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Subject: 2023 NOTBCS Cup final standings
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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:13 UTC

Here are the final standings for the 2023 NOTBCS Cup:

SEC - 2679
381 - Baseball (LSU)
381 - Men's Golf (Florida)
376 - Men's Outdoor Track & Field (Florida)
361 - Women's Basketball (LSU)
346 - Men's Indoor Track & Field (Arkansas)
344 - Women's Indoor Track & Field (Arkansas)
326 - Football (Georgia)
127 - Women's Lacrosse (Northwestern)
37 - Women's Bowling (Vanderbilt)

ACC - 1912
359 - Women's Cross Country (North Carolina State)
312 - Women's Tennis (North Carolina)
302 - Men's Tennis (Virginia)
275 - Women's Golf (Wake Forest)
265 - Men's Soccer (Syracuse)
200 - Women's Swimming & Diving (Virginia)
95 - Men's Lacrosse (Notre Dame)
82 - Women's Field Hockey (North Carolina)
22 - Fencing (Notre Dame)

Big 12 - 1064
352 - Women's Outdoor Track & Field (Texas)
345 - Women's Volleyball (Texas)
306 - Women's Softball (Oklahoma)
61 - Women's Gymnastics (Oklahoma)

Pac-12 - 809
348 - Women's Soccer (UCLA)
170 - Men's Swimming & Diving (California)
91 - Women's Rowing (Stanford)
67 - Women's Beach Volleyball (USC)
37 - Women's Water Polo (Stanford)
35 - Men's Volleyball (UCLA)
35 - Men's Water Polo (California)
15 - Men's Gymnastics (Stanford)
11 - Skiing (Utah)

Big East - 453
453 - Men's Basketball (Connecticut)

Big Sky - 410
410 - Men's Cross Country (Northern Arizona)

Big 10 - 137
100 - Wrestling (Penn State)
37 - Women's Ice Hockey (Wisconsin)

MAAC - 73
73 - Men's Ice Hockey (Quinnipiac)

Division II - 23
23 - Rifle (Alaska)

"The quick version": a conference (or the entire division, if it is not a Division I school) gets points equal to the number of Division I schools that sponsor a sport if one of its schools wins the NCAA championship, with a 25% bonus for men's sports to even them out with women's; football is decided by the CFP championship, but both FBS and FCS teams are counted for points purposes.

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 by: Corky - Sun, 2 Jul 2023 19:20 UTC

On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 6:13:18 PM UTC-5, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> Here are the final standings for the 2023 NOTBCS Cup:
>
> SEC - 2679
> 381 - Baseball (LSU)
> 381 - Men's Golf (Florida)
> 376 - Men's Outdoor Track & Field (Florida)
> 361 - Women's Basketball (LSU)
> 346 - Men's Indoor Track & Field (Arkansas)
> 344 - Women's Indoor Track & Field (Arkansas)
> 326 - Football (Georgia)
> 127 - Women's Lacrosse (Northwestern)
> 37 - Women's Bowling (Vanderbilt)
>
> ACC - 1912
> 359 - Women's Cross Country (North Carolina State)
> 312 - Women's Tennis (North Carolina)
> 302 - Men's Tennis (Virginia)
> 275 - Women's Golf (Wake Forest)
> 265 - Men's Soccer (Syracuse)
> 200 - Women's Swimming & Diving (Virginia)
> 95 - Men's Lacrosse (Notre Dame)
> 82 - Women's Field Hockey (North Carolina)
> 22 - Fencing (Notre Dame)
>
> Big 12 - 1064
> 352 - Women's Outdoor Track & Field (Texas)
> 345 - Women's Volleyball (Texas)
> 306 - Women's Softball (Oklahoma)
> 61 - Women's Gymnastics (Oklahoma)
>
> Pac-12 - 809
> 348 - Women's Soccer (UCLA)
> 170 - Men's Swimming & Diving (California)
> 91 - Women's Rowing (Stanford)
> 67 - Women's Beach Volleyball (USC)
> 37 - Women's Water Polo (Stanford)
> 35 - Men's Volleyball (UCLA)
> 35 - Men's Water Polo (California)
> 15 - Men's Gymnastics (Stanford)
> 11 - Skiing (Utah)
>
> Big East - 453
> 453 - Men's Basketball (Connecticut)
>
> Big Sky - 410
> 410 - Men's Cross Country (Northern Arizona)
>
> Big 10 - 137
> 100 - Wrestling (Penn State)
> 37 - Women's Ice Hockey (Wisconsin)
>
> MAAC - 73
> 73 - Men's Ice Hockey (Quinnipiac)
>
> Division II - 23
> 23 - Rifle (Alaska)
>
> "The quick version": a conference (or the entire division, if it is not a Division I school) gets points equal to the number of Division I schools that sponsor a sport if one of its schools wins the NCAA championship, with a 25% bonus for men's sports to even them out with women's; football is decided by the CFP championship, but both FBS and FCS teams are counted for points purposes.
Northwestern isn't in the SEC.
I'd love to see a breakdown of the points for LSU's baseball. I see women's bowling is 1 to 1 but I can figure out all that bonus stuff.

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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Sun, 2 Jul 2023 19:33 UTC

> > SEC - 2679
> > 127 - Women's Lacrosse (Northwestern)
> Northwestern isn't in the SEC.

Er, um, uh, let me think about this one for a minute...the SEC gets to count one of the Big 10's championships because of Georgia's win over Ohio State in the CFP semi-finals?

> I'd love to see a breakdown of the points for LSU's baseball. I see women's bowling is 1 to 1 but I can figure out all that bonus stuff.

Seriously...there are 305 schools that play Division I baseball. When you add up the total number of schools for each sport, the women have about 25% more than the men, so all men's sports get a 25% bonus to make up for it. 25% of 305 is 76.25, rounded to 76, so that's 305 + 76 = 381.

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On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 2:33:09 PM UTC-5, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> Seriously...there are 305 schools that play Division I baseball. When you add up the total number of schools for each sport, the women have about 25% more than the men, so all men's sports get a 25% bonus to make up for it. 25% of 305 is 76.25, rounded to 76, so that's 305 + 76 = 381.

Why is the 'seriously' necessary?
Thanks for the breakdown, got it..

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 by: The NOTBCS Guy - Mon, 3 Jul 2023 20:17 UTC

> > Seriously...there are 305 schools that play Division I baseball. When you add up the total number of schools for each sport, the women have about 25% more than the men, so all men's sports get a 25% bonus to make up for it. 25% of 305 is 76.25, rounded to 76, so that's 305 + 76 = 381.
> Why is the 'seriously' necessary?

To make sure it's not lumped in with the SEC/Big 10 explanation, which, you guessed it, is "not seriously."

Reminder: the first Division I football practices can begin on July 26 (if the team has a Week 0 game - teams that start on 9/2 have to wait until 8/2).

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