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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 21:25 UTC

Yes, there's a Women's NIT - for that matter, there's a women's basketball tournament below that as well, but that's beside the point. On Sunday, West Virginia was announced as one of the teams in the Women's NIT. On Monday, its AD announced that it was declining the bid, because of injuries and "athletes set to enter the transfer portal" - in other words, "Why the hell should I play in some meaningless tournament and risk what's left of my career before I can transfer to another school?"

What does this have to do with football? Simple - replace "Women's NIT" with some lower tier bowl game.

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 by: Michael Falkner - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 16:35 UTC

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 2:25:56 PM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> Yes, there's a Women's NIT - for that matter, there's a women's basketball tournament below that as well, but that's beside the point. On Sunday, West Virginia was announced as one of the teams in the Women's NIT. On Monday, its AD announced that it was declining the bid, because of injuries and "athletes set to enter the transfer portal" - in other words, "Why the hell should I play in some meaningless tournament and risk what's left of my career before I can transfer to another school?"
>
> What does this have to do with football? Simple - replace "Women's NIT" with some lower tier bowl game.

I'm surprised some upper-tier non-CFP bowls haven't met the same fate!

Mike

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> > What does this have to do with football? Simple - replace "Women's NIT" with some lower tier bowl game.
> I'm surprised some upper-tier non-CFP bowls haven't met the same fate!

How many of those are there?

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On Tuesday, March 15, 2022 at 11:59:13 AM UTC-5, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> > > What does this have to do with football? Simple - replace "Women's NIT" with some lower tier bowl game.
> > I'm surprised some upper-tier non-CFP bowls haven't met the same fate!
> How many of those are there?

One. The Rose Bowel.

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 by: RoddyMcCorley - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 22:30 UTC

On 3/14/2022 5:25 PM, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> Yes, there's a Women's NIT - for that matter, there's a women's basketball tournament below that as well, but that's beside the point. On Sunday, West Virginia was announced as one of the teams in the Women's NIT. On Monday, its AD announced that it was declining the bid, because of injuries and "athletes set to enter the transfer portal" - in other words, "Why the hell should I play in some meaningless tournament and risk what's left of my career before I can transfer to another school?"
>
> What does this have to do with football? Simple - replace "Women's NIT" with some lower tier bowl game.

Not at all comparable. Most men's and women's teams will accept bids to
the NIT, especially when played at campus sites. Loos like, at least for
the men, the semis and finals are at MSG. A nice NY trip.

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practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

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On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 5:25:56 PM UTC-4, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> Yes, there's a Women's NIT - for that matter, there's a women's basketball tournament below that as well, but that's beside the point. On Sunday, West Virginia was announced as one of the teams in the Women's NIT. On Monday, its AD announced that it was declining the bid, because of injuries and "athletes set to enter the transfer portal" - in other words, "Why the hell should I play in some meaningless tournament and risk what's left of my career before I can transfer to another school?"
>
> What does this have to do with football? Simple - replace "Women's NIT" with some lower tier bowl game.

'Transfer portal?'

I haven't thought lower-tier sports, especially non-revenue, would have much interaction with the transfer portal. Does cross country, diving etc. have many people navigating the portal?

-TE

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On Tuesday, March 15, 2022 at 1:20:14 PM UTC-7, unclejr wrote:

> One. The Rose Bowel.

That's New Year's Six.

I'd probably say, at the least, the Hangover Bowls. Maybe a couple others.

Mike

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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Wed, 16 Mar 2022 01:09 UTC

> > Yes, there's a Women's NIT - for that matter, there's a women's basketball tournament below that as well, but that's beside the point. On Sunday, West Virginia was announced as one of the teams in the Women's NIT. On Monday, its AD announced that it was declining the bid, because of injuries and "athletes set to enter the transfer portal" - in other words, "Why the hell should I play in some meaningless tournament and risk what's left of my career before I can transfer to another school?"
>
> 'Transfer portal?'
>
> I haven't thought lower-tier sports, especially non-revenue, would have much interaction with the transfer portal. Does cross country, diving etc. have many people navigating the portal?

I don't know about "many," but there are quite a few transfers, and not just in Division I. Just because it's not a "money sport" doesn't mean somebody wouldn't switch schools to compete for a better coach if they had the opportunity. I remember a story about a Division II women's basketball (IIRC) player from one of the Alaska schools being denied a transfer to a school in Hawaii. (Until now, a school could "veto" a transfer; the player could still transfer, but the one-year sit-out rule applied.) You didn't hear about it much for women's basketball as it had the same "one year sit-out, no exceptions" rule as for football and men's basketball.

There are plenty of opportunities for women to make money playing pro basketball, but they have to be seen first - and women's basketball has always been a case of "the usual suspects."

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