Yes it's true. For the first time two States will play each other in the
Sheffield Shield H & A component of the season. NSW & Vic today begin their
third consecutive Shield game against t'other. Why is this 120 odd years
old tradition being broken you ask? Well to give players from these States
'more chance of Test selection'.

Briefly, here's some other 'Firsts' for the NSW part of the NSV.

1. First player to go on a tour exclusively as a "development player".
Mitchell Starc (WI)

2. First Test 12th man to be allowed to trot off and play Shield. Brett
Lee.

3. First State to be awarded the Shield before the completion of the season
(non-war). NSW.

Nope. No way is there any bias in Australian cricket.

alvey

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On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 11:19:59 PM UTC, alvey wrote:
> Yes it's true. For the first time two States will play each other in the
> Sheffield Shield H & A component of the season. NSW & Vic today begin their
> third consecutive Shield game against t'other. Why is this 120 odd years

are they making up the fixtures ad hoc cos of covid, or is there an
official list somewhere, cos its making it very hard to follow.

AIUI each state usually plays 10 games, which mean they play each
other 2x home and away, which seems simple enough. if these 2
play each 3x, presumably some of the other states will have to
do the same. if so it could become very disjointed and confusing
competition.

mike

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 08:57:29 -0800 (PST), mike wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 11:19:59 PM UTC, alvey wrote:
>> Yes it's true. For the first time two States will play each other in the
>> Sheffield Shield H & A component of the season. NSW & Vic today begin their
>> third consecutive Shield game against t'other. Why is this 120 odd years
>
> are they making up the fixtures ad hoc cos of covid, or is there an
> official list somewhere, cos its making it very hard to follow.
>
> AIUI each state usually plays 10 games, which mean they play each
> other 2x home and away, which seems simple enough. if these 2
> play each 3x, presumably some of the other states will have to
> do the same. if so it could become very disjointed and confusing
> competition.
>

"become"?

Apparently Oz is hosting the next T20 WC in 2022, 'when' exactly I don't
know, or care, but I fear for the Shield. "This season we'll abbreviate the
Shield to 5 games per side. Just for this season. Honest."

alvey
"Test cricket has primacy". CA.

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On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 9:36:23 PM UTC, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 08:57:29 -0800 (PST), mike wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 11:19:59 PM UTC, alvey wrote:
> >> Yes it's true. For the first time two States will play each other in the
> >> Sheffield Shield H & A component of the season. NSW & Vic today begin their
> >> third consecutive Shield game against t'other. Why is this 120 odd years
> >

i just read that none of the test players will be playing, so it wont
help anyone with prep for ashes if thats true. And then I read that
there might have been a positive covid. Rumours rumours..

> > are they making up the fixtures ad hoc cos of covid, or is there an
> > official list somewhere, cos its making it very hard to follow.
> >
> > AIUI each state usually plays 10 games, which mean they play each
> > other 2x home and away, which seems simple enough. if these 2
> > play each 3x, presumably some of the other states will have to
> > do the same. if so it could become very disjointed and confusing
> > competition.
> >
> "become"?
>
> Apparently Oz is hosting the next T20 WC in 2022, 'when' exactly I don't
> know, or care, but I fear for the Shield. "This season we'll abbreviate the
> Shield to 5 games per side. Just for this season. Honest."

it shouldnt affect it much as its planned for october i think. but i didnt
realise that these t20 WC were now annular events.

mike

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:01:28 -0800 (PST), mike wrote:

> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 9:36:23 PM UTC, alvey wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 08:57:29 -0800 (PST), mike wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 11:19:59 PM UTC, alvey wrote:
>>>> Yes it's true. For the first time two States will play each other in the
>>>> Sheffield Shield H & A component of the season. NSW & Vic today begin their
>>>> third consecutive Shield game against t'other. Why is this 120 odd years
>>>
>
> i just read that none of the test players will be playing, so it wont
> help anyone with prep for ashes if thats true.

No, but it will help non-Test players.

> And then I read that
> there might have been a positive covid. Rumours rumours..
>
>>> are they making up the fixtures ad hoc cos of covid, or is there an
>>> official list somewhere, cos its making it very hard to follow.
>>>
>>> AIUI each state usually plays 10 games, which mean they play each
>>> other 2x home and away, which seems simple enough. if these 2
>>> play each 3x, presumably some of the other states will have to
>>> do the same. if so it could become very disjointed and confusing
>>> competition.
>>>
>> "become"?
>>
>> Apparently Oz is hosting the next T20 WC in 2022, 'when' exactly I don't
>> know, or care, but I fear for the Shield. "This season we'll abbreviate the
>> Shield to 5 games per side. Just for this season. Honest."
>
> it shouldnt affect it much as its planned for october i think. but i didnt
> realise that these t20 WC were now annular events.

I don't believe that they are. Iirc, it's some sort of Covid Shuffle
result.

alvey

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On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 09:01:42 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:01:28 -0800 (PST), mike wrote:

>> it shouldnt affect it much as its planned for october i think. but i didnt
>> realise that these t20 WC were now annular events.
>
>I don't believe that they are. Iirc, it's some sort of Covid Shuffle
>result.

They certainly aren't annular events, which are usually known as
eclipses.

But assuming it was supposed to be "annual", they're not. They're
biennial. And we've just finished the 2020 WC, so the next one will be
in 2022.

Cheers,

Mike

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:09:39 +0000, Mike Holmans wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 09:01:42 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:01:28 -0800 (PST), mike wrote:
>
>>> it shouldnt affect it much as its planned for october i think. but i didnt
>>> realise that these t20 WC were now annular events.
>>
>>I don't believe that they are. Iirc, it's some sort of Covid Shuffle
>>result.
>
> They certainly aren't annular events, which are usually known as
> eclipses.
>
> But assuming it was supposed to be "annual", they're not. They're
> biennial. And we've just finished the 2020 WC, so the next one will be
> in 2022.

Hang on. Isn't the 50 over WC quadrennial?

alvey

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On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 09:49:49 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:09:39 +0000, Mike Holmans wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 09:01:42 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:01:28 -0800 (PST), mike wrote:
>>
>>>> it shouldnt affect it much as its planned for october i think. but i didnt
>>>> realise that these t20 WC were now annular events.
>>>
>>>I don't believe that they are. Iirc, it's some sort of Covid Shuffle
>>>result.
>>
>> They certainly aren't annular events, which are usually known as
>> eclipses.
>>
>> But assuming it was supposed to be "annual", they're not. They're
>> biennial. And we've just finished the 2020 WC, so the next one will be
>> in 2022.
>
>Hang on. Isn't the 50 over WC quadrennial?

At the moment.

Cheers,

Mike

On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 11:49:51 PM UTC, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:09:39 +0000, Mike Holmans wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 09:01:42 +1000, alvey <al...@is.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:01:28 -0800 (PST), mike wrote:
> >
> >>> it shouldnt affect it much as its planned for october i think. but i didnt
> >>> realise that these t20 WC were now annular events.
> >>
> >>I don't believe that they are. Iirc, it's some sort of Covid Shuffle
> >>result.
> >
> > They certainly aren't annular events, which are usually known as
> > eclipses.
> >
> > But assuming it was supposed to be "annual", they're not. They're

a spelling bee, how cute.

> > biennial. And we've just finished the 2020 WC, so the next one will be
> > in 2022.
> Hang on. Isn't the 50 over WC quadrennial?
> alvey

now you're just showing off.

mike