Has released a piece on his departure. If those NSW players and hacks who
bought about his downfall possessed a small fraction of his class, dignity
and devotion to Australian cricket then we'd all be in a far better place.

https://tinyurl.com/2p9dz8dn

alvey

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On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 07:18:44 +1000, alvey wrote:

> Has released a piece on his departure. If those NSW players and hacks who
> bought about his downfall possessed a small fraction of his class, dignity
> and devotion to Australian cricket then we'd all be in a far better place.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/2p9dz8dn
>

Adam Gilchrist, Australian cricket's Mr Good Bloke, also tears into CA and
the NSW players & mefia.

https://tinyurl.com/8fbatbmb

alvey
Unable to recall any NSW scumbag defending Langer or criticisng the NSW
mefia.

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On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 07:18:44 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:

>Has released a piece on his departure. If those NSW players and hacks who
>bought about his downfall possessed a small fraction of his class, dignity
>and devotion to Australian cricket then we'd all be in a far better place.
>
>
>https://tinyurl.com/2p9dz8dn
>
>
>alvey

I always thought Langer was the nice guy with a bit more upstairs than
the average Australian cricketer . Compared to Hayden it appeared that
way anyhow.

max.it

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On Wed, 09 Feb 2022 21:19:57 +0000, max.it wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 07:18:44 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Has released a piece on his departure. If those NSW players and hacks who
>>bought about his downfall possessed a small fraction of his class, dignity
>>and devotion to Australian cricket then we'd all be in a far better place.
>>
>>
>>https://tinyurl.com/2p9dz8dn
>>
>>
>>alvey
>
> I always thought Langer was the nice guy with a bit more upstairs than
> the average Australian cricketer . Compared to Hayden it appeared that
> way anyhow.
>

They're both batsmen, so expectations aren't high...

alvey
Wondering if anyone's ever done a study on cricketers intelligence by
speciality? I suspect it'd be;

1 Finger spinners
2 medium pacers
3 wicket-keepers
4 fast bowlers
5 mo batters
6 to batters
last - wrist spinners

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In message <1trhi4em27pho.1wuj2ig0eauly$.dlg@40tude.net>, alvey
<alvey@is.invalid> writes
>Wondering if anyone's ever done a study on cricketers intelligence by
>speciality? I suspect it'd be;
>
>1 Finger spinners
>2 medium pacers
>3 wicket-keepers
>4 fast bowlers
>5 mo batters
>6 to batters
>last - wrist spinners

You missed out a category below even wrist spinners: England cricket
captains. (Sorry, Joe!)
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But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:42:39 AM UTC, John Hall wrote:
> In message <1trhi4em27pho.1wuj2ig0eauly$.d...@40tude.net>, alvey
> <al...@is.invalid> writes
> >Wondering if anyone's ever done a study on cricketers intelligence by
> >speciality? I suspect it'd be;
> >
> >1 Finger spinners
> >2 medium pacers
> >3 wicket-keepers
> >4 fast bowlers
> >5 mo batters
> >6 to batters
> >last - wrist spinners
> You missed out a category below even wrist spinners: England cricket
> captains. (Sorry, Joe!)

I think there have been 80 england test captains and i suspect that as
most [all except Hutton?] before 1960 were amateurs, the majority
probably had university degrees, probably from Oxford or cambridge,
but since the 60s, most havnt. I can only think of Brearley, Atherton and
Hussain offhand. Of course whether a uni degree is a good guide to
intelligence, or being a good captain, is open to question.

mike

In message <4f981cbc-ca04-42a1-8ad2-21f526c88b38n@googlegroups.com>,
mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:42:39 AM UTC, John Hall wrote:
>> In message <1trhi4em27pho.1wuj2ig0eauly$.d...@40tude.net>, alvey
>> <al...@is.invalid> writes
>> >Wondering if anyone's ever done a study on cricketers intelligence by
>> >speciality? I suspect it'd be;
>> >
>> >1 Finger spinners
>> >2 medium pacers
>> >3 wicket-keepers
>> >4 fast bowlers
>> >5 mo batters
>> >6 to batters
>> >last - wrist spinners
>> You missed out a category below even wrist spinners: England cricket
>> captains. (Sorry, Joe!)
>
>I think there have been 80 england test captains and i suspect that as
>most [all except Hutton?] before 1960 were amateurs,

There were a few tours of Australia in the very earliest days that were
led by professionals, as purely money-making ventures.

> the majority
>probably had university degrees, probably from Oxford or cambridge,
>but since the 60s, most havnt. I can only think of Brearley, Atherton and
>Hussain offhand. Of course whether a uni degree is a good guide to
>intelligence, or being a good captain, is open to question.

A degree would probably be a lot better guide to intelligence nowadays
than an Oxford or Cambridge degree would gave been a hundred years ago.
But it still wouldn't guarantee that you were a good captain.
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

On 11/02/2022 15:11, mike wrote:
> I think there have been 80 england test captains and i suspect that as
> most [all except Hutton?] before 1960 were amateurs, [...].

Certainly not all; Lillywhite, Shaw and Shrewsbury [so the first,
two of the first three, and three of the first six] were professionals.

In relation to the discussion elsewhere in this thread, there would
of course have been no proper measure of intelligence for any of them up to
relatively recent times, and in any case IQ bears little relation either to
"intelligence" or, more relevantly, to cricketing captaincy or other skills
which include large elements of man-management and general sporting nous.

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