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* Early Rivalry GamesJGibson
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Subject: Early Rivalry Games
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Of course, Iowa and Iowa State play in the headliner game this week for the Cyhawk trophy, and we also have New Mexico against New Mexico State, Houston vs. Rice, and BYU vs. Utah. But did you know we also have these stunning rivalry games:

North Carolina A&T at Duke
Alabama State at Auburn
South Carolina at East Carolina
Kennesaw State at Georgia Tech
Tulsa at Oklahoma State
Florida at South Florida
South Carolina State at Clemson
SE Louisiana at Louisiana Tech
Eastern Kentucky at Louisville
Texas Southern at Baylor
Stephen F. Austin at Texas Tech
Memphis at Arkansas State
Howard at Maryland
McNeese at LSU
Cal Poly at Fresno State

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Subject: Re: Early Rivalry Games
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On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> Of course, Iowa and Iowa State play in the headliner game

lol.....no.

the headliner game this week is Oregon at Ohio State. Iowa/ISU is a game of regional import that maybe a few people outside that area may have interest in.

Overall it's a fairly slow weekend in terms of 'big games', but the headline game is clearly the Ohio State game. Then next week it's Bama at Florida first(auburn-penn state second). last week it was Georgia/Clemson(alabama-miami second).

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On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> Of course, Iowa and Iowa State play in the headliner game this week for the Cyhawk trophy

oh you may be referring to headliner game *just* between rivalry games....if so yeah this is right of course. It wasn't clear to me whether that reference was to just rivalry games
or overall.

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On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:38:58 PM UTC-5, miande...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> > Of course, Iowa and Iowa State play in the headliner game this week for the Cyhawk trophy
> oh you may be referring to headliner game *just* between rivalry games....if so yeah this is right of course. It wasn't clear to me whether that reference was to just rivalry games
> or overall.

Its a top TEN matchup. If this was two SEC teams, you'd be talking about national champion possibilities.

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On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> Of course, Iowa and Iowa State play in the headliner game this week for the Cyhawk trophy, and we also have New Mexico against New Mexico State, Houston vs. Rice, and BYU vs. Utah. But did you know we also have these stunning rivalry games:
>
> North Carolina A&T at Duke
> Alabama State at Auburn
> South Carolina at East Carolina
> Kennesaw State at Georgia Tech
> Tulsa at Oklahoma State
> Florida at South Florida
> South Carolina State at Clemson
> SE Louisiana at Louisiana Tech
> Eastern Kentucky at Louisville
> Texas Southern at Baylor
> Stephen F. Austin at Texas Tech
> Memphis at Arkansas State
> Howard at Maryland
> McNeese at LSU
> Cal Poly at Fresno State

Stanford at Southern California is a rivalry.

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Subject: Re: Early Rivalry Games
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On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 1:38:58 PM UTC-4, miande...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> > Of course, Iowa and Iowa State play in the headliner game this week for the Cyhawk trophy
> oh you may be referring to headliner game *just* between rivalry games....if so yeah this is right of course. It wasn't clear to me whether that reference was to just rivalry games
> or overall.

That's what I meant but let's compare:

#12 at #3 with #3 being a 14.5 point favorite
#10 at #9 with #9 being a 4.5 point favorite

Yeah, if I had to only choose one, I'd watch the second one. Of course, what I actually watch is going to be governed by several external factors.

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On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 10:03:45 PM UTC-4, unclejr wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> > Of course, Iowa and Iowa State play in the headliner game this week for the Cyhawk trophy, and we also have New Mexico against New Mexico State, Houston vs. Rice, and BYU vs. Utah. But did you know we also have these stunning rivalry games:
> >
> > North Carolina A&T at Duke
> > Alabama State at Auburn
> > South Carolina at East Carolina
> > Kennesaw State at Georgia Tech
> > Tulsa at Oklahoma State
> > Florida at South Florida
> > South Carolina State at Clemson
> > SE Louisiana at Louisiana Tech
> > Eastern Kentucky at Louisville
> > Texas Southern at Baylor
> > Stephen F. Austin at Texas Tech
> > Memphis at Arkansas State
> > Howard at Maryland
> > McNeese at LSU
> > Cal Poly at Fresno State
> Stanford at Southern California is a rivalry.

At best, #3 for Southern California and #2 for Stanford. The ones on top are all #1 for at least one of the two teams involved, and the rest of this list, well...

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 by: unclejr - Wed, 8 Sep 2021 14:00 UTC

On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 8:59:00 AM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 10:03:45 PM UTC-4, unclejr wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> > > Of course, Iowa and Iowa State play in the headliner game this week for the Cyhawk trophy, and we also have New Mexico against New Mexico State, Houston vs. Rice, and BYU vs. Utah. But did you know we also have these stunning rivalry games:
> > >
> > > North Carolina A&T at Duke
> > > Alabama State at Auburn
> > > South Carolina at East Carolina
> > > Kennesaw State at Georgia Tech
> > > Tulsa at Oklahoma State
> > > Florida at South Florida
> > > South Carolina State at Clemson
> > > SE Louisiana at Louisiana Tech
> > > Eastern Kentucky at Louisville
> > > Texas Southern at Baylor
> > > Stephen F. Austin at Texas Tech
> > > Memphis at Arkansas State
> > > Howard at Maryland
> > > McNeese at LSU
> > > Cal Poly at Fresno State
> > Stanford at Southern California is a rivalry.
> At best, #3 for Southern California and #2 for Stanford. The ones on top are all #1 for at least one of the two teams involved, and the rest of this list, well...

OK. I see your logic here. This will be the 101st meeting between the two schools' football teams.

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On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 8:58:04 AM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 1:38:58 PM UTC-4, miande...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> > > Of course, Iowa and Iowa State play in the headliner game this week for the Cyhawk trophy
> > oh you may be referring to headliner game *just* between rivalry games.....if so yeah this is right of course. It wasn't clear to me whether that reference was to just rivalry games
> > or overall.
> That's what I meant but let's compare:
>
> #12 at #3 with #3 being a 14.5 point favorite
> #10 at #9 with #9 being a 4.5 point favorite
>
> Yeah, if I had to only choose one, I'd watch the second one. Of course, what I actually watch is going to be governed by several external factors.

Ohio St is my most confident victor in the cfpool this week. My least confident pick is Tenn over Pitt. I think the Johnny Majors Bowl could be a low key good game this week. Not in terms of impact on playoff rankings, obviously, but in terms of a close matchup between two somewhat competent teams.

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On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 7:25:39 PM UTC-5, jimbr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:38:58 PM UTC-5, miande...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> > > Of course, Iowa and Iowa State play in the headliner game this week for the Cyhawk trophy
> > oh you may be referring to headliner game *just* between rivalry games....if so yeah this is right of course. It wasn't clear to me whether that reference was to just rivalry games
> > or overall.
> Its a top TEN matchup. If this was two SEC teams, you'd be talking about national champion possibilities.

Who cares about AP rankings at this point anyways??

That said, it is the second best game of the week imo. So yeah I like that game. Texas has more marquee of course and there is genuine interest in seeing if they are going to actually be good, but Arkansas is not
very good so even though it is only like a 6.5 pt line that takes away from it. So I have ISU-Iowa above the texas game. So I never said Iowa-ISU is a 'bad' game; so not sure where your complaint is. Oregon-Ohio State is just
a better more marquee game because it involves Ohio State and between the four teams being discussed(Iowa, ISU, Oregon, tOSU), Ohio State is clearly the alpha so that game gets top billing......

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 by: michael anderson - Wed, 8 Sep 2021 16:31 UTC

On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 7:25:39 PM UTC-5, jimbr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:38:58 PM UTC-5, miande...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> > > Of course, Iowa and Iowa State play in the headliner game this week for the Cyhawk trophy
> > oh you may be referring to headliner game *just* between rivalry games....if so yeah this is right of course. It wasn't clear to me whether that reference was to just rivalry games
> > or overall.
> Its a top TEN matchup. If this was two SEC teams, you'd be talking about national champion possibilities.

Also Jim, I don't know if you have been paying attention the last month or so, but the 'if this was two sec teams' argument isn't a very good one because....well....of course if it were two
sec teams it would be a bigger deal- the sec has come to dominate the sport and that's got so many people in a fury. That's what triggered this 'alliance' nonsense. The entire college football
news cycle since the Oklahoma/Texas news has been how the SEC is no longer just a top conference but really defines the landscape of college football going forward.

So given that, of course when two top sec teams play its going to be a defining game. For better or worse, that's our future.....

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On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> Of course, Iowa and Iowa State play in the headliner game this week for the Cyhawk trophy, and we also have New Mexico against New Mexico State, Houston vs. Rice, and BYU vs. Utah. But did you know we also have these stunning rivalry games:
>
> North Carolina A&T at Duke
> Alabama State at Auburn
> South Carolina at East Carolina
> Kennesaw State at Georgia Tech
> Tulsa at Oklahoma State
> Florida at South Florida
> South Carolina State at Clemson
> SE Louisiana at Louisiana Tech
> Eastern Kentucky at Louisville
> Texas Southern at Baylor
> Stephen F. Austin at Texas Tech
> Memphis at Arkansas State
> Howard at Maryland
> McNeese at LSU
> Cal Poly at Fresno State

Another rivalry of note this weekend is the Southern Heritage Classic featuring Jackson St (coached by Deion “Prime Time” Sanders) and Tennessee St (coached by Eddie “Heisman House” George).

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On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:07:21 AM UTC-5, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> Ohio St is my most confident victor in the cfpool this week.

I are dumn.

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On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 1:26:34 PM UTC-7, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:07:21 AM UTC-5, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> > Ohio St is my most confident victor in the cfpool this week.
> I are dumn.

hey, I live in Portland, right? In the pac-8 prediction contest (maybe it's pac-10...I'm sure it's not pac-12) I sadly (because it made me sad) predicted a final score of Ohio State 41, Oregon 17.

I also picked Texas A&M over Colorado (Buffs currently up 7-0) and TCU over Cal (Cal up 12-0 now). Maybe the Pac-12 isn't quite as bad as we thought. Or maybe Ohio State isn't as good. They struggled last week against Minnesota, now this today. Still, I'm recovering, calming down now. This college football is nerve-wracking! (except for Alabama fans)

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On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 4:36:00 PM UTC-4, Eric Ramon wrote:
> On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 1:26:34 PM UTC-7, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:07:21 AM UTC-5, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> > > Ohio St is my most confident victor in the cfpool this week.
> > I are dumn.
> hey, I live in Portland, right? In the pac-8 prediction contest (maybe it's pac-10...I'm sure it's not pac-12) I sadly (because it made me sad) predicted a final score of Ohio State 41, Oregon 17.
>
> I also picked Texas A&M over Colorado (Buffs currently up 7-0) and TCU over Cal (Cal up 12-0 now). Maybe the Pac-12 isn't quite as bad as we thought.. Or maybe Ohio State isn't as good. They struggled last week against Minnesota, now this today. Still, I'm recovering, calming down now. This college football is nerve-wracking! (except for Alabama fans)

I strive to pity the poor Alabama fans with their drama free seasons.

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