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Subject: Did I miss something, Livescore? Benfica and Atletico on AGG?
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by: juanva...@gmail.com - Wed, 16 Mar 2022 05:11 UTC

I thought AGG meant Aggregate, which stands for the situation when a team advances on equal points but with a better goal aggregate or goal difference, as Real Madrid did last week. Level on points, better goal difference.

But have a look at this:

https://jmp.sh/fG3t1KZ

That is not the case with Ajax-Benfica nor MUFC-Atletico Madrid.

In both cases the qualified teams advanced on POINTS.

Benfica 2 - Ajax 2; Ajax 0 - Benfica 1
Benfica 4 points; Ajax 1 point

Atletico Madrid 2 - MUFC 2; MUFC 0 - Atletico Madrid 1
Atletico Madrid 4 points; MUFC 1 point.
Is the clumsy intern to blame again?

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Subject: Re: Did I miss something, Livescore? Benfica and Atletico on AGG?
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by: Ion Saliu - Wed, 16 Mar 2022 10:50 UTC

On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 7:11:43 AM UTC+2, juanva...@gmail.com wrote:
> I thought AGG meant Aggregate, which stands for the situation when a team advances on equal points but with a better goal aggregate or goal difference, as Real Madrid did last week. Level on points, better goal difference.
>
> But have a look at this:
>
> https://jmp.sh/fG3t1KZ
>
> That is not the case with Ajax-Benfica nor MUFC-Atletico Madrid.
>
> In both cases the qualified teams advanced on POINTS.
>
> Benfica 2 - Ajax 2; Ajax 0 - Benfica 1
> Benfica 4 points; Ajax 1 point
>
> Atletico Madrid 2 - MUFC 2; MUFC 0 - Atletico Madrid 1
> Atletico Madrid 4 points; MUFC 1 point.
>
> Is the clumsy intern to blame again?

Don Juan:

Glad you’re back, axiomático! Hope you wasn’t under arrest or somethin’...God forbid!

Now, ‘aggregate’ means just that, like ‘cumulative’. UEFA dropped the decades-old rule that counted as double the away goals in case of a two-leg tie.

By the old rule, you was correct in counting as “4” the 2 goals scored by Ajax in Lisbon (“away”). “2” is, again, equal to “2”. So, the rule as you knew it no longer applies. Had Ajax – Benfica ended 0 – 0, a 30-minute overtime would have followed. The aggregate score would have been 2 – 2, not 4 – 2, hence the overtime.

It didn’t matter anyway. Both Benfica and Atletico won 1 – 0 and qualified without any other criterIon.

Ion (like Juan)

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Subject: Re: Did I miss something, Livescore? Benfica and Atletico on AGG?
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by: juanva...@gmail.com - Wed, 16 Mar 2022 12:51 UTC

On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 12:50:47 UTC+2, ions...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 7:11:43 AM UTC+2, juanva...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I thought AGG meant Aggregate, which stands for the situation when a team advances on equal points but with a better goal aggregate or goal difference, as Real Madrid did last week. Level on points, better goal difference..
> >
> > But have a look at this:
> >
> > https://jmp.sh/fG3t1KZ
> >
> > That is not the case with Ajax-Benfica nor MUFC-Atletico Madrid.
> >
> > In both cases the qualified teams advanced on POINTS.
> >
> > Benfica 2 - Ajax 2; Ajax 0 - Benfica 1
> > Benfica 4 points; Ajax 1 point
> >
> > Atletico Madrid 2 - MUFC 2; MUFC 0 - Atletico Madrid 1
> > Atletico Madrid 4 points; MUFC 1 point.
> >
> > Is the clumsy intern to blame again?
> Don Juan:
>
> Glad you’re back, axiomático! Hope you wasn’t under arrest or somethin’...God forbid!
>
> Now, ‘aggregate’ means just that, like ‘cumulative’. UEFA dropped the decades-old rule that counted as double the away goals in case of a two-leg tie.
>
> By the old rule, you was correct in counting as “4” the 2 goals scored by Ajax in Lisbon (“away”). “2” is, again, equal to “2”. So, the rule as you knew it no longer applies. Had Ajax – Benfica ended 0 – 0, a 30-minute overtime would have followed. The aggregate score would have been 2 – 2, not 4 – 2, hence the overtime.
>
> It didn’t matter anyway. Both Benfica and Atletico won 1 – 0 and qualified without any other criterIon.
>

Thanks, Ion.

Yes. I'm aware that UEFA or FIFA dropped the away goal rule, what I mean is that in the two legged match Benfica and Atletico won 1 game (3 points) and draw one (1 point) for a total of 4 points, whereas Ajax and MUFC only got 1 point each for a draw each. Nothing to do with sum or Aggregate goals in the two games.

In the Real Madrid - PSG match they got 3 point each, but RM got 3 goals and PSG 2, which can count as RM advancing on Aggregate or sum of goals.

The intern could say that he believed Aggregate was referred to the sum of points.

But, I rest my case on the clumsy intern. :-DDD

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by: Jesus Petry - Wed, 16 Mar 2022 14:33 UTC

Em quarta-feira, 16 de março de 2022 às 09:51:49 UTC-3, juanva...@gmail.com escreveu:
> On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 12:50:47 UTC+2, ions...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 7:11:43 AM UTC+2, juanva...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I thought AGG meant Aggregate, which stands for the situation when a team advances on equal points but with a better goal aggregate or goal difference, as Real Madrid did last week. Level on points, better goal difference.
> > >
> > > But have a look at this:
> > >
> > > https://jmp.sh/fG3t1KZ
> > >
> > > That is not the case with Ajax-Benfica nor MUFC-Atletico Madrid.
> > >
> > > In both cases the qualified teams advanced on POINTS.
> > >
> > > Benfica 2 - Ajax 2; Ajax 0 - Benfica 1
> > > Benfica 4 points; Ajax 1 point
> > >
> > > Atletico Madrid 2 - MUFC 2; MUFC 0 - Atletico Madrid 1
> > > Atletico Madrid 4 points; MUFC 1 point.
> > >
> > > Is the clumsy intern to blame again?
> > Don Juan:
> >
> > Glad you’re back, axiomático! Hope you wasn’t under arrest or somethin’...God forbid!
> >
> > Now, ‘aggregate’ means just that, like ‘cumulative’. UEFA dropped the decades-old rule that counted as double the away goals in case of a two-leg tie.
> >
> > By the old rule, you was correct in counting as “4” the 2 goals scored by Ajax in Lisbon (“away”). “2” is, again, equal to “2”. So, the rule as you knew it no longer applies. Had Ajax – Benfica ended 0 – 0, a 30-minute overtime would have followed. The aggregate score would have been 2 – 2, not 4 – 2, hence the overtime.
> >
> > It didn’t matter anyway. Both Benfica and Atletico won 1 – 0 and qualified without any other criterIon.
> >
> Thanks, Ion.
>
> Yes. I'm aware that UEFA or FIFA dropped the away goal rule, what I mean is that in the two legged match Benfica and Atletico won 1 game (3 points) and draw one (1 point) for a total of 4 points, whereas Ajax and MUFC only got 1 point each for a draw each. Nothing to do with sum or Aggregate goals in the two games.
>
> In the Real Madrid - PSG match they got 3 point each, but RM got 3 goals and PSG 2, which can count as RM advancing on Aggregate or sum of goals.
>
> The intern could say that he believed Aggregate was referred to the sum of points.
>
> But, I rest my case on the clumsy intern. :-DDD

Hey, Juan! Nice to hear from you again!

Live Score has always used the indication "AGG" for a team that won a two-legged playoff, it doesn't matter if it won by points, goals or away goals.

Tchau!
Jesus Petry

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by: juanva...@gmail.com - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 13:19 UTC

On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 16:33:25 UTC+2, jesu...@ wrote:
> Em quarta-feira, 16 de março de 2022 às 09:51:49 UTC-3, juanvi....@ escreveu:

> Hey, Juan! Nice to hear from you again!
>
> Live Score has always used the indication "AGG" for a team that won a two-legged playoff, it doesn't matter if it won by points, goals or away goals..
>

Thank, Jesus.

Yes, I did miss something... :-|

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Did I miss something, Livescore? Benfica and Atletico on AGG?	juanva...@gmail.com
Re: Did I miss something, Livescore? Benfica and Atletico on AGG?	Ion Saliu
Re: Did I miss something, Livescore? Benfica and Atletico on AGG?	juanva...@gmail.com
Re: Did I miss something, Livescore? Benfica and Atletico on AGG?	Jesus Petry
Re: Did I miss something, Livescore? Benfica and Atletico on AGG?	juanva...@gmail.com