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by: JGibson - Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:28 UTC

Overall consensus not much different from AP or coaches' poll, so let's go right to the conferences.

(from football.stassen.com)

1. Clemson
2. Florida State
3. North Carolina
4. Miami
5. Pitt
6. Duke
7. Louisville
8. N.C. State
9. Wake Forest
10. Syracuse
11. Virginia Tech
12. Boston College
13. Georgia Tech
14. Virginia

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by: xyzzy - Fri, 18 Aug 2023 18:27 UTC

JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
> Overall consensus not much different from AP or coaches' poll, so let's
> go right to the conferences.
>
> (from football.stassen.com)
>
> 1. Clemson
> 2. Florida State
> 3. North Carolina
> 4. Miami
> 5. Pitt
> 6. Duke
> 7. Louisville
> 8. N.C. State
> 9. Wake Forest
> 10. Syracuse
> 11. Virginia Tech
> 12. Boston College
> 13. Georgia Tech
> 14. Virginia
>

I know it’s a rebuilding year with a new coach, but #11 and behind Duke and
Wake is a tough pill to swallow. At least I can take consolation that UVA
is last I guess.

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by: JGibson - Fri, 18 Aug 2023 22:03 UTC

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 2:27:54 PM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
> JGibson <james.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Overall consensus not much different from AP or coaches' poll, so let's
> > go right to the conferences.
> >
> > (from football.stassen.com)
> >
> > 1. Clemson
> > 2. Florida State
> > 3. North Carolina
> > 4. Miami
> > 5. Pitt
> > 6. Duke
> > 7. Louisville
> > 8. N.C. State
> > 9. Wake Forest
> > 10. Syracuse
> > 11. Virginia Tech
> > 12. Boston College
> > 13. Georgia Tech
> > 14. Virginia
> >
> I know it’s a rebuilding year with a new coach, but #11 and behind Duke and
> Wake is a tough pill to swallow. At least I can take consolation that UVA
> is last I guess.
>

There's a major article on espn.com right now about what happened at VaTech.. The thing that I don't quite get from that article - most of the blame seems to be aimed at Fuente, but when they discuss not recruiting at Michael Vick's high school, if I did my math right, that goes back to the last few years of Beamer.

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by: xyzzy - Fri, 18 Aug 2023 22:41 UTC

JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 2:27:54 PM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
>> JGibson <james.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Overall consensus not much different from AP or coaches' poll, so let's
>>> go right to the conferences.
>>>
>>> (from football.stassen.com)
>>>
>>> 1. Clemson
>>> 2. Florida State
>>> 3. North Carolina
>>> 4. Miami
>>> 5. Pitt
>>> 6. Duke
>>> 7. Louisville
>>> 8. N.C. State
>>> 9. Wake Forest
>>> 10. Syracuse
>>> 11. Virginia Tech
>>> 12. Boston College
>>> 13. Georgia Tech
>>> 14. Virginia
>>>
>> I know it’s a rebuilding year with a new coach, but #11 and behind Duke and
>> Wake is a tough pill to swallow. At least I can take consolation that UVA
>> is last I guess.
>>
>
> There's a major article on espn.com right now about what happened at
> VaTech. The thing that I don't quite get from that article - most of the
> blame seems to be aimed at Fuente, but when they discuss not recruiting
> at Michael Vick's high school, if I did my math right, that goes back to
> the last few years of Beamer.
>
>

I read the article this afternoon too, it wasn’t that well structured. But
the message I got about Fuente was that he was a victim of institutional
dysfunction and too many powerful people in the athletic department who
couldn’t or wouldn’t move on from Beamer. I don’t see that as blaming
Fuente.

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by: JGibson - Tue, 29 Aug 2023 13:11 UTC

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:28:50 AM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
> Overall consensus not much different from AP or coaches' poll, so let's go right to the conferences.
>
> (from football.stassen.com)
>
> 1. Clemson
> 2. Florida State
> 3. North Carolina
> 4. Miami
> 5. Pitt
> 6. Duke
> 7. Louisville
> 8. N.C. State
> 9. Wake Forest
> 10. Syracuse
> 11. Virginia Tech
> 12. Boston College
> 13. Georgia Tech
> 14. Virginia

Updated with 15 in the consensus instead of 5:
1. Clemson
2. Florida State
3. North Carolina
4. Miami
5. Pitt
6. N.C. State
7. Louisville
8. Duke
9. Wake Forest
10. Syracuse
11. Virginia Tech
12. Boston College
13. Georgia Tech
14. Virginia

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by: xyzzy - Tue, 29 Aug 2023 18:23 UTC

JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:28:50 AM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
>> Overall consensus not much different from AP or coaches' poll, so let's
>> go right to the conferences.
>>
>> (from football.stassen.com)
>>
>> 1. Clemson
>> 2. Florida State
>> 3. North Carolina
>> 4. Miami
>> 5. Pitt
>> 6. Duke
>> 7. Louisville
>> 8. N.C. State
>> 9. Wake Forest
>> 10. Syracuse
>> 11. Virginia Tech
>> 12. Boston College
>> 13. Georgia Tech
>> 14. Virginia
>
> Updated with 15 in the consensus instead of 5:
> 1. Clemson
> 2. Florida State
> 3. North Carolina
> 4. Miami
> 5. Pitt
> 6. N.C. State
> 7. Louisville
> 8. Duke
> 9. Wake Forest
> 10. Syracuse
> 11. Virginia Tech
> 12. Boston College
> 13. Georgia Tech
> 14. Virginia
>

So NC Stqte and Duke switched spots?

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by: JGibson - Tue, 29 Aug 2023 18:40 UTC

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
> JGibson <james.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:28:50 AM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
> >> Overall consensus not much different from AP or coaches' poll, so let's
> >> go right to the conferences.
> >>
> >> (from football.stassen.com)
> >>
> >> 1. Clemson
> >> 2. Florida State
> >> 3. North Carolina
> >> 4. Miami
> >> 5. Pitt
> >> 6. Duke
> >> 7. Louisville
> >> 8. N.C. State
> >> 9. Wake Forest
> >> 10. Syracuse
> >> 11. Virginia Tech
> >> 12. Boston College
> >> 13. Georgia Tech
> >> 14. Virginia
> >
> > Updated with 15 in the consensus instead of 5:
> > 1. Clemson
> > 2. Florida State
> > 3. North Carolina
> > 4. Miami
> > 5. Pitt
> > 6. N.C. State
> > 7. Louisville
> > 8. Duke
> > 9. Wake Forest
> > 10. Syracuse
> > 11. Virginia Tech
> > 12. Boston College
> > 13. Georgia Tech
> > 14. Virginia
> >
> So NC Stqte and Duke switched spots?

Oh, yep. I was thinking it was three changes, but #6 and #8 flipping is all.

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