Biden Leading Trump In New General Election Polling
MSNBC - July 20, 2023
-- https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/biden-leading-trump-in-new-general-election-polling-188859973757

On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 2:18:58 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
> Biden Leading Trump In New General Election Polling
> MSNBC - July 20, 2023
> -- https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/biden-leading-trump-in-new-general-election-polling-188859973757

Trump will win the general if Biden wins the popular by 5. Biden will win NY and CA by more than 5% of the national vote.

Mike

On 7/30/2023 12:55 AM, Michael Falkner wrote:
> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 2:18:58 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
>> Biden Leading Trump In New General Election Polling
>> MSNBC - July 20, 2023
>> -- https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/biden-leading-trump-in-new-general-election-polling-188859973757
>
> Trump will win the general if Biden wins the popular by 5. Biden will win NY and CA by more than 5% of the national vote.
>
> Mike

IOW, all the slackers and scumbags in the cities will vote for Biden,
while people that work for a living will vote Trump.

Ken
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On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:04:20 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

> IOW, all the slackers and scumbags in the cities will vote for Biden,
> while people that work for a living will vote Trump.

Which is one reason you need to shoot us now.

But you're too stupid to see it.

Mike

> > Biden Leading Trump In New General Election Polling
> > MSNBC - July 20, 2023
> > -- https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/biden-leading-trump-in-new-general-election-polling-188859973757
> Trump will win the general if Biden wins the popular by 5. Biden will win NY and CA by more than 5% of the national vote.

Er, Biden only had a 4.4% nationwide lead in the 2020 election. Refresh my memory; how did that turn out?
Also note that the Quinnipiac poll in question had 7% undecided/others.

Your statement assumes the rest of the country's Trump-Biden breakdown is uniform. Somehow, I think Trump will get a larger percentage of the vote in, say, Alabama than he will in Massachusetts.

But you know the saying: there's only one poll that counts. Well, for a Presidential election, there are only 51 polls that count.

On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 7:19:03 PM UTC-4, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> > > Biden Leading Trump In New General Election Polling
> > > MSNBC - July 20, 2023
> > > -- https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/biden-leading-trump-in-new-general-election-polling-188859973757
> > Trump will win the general if Biden wins the popular by 5. Biden will win NY and CA by more than 5% of the national vote.
> Er, Biden only had a 4.4% nationwide lead in the 2020 election. Refresh my memory; how did that turn out?
> Also note that the Quinnipiac poll in question had 7% undecided/others.
>
> Your statement assumes the rest of the country's Trump-Biden breakdown is uniform. Somehow, I think Trump will get a larger percentage of the vote in, say, Alabama than he will in Massachusetts.
>
> But you know the saying: there's only one poll that counts. Well, for a Presidential election, there are only 51 polls that count,

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-accuse-doj-obstructing-their-hunter-biden-probe-1816240
Joe Biden and the DOJ must be a little worried or they wouldn't try to intimate Devon Archer. The career of Joe Biden is ending and we won't see him running for President in 2024.

On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:50:10 PM UTC-7, floaterjr wrote:
> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 7:19:03 PM UTC-4, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> > > > Biden Leading Trump In New General Election Polling
> > > > MSNBC - July 20, 2023
> > > > -- https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/biden-leading-trump-in-new-general-election-polling-188859973757
> > > Trump will win the general if Biden wins the popular by 5. Biden will win NY and CA by more than 5% of the national vote.
> > Er, Biden only had a 4.4% nationwide lead in the 2020 election. Refresh my memory; how did that turn out?
> > Also note that the Quinnipiac poll in question had 7% undecided/others.
> >
> > Your statement assumes the rest of the country's Trump-Biden breakdown is uniform. Somehow, I think Trump will get a larger percentage of the vote in, say, Alabama than he will in Massachusetts.
> >
> > But you know the saying: there's only one poll that counts. Well, for a Presidential election, there are only 51 polls that count,
>
> https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-accuse-doj-obstructing-their-hunter-biden-probe-1816240
> Joe Biden and the DOJ must be a little worried or they wouldn't try to intimate Devon Archer. The career of Joe Biden is ending and we won't see him running for President in 2024.

the thing that gets me about partisans is that they start to believe their fantasies. Like the crazy lefties have convinced themselves that Ukraine is full of Nazis and Russia is there only to save the non-Nazis. So too, the crazed right-wingers think "Hunter Biden" is the most important issue in the country. Yeah, to crazed righties who already hate Biden. Not really at all to everyone else.

On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:50:10 PM UTC-7, floaterjr wrote:
> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 7:19:03 PM UTC-4, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> > > > Biden Leading Trump In New General Election Polling
> > > > MSNBC - July 20, 2023
> > > > -- https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/biden-leading-trump-in-new-general-election-polling-188859973757
> > > Trump will win the general if Biden wins the popular by 5. Biden will win NY and CA by more than 5% of the national vote.
> > Er, Biden only had a 4.4% nationwide lead in the 2020 election. Refresh my memory; how did that turn out?
> > Also note that the Quinnipiac poll in question had 7% undecided/others.
> >
> > Your statement assumes the rest of the country's Trump-Biden breakdown is uniform. Somehow, I think Trump will get a larger percentage of the vote in, say, Alabama than he will in Massachusetts.
> >
> > But you know the saying: there's only one poll that counts. Well, for a Presidential election, there are only 51 polls that count,
>
> https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-accuse-doj-obstructing-their-hunter-biden-probe-1816240
> Joe Biden and the DOJ must be a little worried or they wouldn't try to intimate Devon Archer. The career of Joe Biden is ending and we won't see him running for President in 2024.

I forgot to mention how mad they're getting about Barbie.

On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:03 PM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> > > Biden Leading Trump In New General Election Polling
> > > MSNBC - July 20, 2023
> > > -- https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/biden-leading-trump-in-new-general-election-polling-188859973757
> > Trump will win the general if Biden wins the popular by 5. Biden will win NY and CA by more than 5% of the national vote.
> Er, Biden only had a 4.4% nationwide lead in the 2020 election. Refresh my memory; how did that turn out?
> Also note that the Quinnipiac poll in question had 7% undecided/others.

He also had about a 7-8 point lead in a lot of the major polls (270 To Win, RealClearPolitics, 538). (Aggregating source: Wikipedia.)

Biden's margin of victory in the popular vote was 7,059,526. (4.456% of the total)

He won California by 5,104,121.

He won New York by 1,992,889.

That is 7,097,010, or about 37,484 votes more than by which he won the popular vote. (Same aggregating source)

CA and NY total 84 of the 306 electoral votes. Outside those two states, Trump wins both the popular and electoral vote.

Another reason people like Ken Olson are going to have to round up militias and come shooting to take over.

Mike

On 7/30/2023 8:27 PM, Eric Ramon wrote:
> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:50:10 PM UTC-7, floaterjr wrote:
>> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 7:19:03 PM UTC-4, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
>>>>> Biden Leading Trump In New General Election Polling
>>>>> MSNBC - July 20, 2023
>>>>> -- https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/biden-leading-trump-in-new-general-election-polling-188859973757
>>>> Trump will win the general if Biden wins the popular by 5. Biden will win NY and CA by more than 5% of the national vote.
>>> Er, Biden only had a 4.4% nationwide lead in the 2020 election. Refresh my memory; how did that turn out?
>>> Also note that the Quinnipiac poll in question had 7% undecided/others.
>>>
>>> Your statement assumes the rest of the country's Trump-Biden breakdown is uniform. Somehow, I think Trump will get a larger percentage of the vote in, say, Alabama than he will in Massachusetts.
>>>
>>> But you know the saying: there's only one poll that counts. Well, for a Presidential election, there are only 51 polls that count,
>>
>> https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-accuse-doj-obstructing-their-hunter-biden-probe-1816240
>> Joe Biden and the DOJ must be a little worried or they wouldn't try to intimate Devon Archer. The career of Joe Biden is ending and we won't see him running for President in 2024.
>
> the thing that gets me about partisans is that they start to believe their fantasies. Like the crazy lefties have convinced themselves that Ukraine is full of Nazis and Russia is there only to save the non-Nazis. So too, the crazed right-wingers think "Hunter Biden" is the most important issue in the country. Yeah, to crazed righties who already hate Biden. Not really at all to everyone else.

All I ask is that politics is out of it and he gets treated the way
anyone else is treated, both good and bad. There is much else more
important, but I'll leave the triaging to the professionals.

Ken
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On 7/31/2023 12:19 AM, Michael Falkner wrote:
> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:03 PM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
>>>> Biden Leading Trump In New General Election Polling
>>>> MSNBC - July 20, 2023
>>>> -- https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/biden-leading-trump-in-new-general-election-polling-188859973757
>>> Trump will win the general if Biden wins the popular by 5. Biden will win NY and CA by more than 5% of the national vote.
>> Er, Biden only had a 4.4% nationwide lead in the 2020 election. Refresh my memory; how did that turn out?
>> Also note that the Quinnipiac poll in question had 7% undecided/others.
>
> He also had about a 7-8 point lead in a lot of the major polls (270 To Win, RealClearPolitics, 538). (Aggregating source: Wikipedia.)
>
> Biden's margin of victory in the popular vote was 7,059,526. (4.456% of the total)
>
> He won California by 5,104,121.
>
> He won New York by 1,992,889.
>
> That is 7,097,010, or about 37,484 votes more than by which he won the popular vote. (Same aggregating source)
>
> CA and NY total 84 of the 306 electoral votes. Outside those two states, Trump wins both the popular and electoral vote.
>
> Another reason people like Ken Olson are going to have to round up militias and come shooting to take over.
>
> Mike

I have no need to take over anything. My local responsibilities are enough.
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On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 1:26:48 AM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

> I have no need to take over anything. My local responsibilities are enough.

I think you have a very serious problem with that attitude, until and unless you basically turn America into a rural, agrarian, fragmented situation.

Mike

On 7/31/2023 1:31 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 1:26:48 AM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
>
>> I have no need to take over anything. My local responsibilities are enough.
>
> I think you have a very serious problem with that attitude, until and unless you basically turn America into a rural, agrarian, fragmented situation.
>
> Mike

That dream sailed a long time ago. Jefferson's vision of agrarian
mercantilism is long past possible.

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> He won California by 5,104,121.
>
> He won New York by 1,992,889.
>
> That is 7,097,010, or about 37,484 votes more than by which he won the popular vote. (Same aggregating source)
>
> CA and NY total 84 of the 306 electoral votes. Outside those two states, Trump wins both the popular and electoral vote.

In fact, before Biden in 2020, the last President who would have lost had California gone the other way was...Woodrow Wilson in 1916.

However, California and New York DO count, so your claim that Trump will win if a poll shows Biden ahead nationally by 5% does not make sense - especially as we know nothing about how the polled voters are distributed. You cannot make the assumption that every state outside of CA and NY will break the same way - which is pretty much exactly what you did.

On the other hand, a Harvard-Harris poll conducted three days later, and with more registered voters, has Trump ahead by 5% (45-40). Like I said, the only polls that matter are the 51 taken on election day...and even then, if the Republicans can get 218 in the House and 51 in the Senate, we could have another 1876 on our hands.

On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 12:36:38 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

> That dream sailed a long time ago. Jefferson's vision of agrarian
> mercantilism is long past possible.

At the present population level, absolutely.

Gut the cities and the infrastructure and prove the Deagle Group correct...

Mike