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* Salzburg v Bayern RBinder Dundat
+* Re: Salzburg v Bayern RJesper Lauridsen
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||+* Re: Salzburg v Bayern RJesper Lauridsen
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`- Re: Salzburg v Bayern RThe Doctor

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Salzburg denied at least 10 clear penalty kick calls, playing the whole game in the Bayern half, Bayern kick and maim thugs trying to injure every Casino player, yet only 1-0 at the half for Salzburg.

In local news Canadian govt invoking state of emergency to rid the capital of hot tubs, really sad day for hot tubbers, who had just give Canadians back their freedom

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 by: Jesper Lauridsen - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:03 UTC

I don't know why Nagelsman persists with playing all 4 of Coman,
Gnabry, Sane and Müller. It unbalances the team, they get in each
other's way, and you lose the option of putting in fresh firepower in
the second half. That has been the result every time.

It's approaching Guardiola levels of stubbornness.

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:29 UTC

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:03:24 PM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> I don't know why Nagelsman persists with playing all 4 of Coman,
> Gnabry, Sane and Müller. It unbalances the team, they get in each
> other's way, and you lose the option of putting in fresh firepower in
> the second half. That has been the result every time.
>
> It's approaching Guardiola levels of stubbornness.

Elsewhere, lowly Serie A outfit Inter are giving Liverpool a run for their money (please don't make me support the Immaculates...) 70th minute, still 0-0

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:37 UTC

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:29:55 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Elsewhere, lowly Serie A outfit Inter are giving Liverpool a run for their money (please don't make me support the Immaculates...) 70th minute, still 0-0

Firmino, 0-1. These Weaufx Gods are not what they used to be...

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:45 UTC

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:37:12 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:29:55 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>
> > Elsewhere, lowly Serie A outfit Inter are giving Liverpool a run for their money (please don't make me support the Immaculates...) 70th minute, still 0-0
> Firmino, 0-1. These Weaufx Gods are not what they used to be...

Salah, 0-2. WWEPL quality comes through in the end.

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 by: Jesper Lauridsen - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:47 UTC

On 2022-02-16, Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:03:24 PM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>> I don't know why Nagelsman persists with playing all 4 of Coman,
>> Gnabry, Sane and Müller. It unbalances the team, they get in each
>> other's way, and you lose the option of putting in fresh firepower in
>> the second half. That has been the result every time.
>>
>> It's approaching Guardiola levels of stubbornness.
>
> Elsewhere, lowly Serie A outfit Inter are giving Liverpool a run for
> their money (please don't make me support the Immaculates...) 70th
> minute, still 0-0

Very subtle. And effective.

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 by: Al Kamista - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 22:00 UTC

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:45:46 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:37:12 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:29:55 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >
> > > Elsewhere, lowly Serie A outfit Inter are giving Liverpool a run for their money (please don't make me support the Immaculates...) 70th minute, still 0-0
> > Firmino, 0-1. These Weaufx Gods are not what they used to be...
> Salah, 0-2. WWEPL quality comes through in the end.

Inter were impressive. Not in terms of any particularly great football, but being very solid. The 0-2 scoreline was harsh on them.

Luiz Diaz looks like the real deal Holyfield, and then some.

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 by: Binder Dundat - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 22:18 UTC

Salzburg shouda made it 2-0, but instead, Sabitzer comes on and saves Bayern from defeat. Referee was terrible, easily 10 pks not given and at least the whole bayern team should have seen red cards.

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:47:11 p.m. UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> On 2022-02-16, Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:03:24 PM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> >> I don't know why Nagelsman persists with playing all 4 of Coman,
> >> Gnabry, Sane and Müller. It unbalances the team, they get in each
> >> other's way, and you lose the option of putting in fresh firepower in
> >> the second half. That has been the result every time.
> >>
> >> It's approaching Guardiola levels of stubbornness.
> >
> > Elsewhere, lowly Serie A outfit Inter are giving Liverpool a run for
> > their , but instead Sabitzer comes on for Bayern and changes the gmmoney (please don't make me support the Immaculates...) 70th
> > minute, still 0-0
> Very subtle. And effective.

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 by: The Doctor - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 23:14 UTC

In article <3e2e5e4d-47fb-4521-a6b8-5ae41cb952a1n@googlegroups.com>,
Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:
>Salzburg denied at least 10 clear penalty kick calls, playing the whole
>game in the Bayern half, Bayern kick and maim thugs trying to injure
>every Casino player, yet only 1-0 at the half for Salzburg.
>

Quel horreur!

>In local news Canadian govt invoking state of emergency to rid the
>capital of hot tubs, really sad day for hot tubbers, who had just give
>Canadians back their freedom

Voit conduire un camion.

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 by: The Doctor - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 23:14 UTC

In article <sujoqq$qj9$1@dont-email.me>,
Jesper Lauridsen <uselastnamedotfirstname@gmail.com> wrote:
>I don't know why Nagelsman persists with playing all 4 of Coman,
>Gnabry, Sane and M�ller. It unbalances the team, they get in each
>other's way, and you lose the option of putting in fresh firepower in
>the second half. That has been the result every time.
>
>It's approaching Guardiola levels of stubbornness.
>

Guardiola sucks!
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 by: The Doctor - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 23:14 UTC

In article <8da4bcd2-2212-4f5c-904c-7ce47e2a4f18n@googlegroups.com>,
Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:03:24 PM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>> I don't know why Nagelsman persists with playing all 4 of Coman,
>> Gnabry, Sane and Müller. It unbalances the team, they get in each
>> other's way, and you lose the option of putting in fresh firepower in
>> the second half. That has been the result every time.
>>
>> It's approaching Guardiola levels of stubbornness.
>
>Elsewhere, lowly Serie A outfit Inter are giving Liverpool a run for
>their money (please don't make me support the Immaculates...) 70th
>minute, still 0-0

Suddenly!
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On 2022-02-16 15:00, Al Kamista wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:45:46 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:37:12 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:29:55 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>>
>>>> Elsewhere, lowly Serie A outfit Inter are giving Liverpool a run for their money (please don't make me support the Immaculates...) 70th minute, still 0-0
>>> Firmino, 0-1. These Weaufx Gods are not what they used to be...
>> Salah, 0-2. WWEPL quality comes through in the end.
>
> Inter were impressive.

Certainly tenacious and quick to press and close down. Good tackling on
the whole. Liverpool a bit lethargic too, TAA in particular had a
lackadaisical game, and Thiago sort of drifted in and out of things.
If Inter had been more efficient during the first 20 minutes of the
second half when they were on top, they could easily have won. Bringing
on Keita (surprisingly) and Henderson stabilized things quite a lot, and
of course sub Firmino applied a nice finishing touch.

Not in terms of any particularly great football, but being very solid.
The 0-2 scoreline was harsh on them.
>
> Luiz Diaz looks like the real deal Holyfield, and then some.

He is full of enthusiasm and attacking intent, that's for sure.

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 by: Werner Pichler - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:52 UTC

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:03:24 PM UTC+1, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>

Managed to get last-minute tickets. A very fun/nerve-wracking match to attend.
The last-minute equaliser hurt, of course, but you can't exactly argue it wasn't deserved.
And with Away Goal Rule gone, it doesn't really matter all that much anymore - in
terms of psychology it's perhaps even better to start at 1-1 in Munich instead of 1-0
and then conceding within the first 20 minutes.

Still, if Adamu had scored into the gaping net, or laid the ball off, instead of hitting Pavard...
But the lad has done well. When Okafor limped off after ten minutes I already feared the
worst.

> I don't know why Nagelsman persists with playing all 4 of Coman,
> Gnabry, Sane and Müller.

It appeared to me that insisting on a back three was the bigger problem. All of
Süle, Hernandez, and Pavard struggled with Adeyemi's pace, and if the idea was
to create numerical superiority in midfield it clearly didn't work, at least in the first
half. At times it looked like a wonky 3-0-7 formation.

Ciao,
Werner

> It unbalances the team, they get in each
> other's way, and you lose the option of putting in fresh firepower in
> the second half. That has been the result every time.
>
> It's approaching Guardiola levels of stubbornness.

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On 2022-02-17, Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:03:24 PM UTC+1, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>>
>
> Managed to get last-minute tickets. A very fun/nerve-wracking match to attend.
> The last-minute equaliser hurt, of course, but you can't exactly
> argue it wasn't deserved.

Salzburg did seem to run out of gas, or wings, in the second half, but
still was close to taking the wind.

> And with Away Goal Rule gone, it doesn't really matter all that much anymore - in
> terms of psychology it's perhaps even better to start at 1-1 in Munich instead of 1-0
> and then conceding within the first 20 minutes.

Not much chance of that happening, the way Bayern has played the last
few weeks.

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 by: Werner Pichler - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 15:29 UTC

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:55:35 PM UTC+1, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> On 2022-02-17, Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:03:24 PM UTC+1, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> >>
> >
> > Managed to get last-minute tickets. A very fun/nerve-wracking match to attend.
> > The last-minute equaliser hurt, of course, but you can't exactly
> > argue it wasn't deserved.
>
> Salzburg did seem to run out of gas, or wings, in the second half, but
> still was close to taking the wind.
>
> > And with Away Goal Rule gone, it doesn't really matter all that much anymore - in
> > terms of psychology it's perhaps even better to start at 1-1 in Munich instead of 1-0
> > and then conceding within the first 20 minutes.
>
> Not much chance of that happening, the way Bayern has played the last
> few weeks.

Was that really necessary.

Ciao,
Werner

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 by: Jesper Lauridsen - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 22:27 UTC

On 2022-03-09, Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:55:35 PM UTC+1, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>> On 2022-02-17, Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > And with Away Goal Rule gone, it doesn't really matter all that much anymore - in
>> > terms of psychology it's perhaps even better to start at 1-1 in Munich instead of 1-0
>> > and then conceding within the first 20 minutes.
>>
>> Not much chance of that happening, the way Bayern has played the last
>> few weeks.
>
> Was that really necessary.

As you saw in Hoffenheim, yes. Yes it was.

This 7-1 reminds me, in result, not in play, of a CL match against
Basel, that I attended 10 years ago today. Basel had won the first leg
1-0, and in the liga, Bayern was in the process of throwing away a
solid lead to Klopp's Dortmund. The result was a very nervous
atmosphere.

Which made the 7-0 result all the more enjoyable.

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