Since the beginning of time people have debated whether the Europa League or the Europa Confrence League is better. If you asked me about 3 hours ago, I would have said, "What the Hell is the Europa Conference League?" and "of course the Europa league is better".

In a very conclusive and scientific study, we can lookk at the two early games today,
Leipzig v Atalanta
and
Feyenoord v Slavia Prague

I watched the Red Bull v Atalanta match. Atalanta should have had a bigger lead than 1-0 at half time and Red Bull will be a bit disappointed they did not have a 2-1 lead at the end of the 2nd half, but in the end, maybe 1-1 was about right.

Now going strictly by the numbers the Feynoord v Praga match was better, three times better, it ended 3-3.

So there you have it all very scientific, but the Conference League is better

EUROPA

RB Leipzig
1 Atalanta
1
HT
Eintracht Frankfurt
0 Barcelona
0 Frankfurt actually doing well and probably had the better chances.

HT
SC Braga
1 Rangers
0
HT
West Ham
0 Lyon
0

CONFERENCE

FT Feyenoord 3 - 3 Slavia Praha
' Leicester City 0 - 0 PSV
Bodø / Glimt 0 - 1 Roma
Olympique Marseille 2 - 0 PAOK

On 2022-04-07, Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Bodø / Glimt 0 - 1 Roma

Bodø already thrashed Roma this season, so why are they playing again?

So if we take this study to the next level and include all games today, we have

Europa League three 1-1 draws and a measly 1-0 win for a total of 6 points and 7 goals.

07.04.22 19:45 FT RB Leipzig 1 - 1 Atalanta (0 - 1)
07.04.22 22:00 FT Eintracht Frankfurt 1 - 1 Barcelona (0 - 0)
It is already April 7 today! Wow, where did March go? Eintracht with a huge shock result, possibly the biggest shock in the history of football , what is even mote shocking, they were unlucky not to win.

07.04.22 22:00 FT * SC Braga 1 - 0 Rangers (1 - 0)
07.04.22 22:00 FT West Ham 1 - 1 Lyon (0 - 0)

vs a 3-3 and 0-0 draw and two 2-1 wins for a total of 8 points and 12 goals for the Conference.
The science doesnt lie. If we want to be truly all scientific, we would incorporate the next legs results and the amount of games going to ET and PKs, that would conclusively tell us the better liga

07.04.22 19:45 FT Feyenoord 3 - 3 Slavia Praha (1 - 1)
07.04.22 22:00 FT * Bodo/Glimt 2 - 1 AS Roma (0 - 1)
07.04.22 22:00 FT Leicester 0 - 0 PSV Eindhoven (0 - 0)
07.04.22 22:00 FT * Marseille 2 - 1 PAOK

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 4:51:22 p.m. UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> On 2022-04-07, Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Bodų / Glimt 0 - 1 Roma
>
> Bodų already thrashed Roma this season, so why are they playing again?

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:08:45 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> Since the beginning of time people have debated whether the Europa League or the Europa Confrence League is better.

More to the point - has the Conference League achieved what it set out to? Perhaps judgement shouldn't be made after only one season but the last 8 seems to have a lot of Europa League level sides and not the "third tier" European sides I thought the tournament was supposed to be giving a chance to?

RM

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 10:37:50 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:08:45 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > Since the beginning of time people have debated whether the Europa League or the Europa Confrence League is better.
> More to the point - has the Conference League achieved what it set out to? Perhaps judgement shouldn't be made after only one season but the last 8 seems to have a lot of Europa League level sides and not the "third tier" European sides I thought the tournament was supposed to be giving a chance to?
>
>
> RM

What the Hell is the Europa Conference League?
Seriously though, I've got no idea!

Mark wrote:

> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 10:37:50 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:08:45 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat
> > wrote:
> > > Since the beginning of time people have debated whether the
> > > Europa League or the Europa Confrence League is better.
> >
> > More to the point - has the Conference League achieved what it set
> > out to? Perhaps judgement shouldn't be made after only one season
> > but the last 8 seems to have a lot of Europa League level sides and
> > not the "third tier" European sides I thought the tournament was
> > supposed to be giving a chance to?
>
> What the Hell is the Europa Conference League?
> Seriously though, I've got no idea!

It's taken you the whole season to ask about a competition that's been
sunning since July/August?

Pay attention at the back! ;-)

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 11:37:50 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:08:45 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > Since the beginning of time people have debated whether the Europa League or the Europa Confrence League is better.
>
> More to the point - has the Conference League achieved what it set out to? Perhaps judgement shouldn't be made after only one season but the last 8 seems to have a lot of Europa League level sides and not the
> "third tier" European sides I thought the tournament was supposed to be giving a chance to?

Personally, I'd say so. The last time one of the eight remaining teams in the competition has won a UEFA title
was Feyenoord in the 2001/02 UEFA Cup, and they haven't reached a European quarterfinal since. It's exactly that
kind of team, usually eliminated in the CL round of 16 or the EL semifinals at the latest (sole exception Marseille),
that the competition was designed for. Overall, the matches have been entertaining and competitive, and there's
nothing not to like about seeing Roma develope a serious rivalry with Bodø/Glimt.

Two things holding the competition back - as I've often said before, it should not be held in the same timeslot as the
Europa League, and not using VAR is a travesty. Slavia's 1-1 equaliser yesterday e.g. was an egregious missed offside
that simply shouldn't happen anymore in this day and age.

Ciao,
Werner

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 12:15:21 p.m. UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 11:37:50 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:08:45 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > Since the beginning of time people have debated whether the Europa League or the Europa Confrence League is better.
> >
> > More to the point - has the Conference League achieved what it set out to? Perhaps judgement shouldn't be made after only one season but the last 8 seems to have a lot of Europa League level sides and not the
> > "third tier" European sides I thought the tournament was supposed to be giving a chance to?
> Personally, I'd say so. The last time one of the eight remaining teams in the competition has won a UEFA title
> was Feyenoord in the 2001/02 UEFA Cup, and they haven't reached a European quarterfinal since. It's exactly that
> kind of team, usually eliminated in the CL round of 16 or the EL semifinals at the latest (sole exception Marseille),
> that the competition was designed for. Overall, the matches have been entertaining and competitive, and there's
> nothing not to like about seeing Roma develope a serious rivalry with Bodø/Glimt.
>
> Two things holding the competition back - as I've often said before, it should not be held in the same timeslot as the
> Europa League, and not using VAR is a travesty. Slavia's 1-1 equaliser yesterday e.g. was an egregious missed offside
> that simply shouldn't happen anymore in this day and age.

Wait, whaaat? No VARobots in the Europa Conference liga, no need for any more testing, we have a winner.

>
>
> Ciao,
> Werner

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 5:15:21 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 11:37:50 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:08:45 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > Since the beginning of time people have debated whether the Europa League or the Europa Confrence League is better.
> >
> > More to the point - has the Conference League achieved what it set out to? Perhaps judgement shouldn't be made after only one season but the last 8 seems to have a lot of Europa League level sides and not the
> > "third tier" European sides I thought the tournament was supposed to be giving a chance to?
> Personally, I'd say so. The last time one of the eight remaining teams in the competition has won a UEFA title
> was Feyenoord in the 2001/02 UEFA Cup, and they haven't reached a European quarterfinal since. It's exactly that
> kind of team, usually eliminated in the CL round of 16 or the EL semifinals at the latest (sole exception Marseille),
> that the competition was designed for.

I've looked back at some articles from when the competition was first mooted and I'm not sure the competition was originally designed for teams like Feyenoord. The early talk was of a competition possibly exclusively for lower ranked nations to give their teams a chance of a run in Europe. It seems at some stage the idea changed to accommodate teams from the higher ranked nations and teams who've dropped out of the Europa League, which is why we have a last eight with 5 teams from top 10 UEFA club coefficient nations, with the other three coming from top 20 ranking nations.

If the competition had been kept as a genuine third tier tournament restricted to nations ranked (say) below 20, we may have had the opportunity to see teams from countries like Sweden, Israel, Hungary, Bosnia or Finland have a run to the later stages of a European competition. If the first season is anything to go by it feels like it just gives teams from higher ranked nations who've under performed either the previous season or in the current season's Europa League a way of ensuring they're still on our tv screens on a Thursday night.

RM

On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 12:03:32 AM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 5:15:21 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 11:37:50 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:08:45 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > Since the beginning of time people have debated whether the Europa League or the Europa Confrence League is better.
> > >
> > > More to the point - has the Conference League achieved what it set out to? Perhaps judgement shouldn't be made after only one season but the last 8 seems to have a lot of Europa League level sides and not the
> > > "third tier" European sides I thought the tournament was supposed to be giving a chance to?
> > Personally, I'd say so. The last time one of the eight remaining teams in the competition has won a UEFA title
> > was Feyenoord in the 2001/02 UEFA Cup, and they haven't reached a European quarterfinal since. It's exactly that
> > kind of team, usually eliminated in the CL round of 16 or the EL semifinals at the latest (sole exception Marseille),
> > that the competition was designed for.
>
> I've looked back at some articles from when the competition was first mooted and I'm not sure the competition was originally designed for teams like Feyenoord. The early talk was of a competition possibly
> exclusively for lower ranked nations to give their teams a chance of a run in Europe. It seems at some stage the idea changed to accommodate teams from the higher ranked nations and teams who've dropped out
> of the Europa League, which is why we have a last eight with 5 teams from top 10 UEFA club coefficient nations, with the other three coming from top 20 ranking nations.

It was designed to give the champions of these lower-ranked leagues a much bigger chance to reach a European group phase,
which it did - the champions of Gibraltar, Armenia and Estonia all featured for the first time in their association's history.
But except for those teams, I find the Conference League to be pretty close to the old Europa League strength-wise.

As was to be expected - with the Conference League the number of teams in a European group phase has increased from 80 to 96,
but those extra 16 teams come predominantly from among the champions of countries ranked above #20 (this year these were:
CRO, SWE, NOR, ISR, KAZ, BUL, ROM, POL, SLK, SLO, HUN, ARM, MDA, FIN, GIB, EST). (I say predominantly, because some of those
champions, like Dinamo Zagreb, might have made it to the group phase in previous years as well. But now these 16 spots are guaranteed.)

> If the competition had been kept as a genuine third tier tournament restricted to nations ranked (say) below 20, we may have had the opportunity to see teams from countries like Sweden

Norway not good enough for you? Last time a Norwegian team reached a quarterfinal was Vålerenga in the 1998-99
(last ever) Cup Winners' Cup (although Rosenborg's Champions League quarterfinal two years previously was more impressive),
and so far they've never managed to reach a semifinal. It's a historic chance for Bodø/Glimt - and one that would be seriously
diminished if the competition were as restricted as you suggested.
(Also, back then Vålerenga only had to win two rounds against the cup winners from Romania and Turkey to get to the QF.
Bodø/Glimt's achievement is far better.)

> Israel, Hungary, Bosnia or Finland

A team from Bosnia has so far never reached a European group phase, even under the current easy setup. Don't expect them to
fly high even if you cut out everyone above 20th place.

Generally, if you only want to see those teams between #20 and #55 slugging it out between themselves, may I suggest the early
qualifying rounds each summer where that's exactly what's happening? It's definitely my favourite part of the football season, but
even I wouldn't want to see the usual level of play there rewarded with a European trophy.

> have a run to the later stages of a European competition. If the first season is anything to go by it feels like it just gives teams from higher ranked nations who've under performed either the previous season or in the
> current season's Europa League

That might be applied, at most, to Leicester, PSV and Marseille, and two of those have been drawn against each other. Not so bad.

Ciao,
Werner

> a way of ensuring they're still on our tv screens on a Thursday night.
>
>
> RM

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 11:50:07 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

> Norway not good enough for you?

Norway would be plenty good enough for me if the other quarter finalists were from similarly ranked nations such as Israel, Sweden, Bulgaria etc. If this season is anything to go by it just feels that Bodo Glimt's inclusion, and also that of Slavia Prague and PAOK, is akin to tokenism in that it allows UEFA to claim that the tournament is for those clubs and nations previously under represented in the Champions and Europa League, whilst ignoring that the majority of the quarter finalists come from top 10 ranked nations. Marseille and Roma have enough recent Champions League and Europa League experience (with the all the revenue that brings) so as not to have required the safety net of the Conference League and even Leicester, whilst not having much of a history of European club football, have three recent Champions League or Europa League group stages under their belts, not to mention they have the massive competitive advantage of Premier League tv money. To my mind these are not the level of club that the Conference League was originally targeted at.

The working title of the Conference League was "Europa League 2" and it kind of tells - so far it just feels like an excuse to give Europa League level teams who haven't done the business on the pitch a second chance at the expense of third tier teams who could really benefit with the experience and revenue from a European cup run.

>
> Generally, if you only want to see those teams between #20 and #55 slugging it out between themselves, may I suggest the early
> qualifying rounds each summer where that's exactly what's happening?

Well quite, but those qualifying rounds are exactly that - qualifying rounds - what is needed is a full tournament where such teams can compete on an equal footing with one another. There is a place and a need for such tournaments, hence why the English Football League Trophy (open to third and fourth tier teams) has been running for so long.

RM

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 5:35:13 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> So if we take this study to the next level and include all games today, we have

We will take this highly tactical study to the next level and tactically determine whether the UCL rejects are better than the Europa rejects. It is all about the tactics. Do the scribblers still go on about tactics?

Europa League three 1-1 draws and a measly 1-0 win for a total of 6 points and 7 goals. vs a 3-3 and 0-0 draw and two 2-1 wins for a total of 8 points and 12 goals for the Conference.

>
Europa League three 1-1 draws and a measly 1-0 win for a total of 6 points and 7 goals. vs a 3-3 and 0-0 draw and two 2-1 wins for a total of 8 points and 12 goals for the Conference.

>
> 07.04.22 19:45 FT RB Leipzig 1 - 1 Atalanta (0 - 1)
> 07.04.22 22:00 FT Eintracht Frankfurt 1 - 1 Barcelona (0 - 0)
> It is already April 7 today! Wow, where did March go? Eintracht with a huge shock result, possibly the biggest shock in the history of football , what is even mote shocking, they were unlucky not to win.
>
> 07.04.22 22:00 FT * SC Braga 1 - 0 Rangers (1 - 0)
> 07.04.22 22:00 FT West Ham 1 - 1 Lyon (0 - 0)
>
> vs a 3-3 and 0-0 draw and two 2-1 wins for a total of 8 points and 12 goals for the Conference.
> The science doesnt lie. If we want to be truly all scientific, we would incorporate the next legs results and the amount of games going to ET and PKs, that would conclusively tell us the better liga
>
> 07.04.22 19:45 FT Feyenoord 3 - 3 Slavia Praha (1 - 1)
> 07.04.22 22:00 FT * Bodo/Glimt 2 - 1 AS Roma (0 - 1)
> 07.04.22 22:00 FT Leicester 0 - 0 PSV Eindhoven (0 - 0)
> 07.04.22 22:00 FT * Marseille 2 - 1 PAOK
> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 4:51:22 p.m. UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> > On 2022-04-07, Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bodų / Glimt 0 - 1 Roma
> >
> > Bodų already thrashed Roma this season, so why are they playing again?

Europa
Bergamo 0 - 1Leipzig HT
Open match, could go either way.

Conference
PSV 1 - 0 Lester HT

Away goal advantage for Europa so far, but Conference has a big advantage from lst week

Was just watching the weather in Winnipeg, not sure if Micheal is getting the same in Alberta, but the middle of the Iceberg is getting a snowstorm. Not here though. We are getting some rain, but it is relatively mild. You have to remember the iceberg is huge

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 1:42:25 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> Europa
> Bergamo 0 - 1Leipzig HT
> Open match, could go either way.
Red Bull leading 2-0 with 5 minutes left. I can only assume this ref is a Dutchman. First he gives a hand ball call for a guy in the wall with his elbow covering his face, none of the Atalanta players were even asking, then on the next free kick, another ball is blasted at a players arm and he doesnt give a handball, but now all the Atalanta players are crying handball, so he goes to the VARobots for 5 minutes, but rightly does not give it, but still he took a long time, just like a Dutchman. Gave Red Bull a PK at the end for a light foul.

>
> Conference
> PSV 1 - 0 Lester HT
>
> Away goal advantage for Europa so far, but Conference has a big advantage from lst week
Confrence wins again
PSV 1 - 2 Lester
>
> Was just watching the weather in Winnipeg, not sure if Micheal is getting the same in Alberta, but the middle of the Iceberg is getting a snowstorm. Not here though. We are getting some rain, but it is relatively mild. You have to remember the iceberg is huge

Obviously not a Dutchman reffing this game, proper penalty call after 2 minutes
Barca 0 - 1 Frankfurt

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 2:39:11 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 1:42:25 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > Europa
> > Bergamo 0 - 1Leipzig HT
> > Open match, could go either way.
> Red Bull leading 2-0 with 5 minutes left. I can only assume this ref is a Dutchman. First he gives a hand ball call for a guy in the wall with his elbow covering his face, none of the Atalanta players were even asking, then on the next free kick, another ball is blasted at a players arm and he doesnt give a handball, but now all the Atalanta players are crying handball, so he goes to the VARobots for 5 minutes, but rightly does not give it, but still he took a long time, just like a Dutchman. Gave Red Bull a PK at the end for a light foul.
> >
> > Conference
> > PSV 1 - 0 Lester HT
> >
> > Away goal advantage for Europa so far, but Conference has a big advantage from lst week
> Confrence wins again
> PSV 1 - 2 Lester
> >
> > Was just watching the weather in Winnipeg, not sure if Micheal is getting the same in Alberta, but the middle of the Iceberg is getting a snowstorm. Not here though. We are getting some rain, but it is relatively mild. You have to remember the iceberg is huge

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:05:50 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> Obviously not a Dutchman reffing this game, proper penalty call after 2 minutes
> Barca 0 - 1 Frankfurt

Great strike for the second goal by Borre, should be an "out of the box" 2 pointer (Mr. Lily White and I have discussed how it would make the game better to change the scoring if you awarded 2 points for an out of Box shot.). Frankfurt might just be able to hang on and pull of the biggest upset in the history of football.

In the big picture Conference 9 - 8 Europa ht

> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 2:39:11 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 1:42:25 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > Europa
> > > Bergamo 0 - 1Leipzig HT
> > > Open match, could go either way.
> > Red Bull leading 2-0 with 5 minutes left. I can only assume this ref is a Dutchman. First he gives a hand ball call for a guy in the wall with his elbow covering his face, none of the Atalanta players were even asking, then on the next free kick, another ball is blasted at a players arm and he doesnt give a handball, but now all the Atalanta players are crying handball, so he goes to the VARobots for 5 minutes, but rightly does not give it, but still he took a long time, just like a Dutchman. Gave Red Bull a PK at the end for a light foul.
> > >
> > > Conference
> > > PSV 1 - 0 Lester HT
> > >
> > > Away goal advantage for Europa so far, but Conference has a big advantage from lst week
> > Confrence wins again
> > PSV 1 - 2 Lester
> > >
> > > Was just watching the weather in Winnipeg, not sure if Micheal is getting the same in Alberta, but the middle of the Iceberg is getting a snowstorm. Not here though. We are getting some rain, but it is relatively mild. You have to remember the iceberg is huge

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 9:05:50 PM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
> Obviously not a Dutchman reffing this game, proper penalty call after 2 minutes
> Barca 0 - 1 Frankfurt

Don't know where they placed the mics, but it sounds like a Frankfurt home game.
Excellent first half by Eintracht. At first I thought Ter Stegen looked suspect agains Borré's
shot, but that was a perfectly placed rocket.

Ciao,
Werner

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:56:34 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 9:05:50 PM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > Obviously not a Dutchman reffing this game, proper penalty call after 2 minutes
> > Barca 0 - 1 Frankfurt
> Don't know where they placed the mics, but it sounds like a Frankfurt home game.
> Excellent first half by Eintracht. At first I thought Ter Stegen looked suspect agains Borré's
> shot, but that was a perfectly placed rocket.
>
>
> Ciao,
> Werner

Not a lot of drama in any of the ties. Only Slavia-Feyenoord hangs in the balance. I guess Barca still with a chance to come back just because they are Barca...

VARobots have revolted, the Robots refuse to communicate with the humans.

If they give this as a handball, then everyone is a dutchman.

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 4:16:50 p.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:56:34 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 9:05:50 PM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > Obviously not a Dutchman reffing this game, proper penalty call after 2 minutes
> > > Barca 0 - 1 Frankfurt
> > Don't know where they placed the mics, but it sounds like a Frankfurt home game.
> > Excellent first half by Eintracht. At first I thought Ter Stegen looked suspect agains Borré's
> > shot, but that was a perfectly placed rocket.
> >
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Werner
> Not a lot of drama in any of the ties. Only Slavia-Feyenoord hangs in the balance. I guess Barca still with a chance to come back just because they are Barca...

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 10:18:05 PM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
> VARobots have revolted, the Robots refuse to communicate with the humans.
>
> If they give this as a handball, then everyone is a dutchman.

Have you now made your peace with the bots?

0-3 Kostić. This tie is not close, but fun.

Ciao,
Werner

OMG!!!!! This is the biggest upset in the history of football!

Barca 0 - 3 Eintracht 70 min

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 4:18:05 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> VARobots have revolted, the Robots refuse to communicate with the humans.
>
> If they give this as a handball, then everyone is a dutchman.
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 4:16:50 p.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:56:34 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 9:05:50 PM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > Obviously not a Dutchman reffing this game, proper penalty call after 2 minutes
> > > > Barca 0 - 1 Frankfurt
> > > Don't know where they placed the mics, but it sounds like a Frankfurt home game.
> > > Excellent first half by Eintracht. At first I thought Ter Stegen looked suspect agains Borré's
> > > shot, but that was a perfectly placed rocket.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > Werner
> > Not a lot of drama in any of the ties. Only Slavia-Feyenoord hangs in the balance. I guess Barca still with a chance to come back just because they are Barca...

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 4:25:23 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > Not a lot of drama in any of the ties. Only Slavia-Feyenoord hangs in the balance. I guess Barca still with a chance to come back just because they are Barca...

Feyenoord score two which should be enough to put the tie away. And just when we thought there would be no drama, 10-men Braga score and tie it up on aggregate.

In article <6310cae1-ccaf-46a7-a95a-079e9afa35f0n@googlegroups.com>,
Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 4:25:23 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
>> > > Not a lot of drama in any of the ties. Only Slavia-Feyenoord hangs
>in the balance. I guess Barca still with a chance to come back just
>because they are Barca...
>
>Feyenoord score two which should be enough to put the tie away. And just
>when we thought there would be no drama, 10-men Braga score and tie it
>up on aggregate.
>
>

SFs are interesting!
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On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 9:56:34 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 9:05:50 PM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > Obviously not a Dutchman reffing this game, proper penalty call after 2 minutes
> > Barca 0 - 1 Frankfurt
>
> Don't know where they placed the mics, but it sounds like a Frankfurt home game.

After the match:
https://twitter.com/RafaelEscrig/status/1514710774517837824

Estimation is about 25,000 Eintracht fans in the stadium. I guess there will be some serious
discussion about what Barça members actually do with their allotted tickets.

Ciao,
Werner

On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 5:17:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
> The working title of the Conference League was "Europa League 2" and it kind of tells - so far it just feels like an excuse to give Europa League level teams who haven't done the business on the pitch a second chance at the expense of third tier teams who could really benefit with the experience and revenue from a European cup run.

Of the Conference League quarter finals where clubs from top 10 ranked nations played teams from nations outside the top 10:

Roma 4 - Bodo Glimt 0 (Roma win 5-2 on aggregate)

Slavia Prague 1 - Feyenoord 3 (Feyenoord win 6-4 on aggregate)

PAOK 0 - Marseille 1 (Marseille win 3-1 on aggregate)

So with Leicester that's all four semi finalists from top 10 ranked nations.. I have to say the final four would look good candidates for the Europa League in any other season.

For a competition that was supposed to increase diversity in participation and give those teams usually eliminated before they get to a group stage a real chance, this semi final line up is surely an abject failure. Of course, the fact that UEFA allowed teams from top 10 ranked nations and Europa League dropouts into the Conference League shows us there was another agenda at play.

RM