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 by: anders t - Sat, 5 Mar 2022 15:43 UTC

As you probably know, the idiots in the Swedish FA banned our pros from the
NT until 1958.

This is what we could have had 1950 and 1954. (Minus the keeper... :-) )

https://tinyurl.com/2upwr4va

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Il giorno Sat 05 Mar 2022 04:43:59p, *anders t* ha inviato su
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> This is what we could have had 1950 and 1954. (Minus the keeper... :-) )
>
> https://tinyurl.com/2upwr4va
>
>

three Nordahl in the team: relatives?

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 by: anders t - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 08:02 UTC

Quoting Ammammata in rec.sport.soccer:
>Il giorno Sat 05 Mar 2022 04:43:59p, *anders t* ha inviato su
>rec.sport.soccer il messaggio
>news:85172hpd31e0mdgqb3iojq5l1d9n7hhvnu@4ax.com. Vediamo cosa ha scritto:
>
>> This is what we could have had 1950 and 1954. (Minus the keeper... :-) )
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/2upwr4va
>>
>>
>
>three Nordahl in the team: relatives?

Oh yes! Brothers!

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 09:25 UTC

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:02:24 AM UTC+2, anders t wrote:
> >three Nordahl in the team: relatives?
> Oh yes! Brothers!

Which raises the question: there have been lots of instances of *two* brothers playing professionally, often on the same team (Phil and Gary Neville, the Van De Kerkhof Brothers), sometimes on opposite sides of a city divide (Franco and Giuseppe Baresi), sometimes even on opposite national teams (Kevin Prince and Jerome Boateng, who are only half-brothers).

But how many instances are there of *three* brothers playing professionally? The Nordahls are one. Maradona's brothers Hugo and Lalo were able to cobble together a few professional appearances (Hugo looks to have been quite successful in the J-League in the mid 1990s. He died of a heart attack last year :-(

Any others?

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Il giorno Tue 08 Mar 2022 10:25:05a, *Futbolmetrix* ha inviato su
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> But how many instances are there of *three* brothers playing
> professionally?

FIVE, the Cevenini group

Luigi Cevenini - Wikipedia
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Cevenini

i fratelli Cevenini stabilirono un record tuttora in essere, alquanto
straordinario: il 26 dicembre 1920, infatti, tutti e cinque i fratelli,
(Aldo, Mario, Luigi, Cesare e Carlo), vennero schierati nel derby cittadino
contro l'U.S. Milanese, terminato 2-1 per l'Inter grazie ai gol di Luigi e
Carlo.

Luigi Cevenini - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Cevenini

His older brothers Aldo Cevenini and Mario Cevenini and younger brothers
Cesare Cevenini and Carlo Cevenini all played football professionally, with
Aldo playing 11 games for Italy. To distinguish them, Aldo was known as
Cevenini I, Mario as Cevenini II, Luigi as Cevenini III, Cesare as Cevenini
IV and Carlo as Cevenini V.

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 by: Ammammata - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 13:21 UTC

On Tuesday 08/03/2022 Ammammata wrote:
> il 26 dicembre 1920

Campionato
http://www.storiainter.com/Notes/Campionati/2021/3fg.htm

CAMPIONATO 1920/21
Girone finale regionale

Milano, 26 dicembre 1920 - III° giornata

Internazionale - U. S. Milanese 2-1

Internazionale: Campelli, M. Cevenini, Beltrame, Da Sacco, L. Cevenini,
A. Cevenini, Martinella, Aebi, Agradi, Cesare Cevenini, Carlo Cevenini.

U. S. Milanese: Cameroni, Pizzi, Carmelo, Bruciamonti, Monti, Bosi,
Redaelli, Dagradi, Ferrari, Cavallini, Pasqualetto.

Reti: 8’ L. Cevenini (r), 18’ Carlo Cevenini, 75’ Campelli (aut)

Arbitro: Venegoni del Legnano

Note: primo tempo interamente a favore dell’Internazionale che va in
gol già al 5’ con Agradi ma la marcatura viene annullata per
fuorigioco; al 8’ il primo gol: Pizzi commette fallo ai danni di
Martinella e l’arbitro concede il calcio di rigore, rigore tirato e
trasformato da L. Cevenini; al 18’ l’Internazionale raddoppia con Carlo
Cevenini che raccoglie al volo un bel traversone di Martinella;
malgrado che gli attacchi nerazzurri continuino fino alla fine del
tempo, il risultato non cambia più. Nella ripresa si assiste alla
tentata rimonta dell’U. S. Milanese che riesce ad andare in gol a metà
ripresa con un infortunio di Campelli: tiro di Radaelli con Campelli
che afferra la sfera, sfera però che gli sguscia dalle mani e rotola
beffardamente in rete. Alla fine l’Internazionale riesce a difendere il
punto di vantaggio fino alla fine e porta a casa l’intera posta in
palio. Angoli 3 a 1 per l’Internazionale. Da segnalare che in campo,
per l’Internazionale, sono scesi in campo per la prima volta e
contemporaneamente ben 5 fratelli, i fratelli Cevenini.

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 by: Lléo - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:08 UTC

Futbolmetrix escreveu:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:02:24 AM UTC+2, anders t wrote:
>
> > >three Nordahl in the team: relatives?
> >
> > Oh yes! Brothers!
>
> Which raises the question: there have been lots of instances of *two*
> brothers playing professionally, often on the same team (Phil and Gary
> Neville, the Van De Kerkhof Brothers), sometimes on opposite sides of a
> city divide (Franco and Giuseppe Baresi),

The Milito Brothers, Gabriel and Diego, are another example of this. One
played for Independiente and the other for Racing. There was a famous
instance of the Avellaneda Derby when they faced each other and did not
allow the fraternal link to hold them back. Gabriel tackled Diego, who
furiously demanded the ref to send off his brother. In the argument that
ensued, it is said that Gabriel called Diego "son of a b*tch", just to
be reminded that said lady was also his own mother :-) All that with their
parents and family watching on the stands. But as far as I know, sibling
rivalry has been limited to the Racing vs Independiente divide. Otherwise
they seem to get along well.

> sometimes even on opposite]
> national teams (Kevin Prince and Jerome Boateng, who are only half-brothers).
>
> But how many instances are there of *three* brothers playing professionally?
> The Nordahls are one. Maradona's brothers Hugo and Lalo were able to cobble
> together a few professional appearances (Hugo looks to have been quite
> successful in the J-League in the mid 1990s. He died of a heart attack
> last year :-(
>
> Any others?

I looked up this one on Google: Wesley Sneijder has two brothers who play(ed)
professional football. The oldest one, Jeffrey, played for a handful of Dutch
small clubs before retiring from professional footbal in 2008, at age 26. The
youngest, Rodney, has been playing in the Netherlands and featured a few games
for the national team's youth sides.

I guess that, in this context, one also has to mention the Thill family. On his
day, Serge Thill has played 14 matches for Luxembourg, from 1992 to 1998. His
three sons, Olivier, Sébastien and Vincent, all play for the national team today.
Indeed, all three were involved in their Luxembourg's away victory over Ireland
in the WCQ, Olivier and Vincent on the pitch and Sébastien in the subs bench.

And of course, from:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/22/the-largest-number-of-siblings-to-score-for-their-country

“This, however, is narrowly beaten by the dedicated Pele/Ayew footballing dynasty,
which includes Abedi Pele (33), Kwame Ayew (9), André Ayew (14) and Jordan Ayew (12).
That’s a grand total of 68 international goals. The young Ayews also have a sister,
Imani, who is a professional footballer, but I couldn’t find out anything about a
goal record internationally.”

This one should be hard to beat, but surely there are other examples.

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 by: MH - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 18:23 UTC

On 2022-03-08 02:25, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:02:24 AM UTC+2, anders t wrote:
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>>> three Nordahl in the team: relatives?
>> Oh yes! Brothers!
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> Which raises the question: there have been lots of instances of *two* brothers playing professionally, often on the same team (Phil and Gary Neville, the Van De Kerkhof Brothers), sometimes on opposite sides of a city divide (Franco and Giuseppe Baresi), sometimes even on opposite national teams (Kevin Prince and Jerome Boateng, who are only half-brothers).
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> But how many instances are there of *three* brothers playing professionally? The Nordahls are one. Maradona's brothers Hugo and Lalo were able to cobble together a few professional appearances (Hugo looks to have been quite successful in the J-League in the mid 1990s. He died of a heart attack last year :-(
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> Any others?

Three Boli brothers ? Sons of Roger, brother of Basil
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On 2022-03-08 02:25, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:02:24 AM UTC+2, anders t wrote:
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>>> three Nordahl in the team: relatives?
>> Oh yes! Brothers!
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> Which raises the question: there have been lots of instances of *two* brothers playing professionally, often on the same team (Phil and Gary Neville, the Van De Kerkhof Brothers), sometimes on opposite sides of a city divide (Franco and Giuseppe Baresi), sometimes even on opposite national teams (Kevin Prince and Jerome Boateng, who are only half-brothers).
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> But how many instances are there of *three* brothers playing professionally? The Nordahls are one. Maradona's brothers Hugo and Lalo were able to cobble together a few professional appearances (Hugo looks to have been quite successful in the J-League in the mid 1990s. He died of a heart attack last year :-(
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> Any others?

FIVE Shankly brothers, of whom Bill was the most famous. Others were
Bob (also a notable coach, led Dundee to Scottish championship in 1962,
and to semifinals of EC1 the next year), Alec, Jimmy and John.
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 by: Futbolmetrix - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 21:34 UTC

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:29:36 PM UTC+2, MH wrote:
> > Any others?
> FIVE Shankly brothers, of whom Bill was the most famous. Others were
> Bob (also a notable coach, led Dundee to Scottish championship in 1962,
> and to semifinals of EC1 the next year), Alec, Jimmy and John.

Nice finds everyone. The highest profile current triplet is probably the Pogba brothers: Florentin and Mathias (twins) have both built decent careers in the French first and second tiers, as well as a few caps with Guinea. Younger brother Paul was of course the best player at WC2018 (and still one of the most expensive transfers ever?)

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On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:10:00 PM UTC+2, Ammammata wrote:
> FIVE, the Cevenini group

There were also five Sentimenti brothers: Ennio, Arnaldo, Vittorio, Lucidio and Primo. The last four were definitely professional footballers, while there seems to be some disagreement about Ennio (Italian wikipedia says that he was, English wikipedia that he wasn't). But numbers 2-5 were known with their roman numerals (Sentimenti IV was a famous Juventus goalie in the 1940s, who would also score penalties -- he was in the 1950 Italy WC squad), so one has to guess that Ennio (Sentimenti I) must have played too at some level.

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 09:25 UTC

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 4:08:03 PM UTC+2, Lléo wrote:
> Futbolmetrix escreveu:

> The Milito Brothers, Gabriel and Diego, are another example of this. One
> played for Independiente and the other for Racing. There was a famous
> instance of the Avellaneda Derby when they faced each other and did not
> allow the fraternal link to hold them back. Gabriel tackled Diego, who
> furiously demanded the ref to send off his brother. In the argument that
> ensued, it is said that Gabriel called Diego "son of a b*tch", just to
> be reminded that said lady was also his own mother :-)

:-)

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 by: Werner Pichler - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 15:29 UTC

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:34:24 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:29:36 PM UTC+2, MH wrote:
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> > > Any others?
> > FIVE Shankly brothers, of whom Bill was the most famous. Others were
> > Bob (also a notable coach, led Dundee to Scottish championship in 1962,
> > and to semifinals of EC1 the next year), Alec, Jimmy and John.
>
> Nice finds everyone. The highest profile current triplet is probably the Pogba brothers:

Not the Hazards? Granted, Kylian has been loaned out to the Belgian 2nd division this year, but he has
played three seasons in the Jupiler League with Cercle. And they might still have Ethan up their sleeves.

Ciao,
Werner

> Florentin and Mathias (twins) have both built decent careers in the French first and second tiers, as well as a few caps with Guinea. Younger brother Paul was of
> course the best player at WC2018 (and still one of the most expensive transfers ever?)

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