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for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds

ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00

FC Liverpool vs FC Villarreal 1.26 5.75 11.50

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On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
>
> ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00

New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.

>
> FC Liverpool vs FC Villarreal 1.26 5.75 11.50

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On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
> >
> > ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
> New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
> Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.

If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.

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On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
> > >
> > > ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
> > New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
> > Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.

It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.

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 by: MH - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:27 UTC

On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
>>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
>>>>
>>>> ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
>>> New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
>>> Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
>> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
>
>
> It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.

Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.

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On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
> >>>>
> >>>> ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
> >>> New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
> >>> Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
> >> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
> >
> >
> > It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
> Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
> the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
> but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.

4-3 City final.

City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch. Anyone's tie in the second leg.

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 by: Binder Dundat - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:18 UTC

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:58:00 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > >>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > >>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
> > >>> New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
> > >>> Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
> > >> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
> > >
> > >
> > > It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
> > Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
> > the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
> > but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
> 4-3 City final.
>
> City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch. Anyone's tie in the second leg.

A cheap handball pk gives the old timers hope. Carvahal was too hesitant and directly responsible for 3 goals.

I am not just saying this cus I dont like Man City, but they really dont impress me. The passing and interplay is not as good as everyone will tell you, they do not have enough good skill players to play the way Pep's Barca or even Bayern did. Having said that, they will probably have enough to be at the oldtimers over 2 legs.

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 by: MH - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:23 UTC

On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
>> On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
>>>>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
>>>>> New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
>>>>> Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
>>>> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
>>>
>>>
>>> It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
>> Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
>> the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
>> but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
>
> 4-3 City final.
>
> City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.

??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
incredibly dull. I don't think I have ever seen a game with this many
goals in it that engaged me less. Now you might say that this is
because I don't really care who wins, but that is not really true,
because I think this mediocre Real Madrid team does not deserve another
Champions' league title, and have been hoping someone, even PSG, would
dispose of them. On the other hand, much as I am against most of what
Man City and their owners represent, I think they usually play very
interesting football, and would not begrudge Guardiola a CL title with
them.

Anyone's tie in the second leg.

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 by: Binder Dundat - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:32 UTC

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:36 p.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:
> On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> >> On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >>>>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
> >>>>> New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
> >>>>> Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
> >>>> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
> >> Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
> >> the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
> >> but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
> >
> > 4-3 City final.
> >
> > City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.
> ??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
> incredibly dull.

It is not just you, for a "seven goal thriller" it was not only slow and dull, but not really high quality play from either team.

I don't think I have ever seen a game with this many
> goals in it that engaged me less. Now you might say that this is
> because I don't really care who wins, but that is not really true,
> because I think this mediocre Real Madrid team does not deserve another
> Champions' league title, and have been hoping someone, even PSG, would
> dispose of them. On the other hand, much as I am against most of what
> Man City and their owners represent, I think they usually play very
> interesting football, and would not begrudge Guardiola a CL title with
> them.
> Anyone's tie in the second leg.

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 by: Al Kamista - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:54 UTC

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:36 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> >> On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >>>>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
> >>>>> New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
> >>>>> Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
> >>>> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
> >> Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
> >> the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
> >> but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
> >
> > 4-3 City final.
> >
> > City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.
> ??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
> incredibly dull. I don't think I have ever seen a game with this many
> goals in it that engaged me less.

Then you must be a hard man to please! It's not like the goals were low quality types - e.g. deflections, own goals, or corners. Almost all were technically well executed finishes, despite the defensive mistakes that led to them.

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On 2022-04-27 08:54, Al Kamista wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:36 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
>> On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
>>>> On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
>>>>>>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
>>>>>>> New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
>>>>>>> Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
>>>>>> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
>>>> Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
>>>> the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
>>>> but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
>>>
>>> 4-3 City final.
>>>
>>> City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.
>> ??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
>> incredibly dull. I don't think I have ever seen a game with this many
>> goals in it that engaged me less.
>
> Then you must be a hard man to please! It's not like the goals were low quality types - e.g. deflections, own goals, or corners. Almost all were technically well executed finishes, despite the defensive mistakes that led to them.

Again, it could just be my state of mind, but it seemed to me the game
lacked any sense of urgency. City could have picked up the pace after
the second goal and put this thing out of reach, but they didn't. Real
seemed happy to stay within one goal when they could. Maybe they think
the away goals rule still applies. Don't get why Grealish did not get a
run out. He is good for winning fouls if nothing else, and with Real's
back 4 looking fragile, might have got something going.

Without Cancelo and Walker, and with Dias have missed a few matches and
not back to normal yet, City do look vulnerable.

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 by: Binder Dundat - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:01 UTC

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 11:49:31 a.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:
> On 2022-04-27 08:54, Al Kamista wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:36 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> >> On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >>>>>>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
> >>>>>>> New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
> >>>>>>> Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
> >>>>>> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
> >>>> Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
> >>>> the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
> >>>> but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
> >>>
> >>> 4-3 City final.
> >>>
> >>> City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.
> >> ??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
> >> incredibly dull. I don't think I have ever seen a game with this many
> >> goals in it that engaged me less.
> >
> > Then you must be a hard man to please! It's not like the goals were low quality types - e.g. deflections, own goals, or corners. Almost all were technically well executed finishes, despite the defensive mistakes that led to them.
> Again, it could just be my state of mind, but it seemed to me the game
> lacked any sense of urgency. City could have picked up the pace after
> the second goal and put this thing out of reach, but they didn't. Real
> seemed happy to stay within one goal when they could. Maybe they think
> the away goals rule still applies. Don't get why Grealish did not get a
> run out. He is good for winning fouls if nothing else, and with Real's
> back 4 looking fragile, might have got something going.
>
> Without Cancelo and Walker, and with Dias have missed a few matches and
> not back to normal yet, City do look vulnerable.

One assumes it will be different today, with Villarreal playing ultra defensively and trying to keep this 0-0. Liverpool have too many ways to score, so I doubt they can do it. Also probably a bit more intensity than yesterday, just cus that is they way Liverpool play.

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 by: Binder Dundat - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 20:00 UTC

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:01:52 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 11:49:31 a.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > On 2022-04-27 08:54, Al Kamista wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:36 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > >> On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
> > >>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > >>>> On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > >>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail..com wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
> > >>>>>>> New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
> > >>>>>>> Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
> > >>>>>> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
> > >>>> Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
> > >>>> the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
> > >>>> but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
> > >>>
> > >>> 4-3 City final.
> > >>>
> > >>> City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.
> > >> ??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
> > >> incredibly dull. I don't think I have ever seen a game with this many
> > >> goals in it that engaged me less.
> > >
> > > Then you must be a hard man to please! It's not like the goals were low quality types - e.g. deflections, own goals, or corners. Almost all were technically well executed finishes, despite the defensive mistakes that led to them.
> > Again, it could just be my state of mind, but it seemed to me the game
> > lacked any sense of urgency. City could have picked up the pace after
> > the second goal and put this thing out of reach, but they didn't. Real
> > seemed happy to stay within one goal when they could. Maybe they think
> > the away goals rule still applies. Don't get why Grealish did not get a
> > run out. He is good for winning fouls if nothing else, and with Real's
> > back 4 looking fragile, might have got something going.
> >
> > Without Cancelo and Walker, and with Dias have missed a few matches and
> > not back to normal yet, City do look vulnerable.
> One assumes it will be different today, with Villarreal playing ultra defensively and trying to keep this 0-0. Liverpool have too many ways to score, so I doubt they can do it. Also probably a bit more intensity than yesterday, just cus that is they way Liverpool play.

If you are a Yellow submarine fan, so far it is going to plan.
Liverpool should score at some point, but I think that is how it went for Bayern and Juve in the past rounds.

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 by: Binder Dundat - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:56 UTC

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 4:00:58 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:01:52 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 11:49:31 a.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > > On 2022-04-27 08:54, Al Kamista wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:36 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > > >> On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
> > > >>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > > >>>> On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
> > > >>>>>>> New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
> > > >>>>>>> Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
> > > >>>>>> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
> > > >>>> Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
> > > >>>> the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
> > > >>>> but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 4-3 City final.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.
> > > >> ??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
> > > >> incredibly dull. I don't think I have ever seen a game with this many
> > > >> goals in it that engaged me less.
> > > >
> > > > Then you must be a hard man to please! It's not like the goals were low quality types - e.g. deflections, own goals, or corners. Almost all were technically well executed finishes, despite the defensive mistakes that led to them.
> > > Again, it could just be my state of mind, but it seemed to me the game
> > > lacked any sense of urgency. City could have picked up the pace after
> > > the second goal and put this thing out of reach, but they didn't. Real
> > > seemed happy to stay within one goal when they could. Maybe they think
> > > the away goals rule still applies. Don't get why Grealish did not get a
> > > run out. He is good for winning fouls if nothing else, and with Real's
> > > back 4 looking fragile, might have got something going.
> > >
> > > Without Cancelo and Walker, and with Dias have missed a few matches and
> > > not back to normal yet, City do look vulnerable.
> > One assumes it will be different today, with Villarreal playing ultra defensively and trying to keep this 0-0. Liverpool have too many ways to score, so I doubt they can do it. Also probably a bit more intensity than yesterday, just cus that is they way Liverpool play.
> If you are a Yellow submarine fan, so far it is going to plan.
> Liverpool should score at some point, but I think that is how it went for Bayern and Juve in the past rounds.

It ended 2-0 and Liverpool are through to the final.

In other football news, Pigman (the agent) just died, so who will be getting all that money from the Haaland transfer to Man City?

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This tie is done according to the math equation I saw, but I will let you math nerds verify.

If team X has never scored more than 2 goals in a match and team Y has never scored less than 1 goal in a match, can team X come back in the second match of a two round tie if team Y won the first match 2-0?

There is an interesting match in the WWEpl 2nd div ( I think it is actually called the WCW?) on now between Borneo and Nottingham Forest. If Forest win they will be in the drivers seat for a return to the 1st div ( they just hit the post,0-0). This would be the first time Forest have been in the 1st division since Trevor Francis left.

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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:11:56 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> This tie is done according to the math equation I saw, but I will let you math nerds verify.
>
> If team X has never scored more than 2 goals in a match and team Y has never scored less than 1 goal in a match, can team X come back in the second match of a two round tie if team Y won the first match 2-0?
>
> There is an interesting match in the WWEpl 2nd div ( I think it is actually called the WCW?) on now between Borneo and Nottingham Forest. If Forest win they will be in the drivers seat for a return to the 1st div ( they just hit the post,0-0). This would be the first time Forest have been in the 1st division since Trevor Francis left.

The old timers here will remember a Real Madrid fan on RSS called Raulinho7, who used to troll Barca by saying that they had won fewer European Cups than Nottingham Forest. Remarkably, that was true until 2006. It would be nice to see Forest back in the top flight. Isn't Nottingham one of the largest cities in Europe without domestic top flight representation?

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0-0 ht. Forest need to win for a chance at direct promotion, I think they will be in the play off regardless of the score today.
I guess they dont have the VARobots in the 2nd div. Forest denied a good chance and penalty due to a really bad offside call, he looked onside by a metre. Forest look the better side from what I have seen, though that could be due to their kit, which is this bright, neon yellow and orange that looks just like the safety vests worn by highway construction workers.

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:32:40 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:11:56 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > This tie is done according to the math equation I saw, but I will let you math nerds verify.
> >
> > If team X has never scored more than 2 goals in a match and team Y has never scored less than 1 goal in a match, can team X come back in the second match of a two round tie if team Y won the first match 2-0?
> >
> > There is an interesting match in the WWEpl 2nd div ( I think it is actually called the WCW?) on now between Borneo and Nottingham Forest. If Forest win they will be in the drivers seat for a return to the 1st div ( they just hit the post,0-0). This would be the first time Forest have been in the 1st division since Trevor Francis left.
> The old timers here will remember a Real Madrid fan on RSS called Raulinho7, who used to troll Barca by saying that they had won fewer European Cups than Nottingham Forest. Remarkably, that was true until 2006. It would be nice to see Forest back in the top flight. Isn't Nottingham one of the largest cities in Europe without domestic top flight representation?

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Subject: Re: UCL 22 SEMI FINALS [R]
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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:11:56 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> This tie is done according to the math equation I saw, but I will let you math nerds verify.
>
> If team X has never scored more than 2 goals in a match and team Y has never scored less than 1 goal in a match, can team X come back in the second match of a two round tie if team Y won the first match 2-0?

Better verify this equation.

>
>

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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> Better verify this equation.

And we have a semifinal on our hands...

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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:44:26 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > Better verify this equation.
>
> And we have a semifinal on our hands...

N.I.G.H.T.M.A.R.E.

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On 2022-05-03 12:32, Al Kamista wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:11:56 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
>> This tie is done according to the math equation I saw, but I will let you math nerds verify.
>>
>> If team X has never scored more than 2 goals in a match and team Y has never scored less than 1 goal in a match, can team X come back in the second match of a two round tie if team Y won the first match 2-0?
>>
>> There is an interesting match in the WWEpl 2nd div ( I think it is actually called the WCW?) on now between Borneo and Nottingham Forest. If Forest win they will be in the drivers seat for a return to the 1st div ( they just hit the post,0-0). This would be the first time Forest have been in the 1st division since Trevor Francis left.
>
> The old timers here will remember a Real Madrid fan on RSS called Raulinho7, who used to troll Barca by saying that they had won fewer European Cups than Nottingham Forest. Remarkably, that was true until 2006. It would be nice to see Forest back in the top flight. Isn't Nottingham one of the largest cities in Europe without domestic top flight representation?

Nope. Just in England Sheffield, Bradford and Bristol are all
substantially bigger.
Toulouse is a lot bigger. Likewise Zaragoza, Malaga, Palermo, Hamburg
(sorry Sven !), Dresden, Bremen, Nürnberg, and at this point I stopped
checking.

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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:44:26 p.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > Better verify this equation.
>
> And we have a semifinal on our hands...
A bit surprised by that scoreline, but totally deserved.
At around the same time Villarreal got their second goal, Bournemouth got their first of the match, to assure them of WWEpl status next season. I think the rule is when Norwich go down, Bournemouth have to come up, or maybe it is Fulham have to go up? This was one of those typical 6 pointers, had Forest won they would have been ahead on goal difference, now they are 6 points behind with one match left.

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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:52:41 PM UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:44:26 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > Better verify this equation.
> >
> > And we have a semifinal on our hands...
> N.I.G.H.T.M.A.R.E.

Liverpool woke up in the second half. 2-2, tie over

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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:28:03 p.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:52:41 PM UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:44:26 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > Better verify this equation.
> > >
> > > And we have a semifinal on our hands...
> > N.I.G.H.T.M.A.R.E.
> Liverpool woke up in the second half. 2-2, tie over

Didn't any of you read " Team X never scores more than 2 goals and team Y never scores less than 1"?

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 by: The Doctor - Tue, 3 May 2022 20:53 UTC

In article <f21348c8-7f1e-4b0f-85f9-50c8984be283n@googlegroups.com>,
Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:28:03 p.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:52:41 PM UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:44:26 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
>> > > > Better verify this equation.
>> > >
>> > > And we have a semifinal on our hands...
>> > N.I.G.H.T.M.A.R.E.
>> Liverpool woke up in the second half. 2-2, tie over
>
>Didn't any of you read " Team X never scores more than 2 goals and team
>Y never scores less than 1"?

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