021 10:54 PM, Eric Ramon wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 6:35:17 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 8/11/2021 9:18 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 7:01:19 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 3:35:28 PM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 1:51:30 PM UTC-4, miande...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is he working out to be the most inconsequential and 'blah' president ever?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> He's just kind of there...but it all seems kind of pointless and irrelevant.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Look at Republican rhetoric about him. They don't seem to think so
> >>>>>>>>>> "wouldn't you say we're in what appears to be a Marxist coup?"
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> so my brother-in-law is anti-covid vaccine. He says "How do we know these people are dying from Covid?" "I don't trust the numbers." "What about the Spanish researchers who say the vaccines are 99% graphene oxide?" "5G"
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I did a search of that graphene oxide thing, which is absurd but being pushed by nutcake rightwingers. It led me to some goofball named Stew Peters who has some kind of internet podcast called "Patriotically Correct". That's where I lasted a few seconds into an interview he did with Paul Gosar, another nutcake and that "Marxist..." thing is how Peters led off the interview. Of course, Gosar agreed.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So that's some powerful stuff. Biden has been in nearly 7 months and has succeeded in making this a Marxist nation. Hardly irrelevant!the reference in a college econ class.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The people most qualified to say who is or isn’t a Marxist are actual Marxists. I doubt actual Marxists think Biden is anything close to being a Marxist.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just a fellow traveler.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> what's that? Some leftover 1950s thing? HUAC?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I learned the term in a college econ class.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you think Biden has anything to do with Marxism, then you need to retake your Econ course. Apparently your memory is even worse than his.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Real Marxism? No. Intersects with Marxist policy? Yes.
> >>>> --
> >>>> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
> >>>
> >>> There’s nothing really Marxist about Biden. Just like trump wasn’t really a fascist. I’m sure you can find plenty of things to criticize these guys about, but calling them Marxist or fascist isn’t based in reality. It’s just name calling.
> >>>
> >> I'm just looking at how he seems to think about basic issues of the
> >> relationship between the government and the people. D's seem to want
> >> the people to be more and more dependent on the government.
> >> --
> >> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
> >
> > What about the people that want a strong military or a strong police force? Are they Marxists too? No, of course not. Just like Joe Biden isn’t a Marxist. Any kind of non-anarchist political system is going to involve a relationship between the government and the people. Marxism and Fascism are two extreme cases, not at all close to the policies proposed by the two major parties in the US. Maybe Biden is closer to Marxism than Trump, but that’s like saying you’re closer to China when you’re in Fort Worth than when you’re in Dallas. Technically true, but you’re really not that close to China either way. The difference isn’t worth talking about.
> >
> I agree with your DFW analogy.
> --
> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbM4Eabclz

Just some history related to the present

On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 5:06:06 AM UTC-4, Ken Olson wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 10:59 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 8:45:10 PM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
> >> On 8/12/2021 9:34 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 9:16:34 AM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
> >>>> On 8/12/2021 9:41 AM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:34:14 PM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8/11/2021 10:54 PM, Eric Ramon wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 6:35:17 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 8/11/2021 9:18 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 7:01:19 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 3:35:28 PM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 1:51:30 PM UTC-4, miande...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is he working out to be the most inconsequential and 'blah' president ever?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> He's just kind of there...but it all seems kind of pointless and irrelevant.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Look at Republican rhetoric about him. They don't seem to think so
> >>>>>>>>>> "wouldn't you say we're in what appears to be a Marxist coup?"
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> so my brother-in-law is anti-covid vaccine. He says "How do we know these people are dying from Covid?" "I don't trust the numbers." "What about the Spanish researchers who say the vaccines are 99% graphene oxide?" "5G"
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I did a search of that graphene oxide thing, which is absurd but being pushed by nutcake rightwingers. It led me to some goofball named Stew Peters who has some kind of internet podcast called "Patriotically Correct". That's where I lasted a few seconds into an interview he did with Paul Gosar, another nutcake and that "Marxist..." thing is how Peters led off the interview. Of course, Gosar agreed.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So that's some powerful stuff. Biden has been in nearly 7 months and has succeeded in making this a Marxist nation. Hardly irrelevant!the reference in a college econ class.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The people most qualified to say who is or isn’t a Marxist are actual Marxists. I doubt actual Marxists think Biden is anything close to being a Marxist.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just a fellow traveler.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> what's that? Some leftover 1950s thing? HUAC?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I learned the term in a college econ class.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you think Biden has anything to do with Marxism, then you need to retake your Econ course. Apparently your memory is even worse than his.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Real Marxism? No. Intersects with Marxist policy? Yes.
> >>>> --
> >>>> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
> >>>
> >>> There’s nothing really Marxist about Biden. Just like trump wasn’t really a fascist. I’m sure you can find plenty of things to criticize these guys about, but calling them Marxist or fascist isn’t based in reality. It’s just name calling.
> >>>
> >> I'm just looking at how he seems to think about basic issues of the
> >> relationship between the government and the people. D's seem to want
> >> the people to be more and more dependent on the government.
> >> --
> >> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
> >
> > What about the people that want a strong military or a strong police force? Are they Marxists too? No, of course not. Just like Joe Biden isn’t a Marxist. Any kind of non-anarchist political system is going to involve a relationship between the government and the people. Marxism and Fascism are two extreme cases, not at all close to the policies proposed by the two major parties in the US. Maybe Biden is closer to Marxism than Trump, but that’s like saying you’re closer to China when you’re in Fort Worth than when you’re in Dallas. Technically true, but you’re really not that close to China either way. The difference isn’t worth talking about.
> >
> I agree with your DFW analogy.
> --
> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvD3xSD9PQ
Some history

On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 5:06:06 AM UTC-4, Ken Olson wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 10:59 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 8:45:10 PM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
> >> On 8/12/2021 9:34 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 9:16:34 AM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
> >>>> On 8/12/2021 9:41 AM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:34:14 PM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8/11/2021 10:54 PM, Eric Ramon wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 6:35:17 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 8/11/2021 9:18 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 7:01:19 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 3:35:28 PM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 1:51:30 PM UTC-4, miande...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is he working out to be the most inconsequential and 'blah' president ever?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> He's just kind of there...but it all seems kind of pointless and irrelevant.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Look at Republican rhetoric about him. They don't seem to think so
> >>>>>>>>>> "wouldn't you say we're in what appears to be a Marxist coup?"
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> so my brother-in-law is anti-covid vaccine. He says "How do we know these people are dying from Covid?" "I don't trust the numbers." "What about the Spanish researchers who say the vaccines are 99% graphene oxide?" "5G"
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I did a search of that graphene oxide thing, which is absurd but being pushed by nutcake rightwingers. It led me to some goofball named Stew Peters who has some kind of internet podcast called "Patriotically Correct". That's where I lasted a few seconds into an interview he did with Paul Gosar, another nutcake and that "Marxist..." thing is how Peters led off the interview. Of course, Gosar agreed.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So that's some powerful stuff. Biden has been in nearly 7 months and has succeeded in making this a Marxist nation. Hardly irrelevant!the reference in a college econ class.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The people most qualified to say who is or isn’t a Marxist are actual Marxists. I doubt actual Marxists think Biden is anything close to being a Marxist.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just a fellow traveler.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> what's that? Some leftover 1950s thing? HUAC?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I learned the term in a college econ class.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you think Biden has anything to do with Marxism, then you need to retake your Econ course. Apparently your memory is even worse than his.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Real Marxism? No. Intersects with Marxist policy? Yes.
> >>>> --
> >>>> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
> >>>
> >>> There’s nothing really Marxist about Biden. Just like trump wasn’t really a fascist. I’m sure you can find plenty of things to criticize these guys about, but calling them Marxist or fascist isn’t based in reality. It’s just name calling.
> >>>
> >> I'm just looking at how he seems to think about basic issues of the
> >> relationship between the government and the people. D's seem to want
> >> the people to be more and more dependent on the government.
> >> --
> >> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
> >
> > What about the people that want a strong military or a strong police force? Are they Marxists too? No, of course not. Just like Joe Biden isn’t a Marxist. Any kind of non-anarchist political system is going to involve a relationship between the government and the people. Marxism and Fascism are two extreme cases, not at all close to the policies proposed by the two major parties in the US. Maybe Biden is closer to Marxism than Trump, but that’s like saying you’re closer to China when you’re in Fort Worth than when you’re in Dallas. Technically true, but you’re really not that close to China either way. The difference isn’t worth talking about.
> >
> I agree with your DFW analogy.
> --
> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
https://youtu.be/UbM4EabclzI

Some history

On 8/13/2021 10:38 AM, floaterjr wrote:
> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 5:06:06 AM UTC-4, Ken Olson wrote:
>> On 8/12/2021 10:59 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
>>> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 8:45:10 PM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
>>>> On 8/12/2021 9:34 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 9:16:34 AM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/12/2021 9:41 AM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:34:14 PM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/11/2021 10:54 PM, Eric Ramon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 6:35:17 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/11/2021 9:18 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 7:01:19 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 3:35:28 PM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 1:51:30 PM UTC-4, miande...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is he working out to be the most inconsequential and 'blah' president ever?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's just kind of there...but it all seems kind of pointless and irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look at Republican rhetoric about him. They don't seem to think so
>>>>>>>>>>>> "wouldn't you say we're in what appears to be a Marxist coup?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> so my brother-in-law is anti-covid vaccine. He says "How do we know these people are dying from Covid?" "I don't trust the numbers." "What about the Spanish researchers who say the vaccines are 99% graphene oxide?" "5G"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a search of that graphene oxide thing, which is absurd but being pushed by nutcake rightwingers. It led me to some goofball named Stew Peters who has some kind of internet podcast called "Patriotically Correct". That's where I lasted a few seconds into an interview he did with Paul Gosar, another nutcake and that "Marxist..." thing is how Peters led off the interview. Of course, Gosar agreed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So that's some powerful stuff. Biden has been in nearly 7 months and has succeeded in making this a Marxist nation. Hardly irrelevant!the reference in a college econ class.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The people most qualified to say who is or isn’t a Marxist are actual Marxists. I doubt actual Marxists think Biden is anything close to being a Marxist.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just a fellow traveler.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> what's that? Some leftover 1950s thing? HUAC?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I learned the term in a college econ class.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you think Biden has anything to do with Marxism, then you need to retake your Econ course. Apparently your memory is even worse than his.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Real Marxism? No. Intersects with Marxist policy? Yes.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
>>>>>
>>>>> There’s nothing really Marxist about Biden. Just like trump wasn’t really a fascist. I’m sure you can find plenty of things to criticize these guys about, but calling them Marxist or fascist isn’t based in reality. It’s just name calling.
>>>>>
>>>> I'm just looking at how he seems to think about basic issues of the
>>>> relationship between the government and the people. D's seem to want
>>>> the people to be more and more dependent on the government.
>>>> --
>>>> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
>>>
>>> What about the people that want a strong military or a strong police force? Are they Marxists too? No, of course not. Just like Joe Biden isn’t a Marxist. Any kind of non-anarchist political system is going to involve a relationship between the government and the people. Marxism and Fascism are two extreme cases, not at all close to the policies proposed by the two major parties in the US. Maybe Biden is closer to Marxism than Trump, but that’s like saying you’re closer to China when you’re in Fort Worth than when you’re in Dallas. Technically true, but you’re really not that close to China either way. The difference isn’t worth talking about.
>>>
>> I agree with your DFW analogy.
>> --
>> ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen
> https://youtu.be/UbM4EabclzI
>
> Some history
>

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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 6:45:10 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

> I'm just looking at how he seems to think about basic issues of the
> relationship between the government and the people. D's seem to want
> the people to be more and more dependent on the government.

It's a function of that all equality under the Constitution must be enforced with the weight of the law.

No enforcement, no equality, no matter what the "damn piece of paper" says.

Mike