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 by: Irish Mike - Fri, 4 Nov 2022 17:34 UTC

At this point it looks like America will win
this coming Tuesday's mid-term election
and the Republicans will take back control
of the House! That means we can finally begin
to defend ourselves against the massive damage
that has been inflicted on us by the radical left wing
Biden administration. And, we will finally
see Nancy Pelosi's vile dishonest old butt
kicked to the curb!

It is too early to predict the election out come in the Senate
but we can pray that the Republicans win control
there as well. That would truly be a blessing for all
working class American citizens. And the evil, lying
crooked sleaze bag Chuck Schumer would also be
kicked to the curb where he can rot with Pelosi!

But even if the Republicans only win the
House it will still be a wonderful day for America!

Irish Mike

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Subject: Re: America Finally Wins!
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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Fri, 4 Nov 2022 21:53 UTC

There was a time when having both houses of Congress controlled by the party not in the White House was a reasonably good thing.

Maybe if whoever is the new Speaker of the House at least bends the Hastert rule, America may "win," but if the Republicans do also control the Senate and are able to force a rich-and-corporations-friendly budget onto Biden's desk, does he sign it, or are we in for who knows how many months of "continuing resolutions" or even an outright government shutdown?

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 by: Michael Falkner - Fri, 4 Nov 2022 22:14 UTC

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 2:53:39 PM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> There was a time when having both houses of Congress controlled by the party not in the White House was a reasonably good thing.
>
> Maybe if whoever is the new Speaker of the House at least bends the Hastert rule, America may "win," but if the Republicans do also control the Senate and are able to force a rich-and-corporations-friendly budget onto Biden's desk, does he sign it, or are we in for who knows how many months of "continuing resolutions" or even an outright government shutdown?

This will be a shutdown, as designed.

I'd actually go further and shut it down January 3, with the demand Biden be ousted. Forget impeachment, because you won't get the 67 conviction votes.

Mike

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 by: Michael Falkner - Fri, 4 Nov 2022 22:14 UTC

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 10:34:38 AM UTC-7, Irish Mike wrote:

> But even if the Republicans only win the
> House it will still be a wonderful day for America!

Over my dead body, and you best be ready to arrange it soon.

Mike

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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Fri, 4 Nov 2022 23:09 UTC

> > Maybe if whoever is the new Speaker of the House at least bends the Hastert rule, America may "win," but if the Republicans do also control the Senate and are able to force a rich-and-corporations-friendly budget onto Biden's desk, does he sign it, or are we in for who knows how many months of "continuing resolutions" or even an outright government shutdown?
> This will be a shutdown, as designed.
>
> I'd actually go further and shut it down January 3, with the demand Biden be ousted. Forget impeachment, because you won't get the 67 conviction votes.

The only way the government shuts down on January 3 is if there is another Continuing Resolution passed that runs out on that date. Right now, unless the current Congress either gets a budget passed or kicks the can down the road again, the government shuts down at midnight on December 17 (i.e. one second after 11:59:59 PM on 12/16).

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 by: TE - Fri, 4 Nov 2022 23:45 UTC

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 5:53:39 PM UTC-4, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> There was a time when having both houses of Congress controlled by the party not in the White House was a reasonably good thing.
>
> Maybe if whoever is the new Speaker of the House at least bends the Hastert rule, America may "win,"
> but if the Republicans do also control the Senate and are able to force a rich-and-corporations-friendly
> budget onto Biden's desk, does he sign it, or are we in for who knows how many months of "continuing
> resolutions" or even an outright government shutdown?

Your rhetoric is past it's "sell by" date. The corporations are with the Dems, especially high-tech
who they conspire with to suppress speech unfriendly to the left.

-TE

In the span of a few days, he called Kamala Harris a “great president,” got disoriented at an event on the White House lawn, claimed that his student loan giveaway was a law passed by Congress not his own executive order, misstated the name of Britain’s new prime minister, suffered another embarrassing teleprompter failure, appeared to nearly drift off into sleep during a TV interview, got confused about how to exit a stage he’d climbed up just moments before.
A neutral press would be demanding answers from the White House about Biden’s condition. They be talking to experts about the grave risks of having a president suffering from dementia in charge. They’d have their pollsters ask the public about its concerns with Biden’s mental health.

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 by: Irish Mike - Sat, 5 Nov 2022 00:18 UTC

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 7:45:40 PM UTC-4, TE wrote:
> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 5:53:39 PM UTC-4, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> > There was a time when having both houses of Congress controlled by the party not in the White House was a reasonably good thing.
> >
> > Maybe if whoever is the new Speaker of the House at least bends the Hastert rule, America may "win,"
> > but if the Republicans do also control the Senate and are able to force a rich-and-corporations-friendly
> > budget onto Biden's desk, does he sign it, or are we in for who knows how many months of "continuing
> > resolutions" or even an outright government shutdown?
> Your rhetoric is past it's "sell by" date. The corporations are with the Dems, especially high-tech
> who they conspire with to suppress speech unfriendly to the left.
>
> -TE

Absolutely, but don't forget to give George Soros credit for the
$hundreds of millions he has donated to left wing groups to
help destroy America's criminal justice system.

Also, if the Republicans do take back the House & Senate look
for the Democrats to start pressuring Biden to step down
for "health reasons".

Irish Mike

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 by: Michael Falkner - Sat, 5 Nov 2022 05:34 UTC

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 4:09:52 PM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> > I'd actually go further and shut it down January 3, with the demand Biden be ousted. Forget impeachment, because you won't get the 67 conviction votes.
> The only way the government shuts down on January 3 is if there is another Continuing Resolution passed that runs out on that date. Right now, unless the current Congress either gets a budget passed or kicks the can down the road again, the government shuts down at midnight on December 17 (i.e. one second after 11:59:59 PM on 12/16).

I disagree.

Rescind consent and shut down the government until Trump is restored.

We'll know how serious they are -- if they put McCarthy in as Speaker, people like TE and Irish Mike better BOHICA, because not enough is going to be done.

Mike

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 by: Michael Falkner - Sat, 5 Nov 2022 05:35 UTC

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 5:18:16 PM UTC-7, Irish Mike wrote:

> Also, if the Republicans do take back the House & Senate look
> for the Democrats to start pressuring Biden to step down
> for "health reasons".

I wouldn't go "health reasons".

But if the Reps take the House and Senate, Biden MUST RESIGN.

Mike

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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Sat, 5 Nov 2022 16:17 UTC

> > > I'd actually go further and shut it down January 3, with the demand Biden be ousted. Forget impeachment, because you won't get the 67 conviction votes.
> > The only way the government shuts down on January 3 is if there is another Continuing Resolution passed that runs out on that date. Right now, unless the current Congress either gets a budget passed or kicks the can down the road again, the government shuts down at midnight on December 17 (i.e. one second after 11:59:59 PM on 12/16).
> I disagree.
>
> Rescind consent and shut down the government until Trump is restored.

Two small problems with that.

First, as has been explained to you over and over, Congress has no authority to "rescind consent" - at least, not without changing the laws, which would require Biden's signature, which obviously isn't going to happen. Besides, do you honestly think that even one, much less five, Supreme Court justices would allow it? Every college outside of "the 32 attached to NFL teams with players drafted out of high school and not allowed to transfer except through the NFL trade process" dropping football except as whatever it is you define as "a club sport" (and if that means "no scholarships," then every NCAA Division III football team is already a "club team") is a done deal compared to this.

Second, "shutting down the government" doesn't shut down Congress, or the Executive branch - if they rescind Biden and Harris before January 3, then Nancy Pelosi is acting President. Otherwise, how could the Congress pass a budget that ends the shutdown if Congress itself is shut down?

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 by: Michael Falkner - Sat, 5 Nov 2022 20:32 UTC

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 9:17:33 AM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:

> First, as has been explained to you over and over, Congress has no authority to "rescind consent" - at least, not without changing the laws,

Given this Supreme Court, I would disagree with you -- AND the fact that the entire idea of this is to force Biden to sue into a hostile Court...

Which gets your next question:

> which would require Biden's signature, which obviously isn't going to happen. Besides, do you honestly think that even one, much less five, Supreme Court justices would allow it?

Absolutely. I've got four gimmes in Kavanaugh, Barrett, Alito, and Thomas.

Gorsuch is a probable fifth. Roberts, far less so, but may be "coerced" (as in, he gone or worse if he doesn't -- 2025 if not 2023!).

> Every college outside of "the 32 attached to NFL teams with players drafted out of high school and not allowed to transfer except through the NFL trade process" dropping football except as whatever it is you define as "a club sport" (and if that means "no scholarships," then every NCAA Division III football team is already a "club team") is a done deal compared to this.

We'll get to that eventually. The actual true talent pool in football is evaporating rapidly.
> Second, "shutting down the government" doesn't shut down Congress, or the Executive branch - if they rescind Biden and Harris before January 3, then Nancy Pelosi is acting President. Otherwise, how could the Congress pass a budget that ends the shutdown if Congress itself is shut down?

Three words, which would be in that declaration: Adjournment sine die.

Mike

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> > Besides, do you honestly think that even one, much less five, Supreme Court justices would allow it?
> Absolutely. I've got four gimmes in Kavanaugh, Barrett, Alito, and Thomas.

These wouldn't be the Kavanaugh and Barrett that refused to hear any of Trump's elections right after the election, would they? Why would they suddenly decide, "Not only are we changing our mind about the election, but we're declaring Trump the winner"?

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 by: Michael Falkner - Sun, 6 Nov 2022 01:46 UTC

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:13:42 PM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> > > Besides, do you honestly think that even one, much less five, Supreme Court justices would allow it?
> > Absolutely. I've got four gimmes in Kavanaugh, Barrett, Alito, and Thomas.
> These wouldn't be the Kavanaugh and Barrett that refused to hear any of Trump's elections right after the election, would they? Why would they suddenly decide, "Not only are we changing our mind about the election, but we're declaring Trump the winner"?

Difference: The Congress under Separation of Powers.

I get where you're coming from -- that was petitioning the SC to reverse directly.

Mike


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