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 by: Binder Dundat - Tue, 22 Mar 2022 13:28 UTC

Another international break, the last one with the final World Cup qualifying week, almost.

Out of Africa, the final 5 will be decided this week, home and away games Friday and next Tuesday. Some interesting matches. Revenge for Egypt?

DR Kongo vs Marokko

Kamerun vs Algerien

Mali vs Tunesien

Ägypten vs Senegal

Ghana vs Nigeria

UEFA is all complicated by the War, Ukrania may play Scotland in June, if it is still standing or a country anymore. That Putin fella really is a bad egg.

So we have 12 second place teams competing for 3 spots. From what I understand, only single games ( no home and away) not sure how home teams were decided. Russian Federation of Footballers thrown out so Poland got a bye.

WAL/AUT
SCO/UKR

Can Austria make it out of these four? Not impossible

Polen vs
SWE/CZE

POR/TUR vs
ITA/MKD

Probably the most interesting pairing, one assume Portugal and Italy come through to play next week

Asia is almost decided, South Korea and Iran qualify from group A, so Group A is done. Group B is interesting and it is between Japan, Saudi Arabia and Australia. If I understand correctly the top two are automatically qualified and the third will go into an inter continental match with the South America 5th place.

Gr. B
Pl. Team Sp. Diff. Pkt.
1 Saudi-Arabien 8 5 19
2 Japan 8 6 18
3 Australien 8 9 15
4 Oman 8 -2 8
5 China 8 -8 5
6 Vietnam 8 -10 3

Australia's two remaining games are against Japan and S arabia, so if Japan and S Arabia win their other match, then Australia could be tied with Japan and decided by whatever method the use to decide. All very complex, not to mention, how do you know that Australia will beat them?.

South America final two games. Brazil and Argentina qualified, Ecuador at least make the inter continental play off, so two spots left, I would say between Peru Chile, Uruguay and maybe Colombia. It is all very complicated and not looking good for Chile

Uruguay
vs
Peru

Kolumbien
vs
Bolivien

Brasilien
vs
Chile

Paraguay
vs
Ecuador

Argentinien
vs
Venezuela

Venezuela
vs
Kolumbien

Bolivien
vs
Brasilien

Ecuador
vs
Argentinien

Peru
vs
Paraguay

Chile
vs
Uruguay

And the most Rockingest confederation is set for the most dramatic and rocking finale any Confederation could hope for. We are so rocking that they are somehow gonna fit 3 games in this international break, all the other weak and puny confederations only play two games, and CONCACAF is like ten time bigger than any other continent, the travel alone would kill any other confederation, so you can really see just how rocking we are in CONCACAF.

Never been a war in CONCACAF either, well except for that war that was actually caused by a CONCACAF game, but otherwise we just rock and love and peace, maybe smoke a bit of ganja, have a few Banks beer and then cram 3 matches in a week.

Canada needs maybe one point from those 3 games. As an example of travel distances, Canada will play in COsta Rica late Thursday night, then come all the way back to Canada (around a 22 hour flight direct) for Sunday to play against Jamaica, (Spring has ended and winter has returned here, so it might be a bit of an ice or snow game) and then back on the bike and row boat and back to Panama for Wednesday night. Kinda tough games especially since Panama and Costa Rica needs wins. Jamaica is already out and hopefully Kanada gets their point or points from that match.

USA play Mexico in one of the matches, I think a draw in that match would qualify Canada as well? USA actually have some tough matches as well and of the three (CAN MEX USA) look the most likely not to make it. Worst case scenario for Kanada is the intercontinental play off vs New Zealand. Panama or Costa Rica will be 4th. Again, this is all very complex and cant be understood, by non CONCACAFians.

Oh yeah, that Oceanai group I think is still going on and will be won by New Zealand at some point if not already won by them.

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 by: Werner Pichler - Tue, 22 Mar 2022 15:01 UTC

On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 2:28:34 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> Another international break, the last one with the final World Cup qualifying week, almost.
>
> Out of Africa, the final 5 will be decided this week, home and away games Friday and next Tuesday. Some interesting matches. Revenge for Egypt?
>
>
> DR Kongo vs Marokko
>
> Kamerun vs Algerien
>
> Mali vs Tunesien
>
> Ägypten vs Senegal
>
> Ghana vs Nigeria
>
> UEFA is all complicated by the War, Ukrania may play Scotland in June, if it is still standing or a country anymore.

Unsurprisingly, FIFA are making a mess of things regarding the draw, and I guess we could actually have a group with four UEFA teams in it?

https://twitter.com/tgloban/status/1506278094247800834?t=_6aYBf31avXgEJInMTWM3g

Ciao,
Werner

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 by: MH - Tue, 22 Mar 2022 15:31 UTC

On 2022-03-22 07:28, Binder Dundat wrote:
> Another international break, the last one with the final World Cup qualifying week, almost.
>

>
>
> Asia is almost decided, South Korea and Iran qualify from group A, so Group A is done. Group B is interesting and it is between Japan, Saudi Arabia and Australia. If I understand correctly the top two are automatically qualified and the third will go into an inter continental match with the South America 5th place.

The two thirds play off in a single match in Qatar for the right to play
off in a single match in Qatar against the 5th place CONMEBOL team.
>
> Gr. B
> Pl. Team Sp. Diff. Pkt.
> 1 Saudi-Arabien 8 5 19
> 2 Japan 8 6 18
> 3 Australien 8 9 15
> 4 Oman 8 -2 8
> 5 China 8 -8 5
> 6 Vietnam 8 -10 3
>
> Australia's two remaining games are against Japan and S arabia, so if Japan and S Arabia win their other match, then Australia could be tied with Japan and decided by whatever method the use to decide. All very complex, not to mention, how do you know that Australia will beat them?.
>

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 by: Werner Pichler - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:31 UTC

On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 2:28:34 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> Another international break, the last one with the final World Cup qualifying week, almost.
>
>
> Gr. B
> Pl. Team Sp. Diff. Pkt.
> 1 Saudi-Arabien 8 5 19
> 2 Japan 8 6 18
> 3 Australien 8 9 15
> 4 Oman 8 -2 8
> 5 China 8 -8 5
> 6 Vietnam 8 -10 3
>
> Australia's two remaining games are against Japan and S arabia, so if Japan and S Arabia win their other match, then Australia could be tied with Japan and
> decided by whatever method the use to decide. All very complex, not to mention, how do you know that Australia will beat them?.

The Australians play poorly and concede twice in the dying minutes against Japan, and all those complexities are settled.

Australia in a play-off against CONMEBOL, what could go wrong?

Ciao,
Werner

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 by: Binder Dundat - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 13:34 UTC

On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 7:31:06 a.m. UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 2:28:34 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > Another international break, the last one with the final World Cup qualifying week, almost.
> >
> >
> > Gr. B
> > Pl. Team Sp. Diff. Pkt.
> > 1 Saudi-Arabien 8 5 19
> > 2 Japan 8 6 18
> > 3 Australien 8 9 15
> > 4 Oman 8 -2 8
> > 5 China 8 -8 5
> > 6 Vietnam 8 -10 3
> >
> > Australia's two remaining games are against Japan and S arabia, so if Japan and S Arabia win their other match, then Australia could be tied with Japan and
> > decided by whatever method the use to decide. All very complex, not to mention, how do you know that Australia will beat them?.
> The Australians play poorly and concede twice in the dying minutes against Japan, and all those complexities are settled.
>
> Australia in a play-off against CONMEBOL, what could go wrong?

I thought the best 3rd place team goes directly vs the S American team, but as MH said, they have the match vs the other 3rd place team in Qatar, which based upon Syria leading Lebanon 3-0 in the 60 min, looks like it will be UAE. So yeah, Asia more or less decided with out much complexity.

>
> Ciao,
> Werner

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 by: Lléo - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 14:59 UTC

Werner Pichler escreveu:
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 2:28:34 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > Another international break, the last one with the final World Cup qualifying
> > week, almost.
> >
> >
> > Gr. B
> > Pl. Team Sp. Diff. Pkt.
> > 1 Saudi-Arabien 8 5 19
> > 2 Japan 8 6 18
> > 3 Australien 8 9 15
> > 4 Oman 8 -2 8
> > 5 China 8 -8 5
> > 6 Vietnam 8 -10 3
> >
> > Australia's two remaining games are against Japan and S arabia, so if Japan
> > and S Arabia win their other match, then Australia could be tied with Japan
> > and decided by whatever method the use to decide. All very complex, not to
> > mention, how do you know that Australia will beat them?.
>
> The Australians play poorly and concede twice in the dying minutes against Japan,
> and all those complexities are settled.

Australians conceding two late goals at home. I was reminded of 1997, but of course
that was an actual do-or-die situation.

> Australia in a play-off against CONMEBOL, what could go wrong?

I guess it depends on the opponent. I don't know much about the current Australian team,
but Elo Ratings seems to suggest that any of Uruguay, Peru, Chile or Colombia would be a
tough match for them. Then again, it is a single leg affair now.

--
Lléo

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On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 1:28:34 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:

> And the most Rockingest confederation is set for the most dramatic and rocking finale any Confederation could hope for. We are so rocking that they are somehow gonna fit 3 games in this international break, all the other weak and puny confederations only play two games, and CONCACAF is like ten time bigger than any other continent, the travel alone would kill any other confederation, so you can really see just how rocking we are in CONCACAF.

Oceania is the rockingest confederation. FIVE games fitted in between March 17 and March 30! Cook islands and Vanuatu withdrew because of Covid 19 outbreaks in the squads! New Zealand only won 1-0 against Papua New Guinea, but as you say, will still win it.

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 by: Binder Dundat - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 18:02 UTC

On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 9:28:34 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> Another international break, the last one with the final World Cup qualifying week, almost.
>
> Out of Africa, the final 5 will be decided this week, home and away games Friday and next Tuesday. Some interesting matches. Revenge for Egypt?
>
>
> DR Kongo vs Marokko
>
> Kamerun vs Algerien
>
> Mali vs Tunesien
>
> Ägypten vs Senegal
>
> Ghana vs Nigeria
>
> UEFA is all complicated by the War, Ukrania may play Scotland in June, if it is still standing or a country anymore. That Putin fella really is a bad egg.
>
> So we have 12 second place teams competing for 3 spots. From what I understand, only single games ( no home and away) not sure how home teams were decided. Russian Federation of Footballers thrown out so Poland got a bye.
>
>
> WAL/AUT
> SCO/UKR
>
> Can Austria make it out of these four? Not impossible

Wait a second, Austria got in this through the Nations League thing?!?!?
What a scam.

>
> Polen vs
> SWE/CZE
>
> POR/TUR vs
> ITA/MKD
>
> Probably the most interesting pairing, one assume Portugal and Italy come through to play next week
>
>
> Asia is almost decided, South Korea and Iran qualify from group A, so Group A is done. Group B is interesting and it is between Japan, Saudi Arabia and Australia. If I understand correctly the top two are automatically qualified and the third will go into an inter continental match with the South America 5th place.
>
> Gr. B
> Pl. Team Sp. Diff. Pkt.
> 1 Saudi-Arabien 8 5 19
> 2 Japan 8 6 18
> 3 Australien 8 9 15
> 4 Oman 8 -2 8
> 5 China 8 -8 5
> 6 Vietnam 8 -10 3
>
> Australia's two remaining games are against Japan and S arabia, so if Japan and S Arabia win their other match, then Australia could be tied with Japan and decided by whatever method the use to decide. All very complex, not to mention, how do you know that Australia will beat them?.
>
>
>
> South America final two games. Brazil and Argentina qualified, Ecuador at least make the inter continental play off, so two spots left, I would say between Peru Chile, Uruguay and maybe Colombia. It is all very complicated and not looking good for Chile
>
>
> Uruguay
> vs
> Peru
>
> Kolumbien
> vs
> Bolivien
>
> Brasilien
> vs
> Chile
>
> Paraguay
> vs
> Ecuador
>
> Argentinien
> vs
> Venezuela
>
>
>
>
> Venezuela
> vs
> Kolumbien
>
> Bolivien
> vs
> Brasilien
>
> Ecuador
> vs
> Argentinien
>
> Peru
> vs
> Paraguay
>
> Chile
> vs
> Uruguay
>
> And the most Rockingest confederation is set for the most dramatic and rocking finale any Confederation could hope for. We are so rocking that they are somehow gonna fit 3 games in this international break, all the other weak and puny confederations only play two games, and CONCACAF is like ten time bigger than any other continent, the travel alone would kill any other confederation, so you can really see just how rocking we are in CONCACAF.
>
> Never been a war in CONCACAF either, well except for that war that was actually caused by a CONCACAF game, but otherwise we just rock and love and peace, maybe smoke a bit of ganja, have a few Banks beer and then cram 3 matches in a week.
>
> Canada needs maybe one point from those 3 games. As an example of travel distances, Canada will play in COsta Rica late Thursday night, then come all the way back to Canada (around a 22 hour flight direct) for Sunday to play against Jamaica, (Spring has ended and winter has returned here, so it might be a bit of an ice or snow game) and then back on the bike and row boat and back to Panama for Wednesday night. Kinda tough games especially since Panama and Costa Rica needs wins. Jamaica is already out and hopefully Kanada gets their point or points from that match.
>
> USA play Mexico in one of the matches, I think a draw in that match would qualify Canada as well? USA actually have some tough matches as well and of the three (CAN MEX USA) look the most likely not to make it. Worst case scenario for Kanada is the intercontinental play off vs New Zealand. Panama or Costa Rica will be 4th. Again, this is all very complex and cant be understood, by non CONCACAFians.
>
> Oh yeah, that Oceanai group I think is still going on and will be won by New Zealand at some point if not already won by them.

New Zealand leading an even newer Caledonia 3-1. I am sorta watching the Iraq v UAE 0-0 ht.

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 by: MH - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 18:44 UTC

On 2022-03-24 07:34, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 7:31:06 a.m. UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 2:28:34 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
>>> Another international break, the last one with the final World Cup qualifying week, almost.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gr. B
>>> Pl. Team Sp. Diff. Pkt.
>>> 1 Saudi-Arabien 8 5 19
>>> 2 Japan 8 6 18
>>> 3 Australien 8 9 15
>>> 4 Oman 8 -2 8
>>> 5 China 8 -8 5
>>> 6 Vietnam 8 -10 3
>>>
>>> Australia's two remaining games are against Japan and S arabia, so if Japan and S Arabia win their other match, then Australia could be tied with Japan and
>>> decided by whatever method the use to decide. All very complex, not to mention, how do you know that Australia will beat them?.
>> The Australians play poorly and concede twice in the dying minutes against Japan, and all those complexities are settled.
>>
>> Australia in a play-off against CONMEBOL, what could go wrong?
>
> I thought the best 3rd place team goes directly vs the S American team, but as MH said, they have the match vs the other 3rd place team in Qatar, which based upon Syria leading Lebanon 3-0 in the 60 min, looks like it will be UAE. So yeah, Asia more or less decided with out much complexity.

Iraq leading UAE right now, so it could be any of the teams currently
ranked 3-6 in this group, except for Syria, that the Aussies have to
play (assuming Iraq hangs on)

Final round of matches:

Iran - Lebanon
UAE - S. Korea
Syria - Iraq

Iraq finishing third seems quite likely. Lebanon would be fun, though I
would not fancy their chances against either Australia or the CONMEBOL
5th place.

>
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Werner

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On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 2:02:46 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >
> > POR/TUR vs
> > ITA/MKD

Confirmed Italy lineup

Donnarumma
Florenzi G. Mancini Bastoni Emerson
Barella Jorginho Verratti
Berardi Immobile Insigne

The front 6 is basically the starting lineup from the Euros, while the back line is almost entirely new: Bonucci is still nursing an injury, Chiellini is on the bench and is probably being saved for the next game, Di Lorenzo is out with a long-term injury. but Emerson and Florenzi were part of the squad at the Euros.

Hopefully this is enough for North Macedonia, but the lack of attacking talent will make everything difficult.

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 by: Binder Dundat - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:13 UTC

On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 2:44:34 p.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:
> On 2022-03-24 07:34, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 7:31:06 a.m. UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 2:28:34 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >>> Another international break, the last one with the final World Cup qualifying week, almost.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gr. B
> >>> Pl. Team Sp. Diff. Pkt.
> >>> 1 Saudi-Arabien 8 5 19
> >>> 2 Japan 8 6 18
> >>> 3 Australien 8 9 15
> >>> 4 Oman 8 -2 8
> >>> 5 China 8 -8 5
> >>> 6 Vietnam 8 -10 3
> >>>
> >>> Australia's two remaining games are against Japan and S arabia, so if Japan and S Arabia win their other match, then Australia could be tied with Japan and
> >>> decided by whatever method the use to decide. All very complex, not to mention, how do you know that Australia will beat them?.
> >> The Australians play poorly and concede twice in the dying minutes against Japan, and all those complexities are settled.
> >>
> >> Australia in a play-off against CONMEBOL, what could go wrong?
> >
> > I thought the best 3rd place team goes directly vs the S American team, but as MH said, they have the match vs the other 3rd place team in Qatar, which based upon Syria leading Lebanon 3-0 in the 60 min, looks like it will be UAE. So yeah, Asia more or less decided with out much complexity.
> Iraq leading UAE right now, so it could be any of the teams currently
> ranked 3-6 in this group, except for Syria, that the Aussies have to
> play (assuming Iraq hangs on)
>
> Final round of matches:
>
> Iran - Lebanon
> UAE - S. Korea
> Syria - Iraq
>
> Iraq finishing third seems quite likely. Lebanon would be fun, though I
> would not fancy their chances against either Australia or the CONMEBOL
> 5th place.

Had UAE won then it would have been all done, but now Iraq does look the most likely, unless Iran and S Korea field B teams. So good on AFC to keep it Rocking.

Meanwhile in Oceania
New Zealand 7 - 1 New Caledonia

It is still early, not a lot of results in yet, but we are Projecting New Zealand to top the group.

>
>
> >
> >>
> >> Ciao,
> >> Werner

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 by: Binder Dundat - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:32 UTC

I guess UEFA TV only shows games that are not Broadcast in your country. THey are showing either Wales vs Austria or Sweden vs Czech. The other two games are on TV here. Or maybe they are just showing the games with the UEFA Nations league teams involved?

I dont know, I think I would be pissed off if I was Wales and Sweden and were beaten by Nations liga free loaders Czech and Austria.

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On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 3:32:53 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> I guess UEFA TV only shows games that are not Broadcast in your country. THey are showing either Wales vs Austria or Sweden vs Czech. The other two games are on TV here. Or maybe they are just showing the games with the UEFA Nations league teams involved?
>
> I dont know, I think I would be pissed off if I was Wales and Sweden and were beaten by Nations liga free loaders Czech and Austria.

18 minutes in, Italy dominating possession, and some nice intricate passing moves. But the final product is missing.

Portugal up 1-0 over Turkey.

0-0 in the other two matches.

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 by: Jesus Petry - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 20:07 UTC

Em quinta-feira, 24 de março de 2022 às 14:30:20 UTC-3, Mark escreveu:
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 1:28:34 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
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> > And the most Rockingest confederation is set for the most dramatic and rocking finale any Confederation could hope for. We are so rocking that they are somehow gonna fit 3 games in this international break, all the other weak and puny confederations only play two games, and CONCACAF is like ten time bigger than any other continent, the travel alone would kill any other confederation, so you can really see just how rocking we are in CONCACAF.
> Oceania is the rockingest confederation. FIVE games fitted in between March 17 and March 30! Cook islands and Vanuatu withdrew because of Covid 19 outbreaks in the squads! New Zealand only won 1-0 against Papua New Guinea, but as you say, will still win it.

You do realize Papua New Guinea's population is actually bigger than New Zealand's?

Tchau!
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On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:07:21 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 3:32:53 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > I guess UEFA TV only shows games that are not Broadcast in your country.. THey are showing either Wales vs Austria or Sweden vs Czech. The other two games are on TV here. Or maybe they are just showing the games with the UEFA Nations league teams involved?
> >
> > I dont know, I think I would be pissed off if I was Wales and Sweden and were beaten by Nations liga free loaders Czech and Austria.
> 18 minutes in, Italy dominating possession, and some nice intricate passing moves. But the final product is missing.
>

TransferMarkt values of some "randomly" selected UEFA WCQ (today's starting lineups):

Italy 43.1
Portugal 36.6

When you break it down by defense (GK + defenders) and attack (midfield+forwards)

Italy: DEF 37.6, ATT 47.7
Portugal: DEF: 17.2, ATT 52.7

Of course we are still a long way away from a Portugal-Italy matchup for the last playoff spot.

Italy still dominating possession, but their best chance has come off a hospital pass by the Macedonian goalkeeper, Berardi in front of an open goal kindly returned the hospital pass back to the goalie.

Italy collecting a lot of corners, which then turn to naught as the French referee calls Italian fouls

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> Italy collecting a lot of corners, which then turn to naught as the French referee calls Italian fouls

Wales up 1-0

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On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:29:49 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:24:47 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
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> > Italy collecting a lot of corners, which then turn to naught as the French referee calls Italian fouls
> Wales up 1-0

ITA-MKD 0-0 at the half. Ugh.

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On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:33:52 p.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:29:49 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:24:47 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
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> > > Italy collecting a lot of corners, which then turn to naught as the French referee calls Italian fouls
> > Wales up 1-0
> ITA-MKD 0-0 at the half. Ugh.

Wales 1 - 0 Austria ht

Not a very Rocking performance by Austria, Sabitzer hit the post early, but it has been Wales dominating almost every aspect of the match. Kind of needless foul leading to the Wales goal, which was a nice free kick by Bale. Do we actually know why Bale does not get picked by Real for what seems the last 5 years.

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> Of course we are still a long way away from a Portugal-Italy matchup for the last playoff spot.

With their fearsome attacking talent, Portugal are holding up their end of the deal. 2-0 up at halftime, goal by Diogo Jota.
Italy, not so much.

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On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:50:32 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:24:47 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >
> > Of course we are still a long way away from a Portugal-Italy matchup for the last playoff spot.
> With their fearsome attacking talent, Portugal are holding up their end of the deal. 2-0 up at halftime, goal by Diogo Jota.
> Italy, not so much.

Things not improving for Italy, and in fact the North Macedonians have picked up some courage and have started to venture forward more. Just a couple of long range efforts that haven't troubled Donnarumma.

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On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 5:08:23 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:50:32 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:24:47 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > >
> > > Of course we are still a long way away from a Portugal-Italy matchup for the last playoff spot.
> > With their fearsome attacking talent, Portugal are holding up their end of the deal. 2-0 up at halftime, goal by Diogo Jota.
> > Italy, not so much.
> Things not improving for Italy, and in fact the North Macedonians have picked up some courage and have started to venture forward more. Just a couple of long range efforts that haven't troubled Donnarumma.

POR-TUR 2-1
WAL-AUT 2-1

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On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 5:10:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 5:08:23 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:50:32 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:24:47 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Of course we are still a long way away from a Portugal-Italy matchup for the last playoff spot.
> > > With their fearsome attacking talent, Portugal are holding up their end of the deal. 2-0 up at halftime, goal by Diogo Jota.
> > > Italy, not so much.
> > Things not improving for Italy, and in fact the North Macedonians have picked up some courage and have started to venture forward more. Just a couple of long range efforts that haven't troubled Donnarumma.
> POR-TUR 2-1
> WAL-AUT 2-1

80th-ish minute:

ITA-MKD 0-0
POR-TUR 2-1
WAL -AUT 2-1
SWE - CZE 0-0

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On 2022-03-24 15:10, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 5:08:23 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>> On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:50:32 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>> On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:24:47 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Of course we are still a long way away from a Portugal-Italy matchup for the last playoff spot.
>>> With their fearsome attacking talent, Portugal are holding up their end of the deal. 2-0 up at halftime, goal by Diogo Jota.
>>> Italy, not so much.
>> Things not improving for Italy, and in fact the North Macedonians have picked up some courage and have started to venture forward more. Just a couple of long range efforts that haven't troubled Donnarumma.
>
> POR-TUR 2-1
> WAL-AUT 2-1

In a friendly, Scotland lead Poland 1-0. But Poland will now introduce
Lewandowski who will promptly score a hat-trick.

This was a very hastily arranged Friendly due to the cancellation of
Poland- Russia, and postponement of Scotland - Ukraine. Scotland next
plays a friendly against the loser of Wales-Austria.

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On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 5:25:34 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 5:10:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 5:08:23 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:50:32 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 4:24:47 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course we are still a long way away from a Portugal-Italy matchup for the last playoff spot.
> > > > With their fearsome attacking talent, Portugal are holding up their end of the deal. 2-0 up at halftime, goal by Diogo Jota.
> > > > Italy, not so much.
> > > Things not improving for Italy, and in fact the North Macedonians have picked up some courage and have started to venture forward more. Just a couple of long range efforts that haven't troubled Donnarumma.
> > POR-TUR 2-1
> > WAL-AUT 2-1
> 80th-ish minute:
>
> ITA-MKD 0-0
> POR-TUR 2-1
> WAL -AUT 2-1
> SWE - CZE 0-0

Burak Yilmaz misses a penalty that could have sent Turkey to ET in the 85'. Still 2-1

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On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 5:31:36 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Burak Yilmaz misses a penalty that could have sent Turkey to ET in the 85'. Still 2-1

Chiellini and Joao Pedro now coming on for Italy. 89', still 0-0

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