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 by: TE - Mon, 9 May 2022 16:43 UTC

On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:57:43 AM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
> https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/33856428/wichita-state-shockers-fire-athletic-director-darron-boatright-amid-criticism-school-compete-nil-market

Depressing.

-TE

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Subject: Re: NIL claims first AD
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 by: Michael Falkner - Mon, 9 May 2022 19:24 UTC

On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 6:57:43 AM UTC-7, JGibson wrote:
> https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/33856428/wichita-state-shockers-fire-athletic-director-darron-boatright-amid-criticism-school-compete-nil-market

They're unable to compete, I sense?

If that's the case, it's going to be a lot more than the AD they're losing soon.

Mike

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TE <randorwell@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:57:43 AM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
>> https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/33856428/wichita-state-shockers-fire-athletic-director-darron-boatright-amid-criticism-school-compete-nil-market
>
> Depressing.
>
> -TE
>

If they think the AD is the problem they are setting themselves up for
disappointment

--
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liberal personality.” — Altie

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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:22:24 PM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:

> If they think the AD is the problem they are setting themselves up for
> disappointment

So how long before a Division I school calls it quits completely due to this?

Mike

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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 8:43:30 PM UTC-5, Michael Falkner wrote:
> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:22:24 PM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:
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> > If they think the AD is the problem they are setting themselves up for
> > disappointment
> So how long before a Division I school calls it quits completely due to this?
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> Mike
and potentially "how many"

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 by: Michael Falkner - Tue, 10 May 2022 22:34 UTC

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 9:45:57 AM UTC-7, mercellusb wrote:
> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 8:43:30 PM UTC-5, Michael Falkner wrote:
> > On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:22:24 PM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:
> >
> > > If they think the AD is the problem they are setting themselves up for
> > > disappointment
> > So how long before a Division I school calls it quits completely due to this?

> and potentially "how many"

Exactly. That's the second question.

The fact is: If you want to make the dough, there are only going to be a certain number of spots. And I don't see a lot of desire to play where it's not going to be fruitful, especially with an increasing number of places to play otherwise in basketball (Overtime Elite, the G-League Ignite, etc.).

If football can even adopt THAT model (putting a young building team in the USFL, for example)...

Mike

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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Wed, 11 May 2022 16:39 UTC

> The fact is: If you want to make the dough, there are only going to be a certain number of spots. And I don't see a lot of desire to play where it's not going to be fruitful, especially with an increasing number of places to play otherwise in basketball (Overtime Elite, the G-League Ignite, etc.).
>
> If football can even adopt THAT model (putting a young building team in the USFL, for example)...

Football could do it tomorrow if it wanted to, with the "superconference" concept. The only differences from my impression of how you expect that to work appear to be:
(a) There is no association between any particular "college" team and any NFL team - this isn't MLB.
(b) There is no drafting of high school players; they play wherever they want, although the college teams may agree to some roster limit.
(c) There does not have to be a team near each NFL team's city - you're not going to be able to do this without at least one team in Alabama. Besides, even baseball doesn't do this; Milwaukee's AAA team is in Nashville, and the Dodgers' is in Oklahoma City.

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Subject: Re: NIL claims first AD
From: darkstar...@gmail.com (Michael Falkner)
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 by: Michael Falkner - Wed, 11 May 2022 23:32 UTC

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 9:39:41 AM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:

> Football could do it tomorrow if it wanted to, with the "superconference" concept. The only differences from my impression of how you expect that to work appear to be:
> (a) There is no association between any particular "college" team and any NFL team - this isn't MLB.

I'd semi-expect it on an association, also to try to get it to 32 "colleges" and spread it out, otherwise you'd have 10 schools in the Southeast and maybe 6-10 otherwise.

> (b) There is no drafting of high school players; they play wherever they want, although the college teams may agree to some roster limit.

You could see programs collapse if there wasn't, and this is why I'm not 100% sure on part (a), though I understand where you are coming from in that regard.

> (c) There does not have to be a team near each NFL team's city - you're not going to be able to do this without at least one team in Alabama. Besides, even baseball doesn't do this; Milwaukee's AAA team is in Nashville, and the Dodgers' is in Oklahoma City.

You see, that's the thing which makes your case for (a) more solid. Who does Carolina get? Atlanta gets Georgia and to get a team in Alabama you'd almost have to leap over.

Mike

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