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 by: Al Kamista - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 20:01 UTC

On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:49:06 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:32:28 p.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > April 13th matches:
> >
> > Man City at full strength, pretty much. Gundogan playing, B. Silva
> > pushed further forward, according to the team sheet. Atletico as expected.
> I think Villarreal showed yesterday they are better at playing "tactical" football then Atletico now. Hope this goes to 1-1 agg and 50 cards flying.

Why would you wish Atletico's continued survival upon the football world. I though you were a proponent of football, not destruction.

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 by: Al Kamista - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 20:04 UTC

On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:32:28 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> April 13th matches:
>
> Man City at full strength, pretty much. Gundogan playing, B. Silva
> pushed further forward, according to the team sheet. Atletico as expected..
>
>
> Liverpool have rested Salah, Mané, Fabinho, Thiago, Van Dijk, Robertson,
> and Alexander Arnold (all on the bench, though). Presumably this is to
> save them all for the FA cup semifinal vs. City. Klopp might finally be
> taking the FA cup seriously - perhaps the league cup win has changed his
> perspective.

I am guessing that it's less to do with the league cup victory and more to do with bringing a 3-1 advantage home against Benfica.

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On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:02:00 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:49:06 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:32:28 p.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > > April 13th matches:
> > >
> > > Man City at full strength, pretty much. Gundogan playing, B. Silva
> > > pushed further forward, according to the team sheet. Atletico as expected.
> > I think Villarreal showed yesterday they are better at playing "tactical" football then Atletico now. Hope this goes to 1-1 agg and 50 cards flying.
> Why would you wish Atletico's continued survival upon the football world. I though you were a proponent of football, not destruction.

Schadenfreude. I dont know why, maybe just the richness of the club, but I somehow take joy in Man City continuously failing in the UCL.

At the moment Atletico actually pressing forward and coming close to that goal they need. Old man Suarez coming on for the last 15 mins

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 by: Binder Dundat - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 20:53 UTC

On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:40:34 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:02:00 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:49:06 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:32:28 p.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > > > April 13th matches:
> > > >
> > > > Man City at full strength, pretty much. Gundogan playing, B. Silva
> > > > pushed further forward, according to the team sheet. Atletico as expected.
> > > I think Villarreal showed yesterday they are better at playing "tactical" football then Atletico now. Hope this goes to 1-1 agg and 50 cards flying.
> > Why would you wish Atletico's continued survival upon the football world. I though you were a proponent of football, not destruction.
> Schadenfreude. I dont know why, maybe just the richness of the club, but I somehow take joy in Man City continuously failing in the UCL.
>
> At the moment Atletico actually pressing forward and coming close to that goal they need. Old man Suarez coming on for the last 15 mins

Simeone football now, benches cleared, hair pulling, kicking, biting etc. In the end only one Red card for Felipe.

Atletico coming close to getting one, but still 0-0 and cards flyin

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 by: Binder Dundat - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 21:09 UTC

On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:53:14 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:40:34 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:02:00 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:49:06 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:32:28 p.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > > > > April 13th matches:
> > > > >
> > > > > Man City at full strength, pretty much. Gundogan playing, B. Silva
> > > > > pushed further forward, according to the team sheet. Atletico as expected.
> > > > I think Villarreal showed yesterday they are better at playing "tactical" football then Atletico now. Hope this goes to 1-1 agg and 50 cards flying.
> > > Why would you wish Atletico's continued survival upon the football world. I though you were a proponent of football, not destruction.
> > Schadenfreude. I dont know why, maybe just the richness of the club, but I somehow take joy in Man City continuously failing in the UCL.
> >
> > At the moment Atletico actually pressing forward and coming close to that goal they need. Old man Suarez coming on for the last 15 mins
> Simeone football now, benches cleared, hair pulling, kicking, biting etc. In the end only one Red card for Felipe.
>
> Atletico coming close to getting one, but still 0-0 and cards flyin

Ends 0-0 without any further maiming, injuries or arrests.
DeBruyne did come off injured earlier, not sure if it was serious.

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 by: Werner Pichler - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 08:13 UTC

On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 11:43:40 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 5:38:26 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> >
> > Those were two entertaining matches, it has to be said. The big old Money League still delivers.
>
> Yep.

....and then came Atlético...

Ciao,
Werner

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 13:25 UTC

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 4:13:25 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

> ...and then came Atlético...

Atletico love to play the villains, and they do it wonderfully. Their presence makes the whole thing more fun. Not that ManCity were paragons of virtue yesterday, mind you...

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 by: Binder Dundat - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 14:51 UTC

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 9:25:20 a.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 4:13:25 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
>
> > ...and then came Atlético...
>
> Atletico love to play the villains, and they do it wonderfully. Their presence makes the whole thing more fun. Not that ManCity were paragons of virtue yesterday, mind you...
I dont like this Man City team, something wierd about them and I dont mean the fake 9 thing.

I think Liverpool has this cup or Villarreal play the Villarrns in the script, which might happen, but no, they cant stop Liverpool's attack, they have too many ways to score.

It is not a party until the Cops get called-which apparently they were for a tunnel party.

Atleti could have actually won it if they had decided to attack in the first half.

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 by: Al Kamista - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:48 UTC

On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:40:34 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:02:00 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:49:06 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:32:28 p.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > > > April 13th matches:
> > > >
> > > > Man City at full strength, pretty much. Gundogan playing, B. Silva
> > > > pushed further forward, according to the team sheet. Atletico as expected.
> > > I think Villarreal showed yesterday they are better at playing "tactical" football then Atletico now. Hope this goes to 1-1 agg and 50 cards flying.
> > Why would you wish Atletico's continued survival upon the football world. I though you were a proponent of football, not destruction.
> Schadenfreude. I dont know why, maybe just the richness of the club, but I somehow take joy in Man City continuously failing in the UCL.

Man City is dislikable for many reasons, but what I respect them (or more specifically, Pep) for is that they are a scintillating football machine which is delightful to watch from an aesthetic standpoint. Also, despite their enormous financial outlay, they don't necessarily go for the shiniest objects, but more players suited to their system.

Atletico is the polar opposite, hell bent on doing anything and everything unsavory to gain an advantage. Yes, it brings a different kind of theatric entertainment with it, but it is still based on destruction rather than creation. Not to mention again, all that with a squad valued at over half a billion.

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 by: Bruce Scott - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 15:33 UTC

On 2022-04-12, Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:
> [counter]
> And that is exactly what happened
> 1-1 and I cant see Bayern coming back.

Yes, we just don't have the mental strength for this type of match
under Nagelsmann... I was worried we'd go out like this even before
the first leg of the tie.

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