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* Queretaro thread?HASM
+* Re: Queretaro thread?Binder Dundat
|`* Re: Queretaro thread?Michael Falkner
| `- Re: Queretaro thread?Michael Falkner
+* Re: Queretaro thread?Lléo
|`- Re: Queretaro thread?HASM
`- Re: Queretaro thread?Bruce Scott

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Queretaro thread?

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 by: HASM - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 17:16 UTC

No Queretaro thread?
Maybe obfuscated by the Ukraine threads.

https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t7n17q/the_liga_mx_match_between_queretaro_and_atlas/
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t7oxxt/medrano_17_dead_is_the_first_unofficial_report/
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t9iw4x/jon_arnold_overnight_officials_in_queretaro_made/
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t87ggs/jonny_rico_the_state_government_of_queretaro_and/
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t8uqxq/medrano_the_assembly_of_liga_mx_owners_has/

Queretaro kicked out of the liga MX.

Will FIFA keep Mexico as a co-host of 2026? (If Putin will let us have a
2026 WC.)

-- HASM

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Subject: Re: Queretaro thread?
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 by: Binder Dundat - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 17:43 UTC

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 12:16:36 p.m. UTC-5, HASM wrote:
> No Queretaro thread?
> Maybe obfuscated by the Ukraine threads.
>
> https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t7n17q/the_liga_mx_match_between_queretaro_and_atlas/
> https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t7oxxt/medrano_17_dead_is_the_first_unofficial_report/
> https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t9iw4x/jon_arnold_overnight_officials_in_queretaro_made/
> https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t87ggs/jonny_rico_the_state_government_of_queretaro_and/
> https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t8uqxq/medrano_the_assembly_of_liga_mx_owners_has/
>
> Queretaro kicked out of the liga MX.
>
> Will FIFA keep Mexico as a co-host of 2026? (If Putin will let us have a
> 2026 WC.)
>
> -- HASM

Might not have a 2022 the way things are going.

I was under the impressions this was cartel gang related. Sorry, I cant be bothered reading reddit posts.

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Subject: Re: Queretaro thread?
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 by: Michael Falkner - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 19:54 UTC

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:43:53 AM UTC-8, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 12:16:36 p.m. UTC-5, HASM wrote:

> > Will FIFA keep Mexico as a co-host of 2026? (If Putin will let us have a
> > 2026 WC.)

> Might not have a 2022 the way things are going.
>
> I was under the impressions this was cartel gang related. Sorry, I cant be bothered reading reddit posts.

Not surprising, given the current state of affairs.

None of it. Throw Mexico out of FIFA.

Mike

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 by: Michael Falkner - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 20:16 UTC

Queretaro punishments:

* $75K fine.
* Match forfeited to Atlas.
* One-year all-fans ban from home matches, no matter where the team ends up playing.
* They must find another stadium to play in, unless they can guarantee for every match an armed security perimeter.
* Life bans for all identified as criminals in the brawl.
* Ownership thrown out of Liga MX for five years, team must be sold in the next year.
* Their ultras are banned three years from home matches, one year from all matches.
* The lesser fan group is banned one year, Atlas' is banned six months.

WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET A TOP-LEVEL PROFESSIONAL TEAM THROWN OUT AND DISBANDED?

Mike

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 by: Lléo - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 22:04 UTC

HASM escreveu:
> No Queretaro thread?
> Maybe obfuscated by the Ukraine threads.

I fell into a twitter rabbit hole that had some images and videos of this
massacre. My advice to you all: don't go there. It's amongst the most brutal,
barbaric things I've ever seen. Truly evil stuff.


> https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t7n17q/the_liga_mx_match_between_queretaro_and_atlas/
> https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t7oxxt/medrano_17_dead_is_the_first_unofficial_report/
> https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t9iw4x/jon_arnold_overnight_officials_in_queretaro_made/
> https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t87ggs/jonny_rico_the_state_government_of_queretaro_and/
> https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/t8uqxq/medrano_the_assembly_of_liga_mx_owners_has/
>
> Queretaro kicked out of the liga MX.

Good. But disbanding the club should be only the first step, and the least of
the owners' worries.

There are lots of questions about the lack of security in the stadium, it
feels like it was purposedly made into a death trap for the Atlas fans that
attended the game. Of course, one needs to wait for the investigations to
draw the line that separates incompetence from irresponsibility.

> Will FIFA keep Mexico as a co-host of 2026? (If Putin will let us have a
> 2026 WC.)

I don't know what to think about this one at the moment.

In any case, although one expects Mexico to be a fine host (just like they
were in 1970 and 1986), with the US and Canada on board it should be easier
for FIFA to cut them off, if they feel like doing so.

--
Lléo

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 by: HASM - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 07:02 UTC

Lléo <llb.moura@gmail.com> writes:

> I fell into a twitter rabbit hole that had some images and videos of this
> massacre. My advice to you all: don't go there. It's amongst the most brutal,
> barbaric things I've ever seen. Truly evil stuff.

I limited myself to some (not deep) browsing the reddit treads, which is
my standard op there. Warnings like yours were in almost all reddit threads.

Didn't go into any twitter feed, I don't like that platform at all and
normally don't follow links into it.

-- HASM

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 by: Bruce Scott - Fri, 11 Mar 2022 11:08 UTC

On 2022-03-08, HASM <hasm@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> No Queretaro thread?
> Maybe obfuscated by the Ukraine threads.
> [...]

This article (in German) in an Austrian newspaper says up to 40 dead (!)
https://abseits.at/in-depth/fankurve/mexiko-blutrausch-bis-zu-40-tote-
die-behoerden-schweigen-queretaro-wird-ausgeschlossen/

"Mexico bloodbath: up to 40 dead, authorities silent, Queretaro banned"

--
ciao, Bruce

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