On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:18:04 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/13/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:57:09 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't bring your private chef either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Make that "BRAINWASHED "
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> would already be
>>>>>>>>>>>> double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
>>>>>>>>>> thought!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
>>>>>>>>> FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
>>>>>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try answering the question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
>>>>>
>>>>> Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
>>>>> up your own brainless additions.
>>>>
>>>> ================================
>>>> ~misfit~:
>>>> "Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
>>>> be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
>>>> well.]
>>>>
>>>> You:
>>>> "Make that "BRAINWASHED"
>>>> ===============================
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
>>>
>>> My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted
>>> is not sane.
>>
>> Then deal with that person without labelling me and people like me as
>> BRAINWASHED.
>
>I didn't, you did that yourself.
>What I said ( in one sentence ) that brainwashed people are vaccinated
>and boosted, what I didn't say is that all vaccinated people where
>brainwashed.

Nope, as already explained to you, the OP, according to you, was
including *everyone* in his claim. You simply changed the word "sane"
to "BRAINWASHED" so your comment equally applied to *everyone*.

>To be fair to you and seeing how you attack me, yup YOU are brainwashed.
>
>>
>>> So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious
>>> health issues with Covid.
>>> No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a
>>> superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the
>>> extinguished versions of the Virus.
>>>
>>> Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated
>>> or had a previous infection.
>>
>> There are almost 20K people in hospital with Covid right now in the UK
>> alone. How many do you reckon are in hospital with the cold?
>
>I don't know, in SA the hospitals are empty with a 20% vaccination rate.

I'll rephrase my question. There are currently 8.5K people in hospital
in South Africa with Covid [1]. Do you know anyone in hospital with
the cold?

[1]
https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/

>>
>>> No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it
>>> at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).
>>
>> All the top medical experts state
>
>Starting with such a statement, is childish and make any discussion
>impossible, are you aware of that?

How so? If you have a medical problem do you go to a doctor or do you
go looking for some self-declared expert on social media?

>
>> that the booster significantly
>> increases protection and significantl* reduces the chances of
>> hospitalisation.
>
>Pfizer you mean?
>Can you show data of that? We are talking about Omicron now you know.

How about the scientists in your own country:

"The scientists [in South Africa] concluded that "previous infection,
followed by vaccination - or likely a booster - is probably protective
against omicron, and almost certainly against severe disease."

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/14/covid-booster-dose-is-crucial-against-omicron-variant-heres-why.html
The article summarises results from all around the world, all saying
the same thing.

>
>> Just like in F1, you reckon you know better than the
>> qualified experts.
>
>Another off topic childish baseless labeling, are you aware of what you
>are doing?
>>
>>>
>>> I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed.
>>
>> You've just said that the person you responded to claimed that
>> everyone who is not boosted is not sane. You simply changed the word
>> "sane" to BRAINWASHED which meant you too were referring to everyone.
>
>Nope, brainwashed people go blindly for boosters every month.

I have an underlying cardiac condition for which I take 8 tablets
every day. Does that make me brainwashed?

>Not every vaccinated human is brainwashed but you most certainly are.
>>
>>
>>> There are good reasons for some people to do so, there are equally good
>>> reasons for a lot of people not to take boosters or no experimental jabs
>>> at all.>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> suggests that you
>>>>>> have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by
>>>>>> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance
>>>>>> to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be
>>>>> more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
>>>>
>>>> IOW, no alternative explanation available.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
>>>>>> think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
>>>>>> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
>>>>>
>>>>> So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
>>>>> multiple vaccinated person?
>>>>
>>>> I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
>>>> be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
>>>
>>> My question still stands, can a multiple vaccinated person be a anti-vaxxer?
>>> That is a pretty ludicrous statement IMO
>>
>> Answered in my earlier response to your preceeding post.
>
>Remind me or are you realizing now how foolish your suggestion is.

Whilst recognising your intellectual limitations, I did think you
could find a post from yesterday that was a direct response to one
from you. Anyway, here is what I said:

"My original post was in the context of *Covid vaccination*. From
everything you have said (and not said) so far, I continue to believe
that in that context of Covid vaccination, you do belong to that group
of anti-vaxxers who are fueled by some sort of conspiracy that the
Covid vaccine is really some nefarious plot by "them". I'm open to
being convinced otherwise but evasion won't convince me.

BTW, in regard to your "multiple vaccinations", how many of those were
voluntary on your part i.e. not decided by your parents when you were
a child or necessary for a visa to enter some country?"

Your lack of response to my final question suggests that none of your
multiple vaccines was voluntary on your part.

>
>Edmund