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 by: xyzzy - Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:19 UTC

…all final four teams have at least one NCAA championship under their belts
already?

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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Fri, 1 Apr 2022 23:14 UTC

2018 had Villanova, Michigan, Kansas, and Loyola-Chicago (1963)

2015 had Duke, Wisconsin, Kentucky, and Michigan State, unless you're one of these people that thinks Wisconsin's 1941 title "shouldn't count because the NIT was a better tournament back then"

2014 had Connecticut, Kentucky, Florida, and Wisconsin

2012 had Kentucky, Kansas, Louisville, and Ohio State (1960), although technically Louisville was retconned out of the tournament and "Vacated University" wouldn't win its first title until 2013

2009 had North Carolina, Michigan State, Connecticut, and Villanova

2007 had Florida (first title in 2006), Georgetown, Ohio State, and UCLA

I think that's all of them since 2000

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 by: JGibson - Sat, 2 Apr 2022 00:33 UTC

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 7:14:39 PM UTC-4, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> 2018 had Villanova, Michigan, Kansas, and Loyola-Chicago (1963)
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> 2015 had Duke, Wisconsin, Kentucky, and Michigan State, unless you're one of these people that thinks Wisconsin's 1941 title "shouldn't count because the NIT was a better tournament back then"

Just looked up the '41 NCAA tournament and NIT. Did not realize it broke down the way it did:
NIT: Yankee Conference Champion & six independents plus Westminster, who I could not find in the standings
NCAA: Champions of the Big Ten, Ivy League, Mountain States Athletic Conference, MVC, Pacific Coast Conference, Southern Conference, SWC, and one independent.
Champions of the Big Six (predecessor to the Big 8) and the SEC played in neither tournament.

So, my thought is yes, Wisconsin's championship should count.

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 by: JGibson - Sat, 2 Apr 2022 00:37 UTC

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:19:18 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
> …all final four teams have at least one NCAA championship under their belts
> already?
>

The year Duke won their second title the final four was Duke (1991), Michigan (1989), Indiana (1986), and Cincinnati (1963), parentheses being most recent.

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