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* (Warning: On-Topic) 2022 Proposed Rules ChangesThe NOTBCS Guy
+- Re: (Warning: On-Topic) 2022 Proposed Rules ChangesJohnny RSFCootball
+* Re: (Warning: On-Topic) 2022 Proposed Rules Changesunclejr
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|`- Re: (Warning: On-Topic) 2022 Proposed Rules ChangesThe NOTBCS Guy
`- Re: (Warning: On-Topic) 2022 Proposed Rules ChangesThe NOTBCS Guy

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Subject: (Warning: On-Topic) 2022 Proposed Rules Changes
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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Sat, 5 Mar 2022 18:58 UTC

Here are the proposed college football rules changes for 2022 (the NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel will make the final approval on 4/20):

When targeting is called in the second half, the "first half of the player's next game" suspension may be appealed to the NCAA coordinator of officials, who can remove the penalty if the targeting call was incorrect.

Defensive holding is now an automatic first down, in addition to the 10 yards.

The "Kenny Pickett rule" (when a QB fakes a slide in order to keep defenders from being called for contacting a "defenseless player," the ball is ruled down at that point) is now an official rule. Note that it was used in last season's bowl games and playoffs.

A school or conference may report what it feels was someone taking a dive to stop the clock for an injury time-out. However, only the conferences may impose punishment.

Blocking below the waist inside the tackle box by linemen and "stationary backs" is now legal.

No part of either of a player's legs may be visible (i.e. the socks must reach the pants).

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Subject: Re: (Warning: On-Topic) 2022 Proposed Rules Changes
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 by: Johnny RSFCootball - Sat, 5 Mar 2022 19:09 UTC

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 12:58:55 PM UTC-6, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> However, only the conferences may impose punishment.
>

The SEC Commish is looking for a wrist slapped on Amazon for when one of the marquee programs gets reported.

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 by: unclejr - Sat, 5 Mar 2022 22:46 UTC

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 12:58:55 PM UTC-6, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> No part of either of a player's legs may be visible (i.e. the socks must reach the pants).

What's the point of this rule?

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unclejr <watsona64@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 12:58:55 PM UTC-6, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
>> No part of either of a player's legs may be visible (i.e. the socks must reach the pants).
>
> What's the point of this rule?
>

Hide tats?

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liberal personality.” — Altie

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 by: unclejr - Sat, 5 Mar 2022 23:02 UTC

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 4:49:27 PM UTC-6, xyzzy wrote:
> unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 12:58:55 PM UTC-6, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> >> No part of either of a player's legs may be visible (i.e. the socks must reach the pants).
> >
> > What's the point of this rule?
> >
> Hide tats?
>
> --
> “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
> liberal personality.” — Altie

If that were the case, then all players would have to wear arm coverings too.

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 by: Michael Falkner - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 04:17 UTC

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 10:58:55 AM UTC-8, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> Here are the proposed college football rules changes for 2022 (the NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel will make the final approval on 4/20):
>
> When targeting is called in the second half, the "first half of the player's next game" suspension may be appealed to the NCAA coordinator of officials, who can remove the penalty if the targeting call was incorrect.

What punishment is there for the officials if THAT is called, though? Because to get the ejection, it has to get at least through a video review.

> Defensive holding is now an automatic first down, in addition to the 10 yards.

10 now? That's the only difference...
> The "Kenny Pickett rule" (when a QB fakes a slide in order to keep defenders from being called for contacting a "defenseless player," the ball is ruled down at that point) is now an official rule. Note that it was used in last season's bowl games and playoffs.

Basically the same rule the pros are using. Ball is down at the beginning of the slide.
> A school or conference may report what it feels was someone taking a dive to stop the clock for an injury time-out. However, only the conferences may impose punishment.

Cool with this.
> Blocking below the waist inside the tackle box by linemen and "stationary backs" is now legal.

Not sure about this.

Been also hearing of the possibility that they might actually get rid of the "clock stops to reset the chains" for a 1st down in the last 2 minutes. Not only do I think that would be a bad idea, I think it'd be better if that were a universal rule at all levels. Give the offense a benefit for getting the line to gain.

Mike

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 by: Michael Falkner - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 04:17 UTC

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 3:02:08 PM UTC-8, unclejr wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 4:49:27 PM UTC-6, xyzzy wrote:
> > unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 12:58:55 PM UTC-6, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> > >> No part of either of a player's legs may be visible (i.e. the socks must reach the pants).
> > >
> > > What's the point of this rule?
> > >
> > Hide tats?

> If that were the case, then all players would have to wear arm coverings too.

Would not be surprised if we get there soon too.

Mike

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 by: RoddyMcCorley - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 06:09 UTC

On 3/5/2022 5:46 PM, unclejr wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 12:58:55 PM UTC-6, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
>> No part of either of a player's legs may be visible (i.e. the socks must reach the pants).
>
> What's the point of this rule?

To cover the Mark Emmert Sucks tattoos.

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practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Thu, 10 Mar 2022 17:12 UTC

> > Here are the proposed college football rules changes for 2022 (the NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel will make the final approval on 4/20):
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> > When targeting is called in the second half, the "first half of the player's next game" suspension may be appealed to the NCAA coordinator of officials, who can remove the penalty if the targeting call was incorrect.
> What punishment is there for the officials if THAT is called, though? Because to get the ejection, it has to get at least through a video review.

The player is still ejected for the remainder of the game in which it was called - that, plus the 15-yard penalty.

Actually, this rule may already be in effect for conference games; the 2021 rules say that the conference may ask for an appeal, and can reinstate the player for the first half of his next game if the decision is overturned.

> > Defensive holding is now an automatic first down, in addition to the 10 yards.
> 10 now? That's the only difference...

Right now, it's not an automatic first down unless it was done on or before a forward pass. Also, if the hold is not considered a "personal foul," it is 10 yards instead of 15.
> Been also hearing of the possibility that they might actually get rid of the "clock stops to reset the chains" for a 1st down in the last 2 minutes. Not only do I think that would be a bad idea, I think it'd be better if that were a universal rule at all levels. Give the offense a benefit for getting the line to gain.

Not happening - at least, not this season.

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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 14:47 UTC

> When targeting is called in the second half, the "first half of the player's next game" suspension may be appealed to the NCAA coordinator of officials, who can remove the penalty if the targeting call was incorrect.
>
> Defensive holding is now an automatic first down, in addition to the 10 yards.
>
> The "Kenny Pickett rule" (when a QB fakes a slide in order to keep defenders from being called for contacting a "defenseless player," the ball is ruled down at that point) is now an official rule. Note that it was used in last season's bowl games and playoffs.
>
> A school or conference may report what it feels was someone taking a dive to stop the clock for an injury time-out. However, only the conferences may impose punishment.
>
> Blocking below the waist inside the tackle box by linemen and "stationary backs" is now legal.
>
> No part of either of a player's legs may be visible (i.e. the socks must reach the pants).

All of these except maybe for the "socks must reach the pants" rule have been confirmed, and will be in use in the 2022 season. The NCAA press release did not mention this one way or the other.

Also note that the defensive holding rule means that it is a first down on all plays. The old rule was, the hold had to be on a pass play, past the line of scrimmage, and occur while or before the pass was in the air, in order for it to be an automatic first down. (The rules also say that defensive holding "can be" 15 yards, but it doesn't say under what conditions.)

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