El martes, 3 de agosto de 2021 a las 9:27:27 UTC-6, Steve Flanagan escribió:
> On Tuesday, 3 August 2021 at 16:08:18 UTC+1, Laura Camacho wrote:
> > El martes, 20 de julio de 2021 a las 3:59:31 UTC-6, Steve Flanagan escribió:
> > > On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 21:49:25 UTC+1, anders t wrote:
> > > > Quoting Steve Flanagan in rec.sport.soccer:
> > > > >All
> > > > >
> > > > >From the 1970 World Cup through to 1990, teams could only use 2 of 5 subs rather than from the rest of the non-starting squad.
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm trying to compile a list of all unused subs in these World Cups. 1982 and 1990 have been completed, but I'm still missing the majority from 1970 and 1974, and smaller numbers from 1978 and 1986. Unfortunately FIFA have (in their collective wisdom!) listed all of the squad members as available substitutes for these matches.
> > > > >
> > > > >I would be most grateful if anyone can fill in any blanks from the following (or point me to where this info may be available):
> > > > >
> > > > >1970 (Mexico) - 26 matches
> > > > >Group One: All matches except Mexico v Soviet Union
> > > > >Group Two: All matches
> > > > SWEDEN against Italy
> > > > Formation: 4-3-3
> > > > 1 Ronnie Hellström (MV)
> > > > 2 Claes Cronqvist
> > > > 3 Kurt Axelsson
> > > > 4 Björn Nordqvist (K)
> > > > 5 Roland Grip
> > > > 6 Jan Olsson
> > > > 7 Tommy Svensson
> > > > 8 Bo Larsson OUT 80
> > > > 9 Leif Eriksson OUT 56
> > > > 10 Ove Kindvall
> > > > 11 Ove Grahn
> > > >
> > > > Ersättare (subs)
> > > > 12 Sven Gunnar Larsson (MV)
> > > > 13 Krister Kristensson
> > > > 14 Göran Nicklasson IN 80
> > > > 15 Inge Ejderstedt IN 56
> > > > 16 Sten Pålsson
> > > >
> > > > SWEDEN against Israel
> > > > Formation: 4-3-3
> > > > 1 Sven Gunnar Larsson (MV) (the fatal miss against Italy cost Hellström...)
> > > > 2 Hans Selander
> > > > 3 Kurt Axelsson
> > > > 4 Jan Olsson
> > > > 5 Roland Grip
> > > > 6 Tommy Svensson (K)
> > > > 7 Bo Larsson
> > > > 8 Thomas Nordahl
> > > > 9 Tom Turesson
> > > > 10 Ove Kindvall
> > > > 11 Örjan Persson OUT 75
> > > >
> > > > Ersättare (subs)
> > > > 12 Ronney Pettersson (MV)
> > > > 13 Claes Cronqvist
> > > > 14 Krister Kristensson
> > > > 15 Göran Nicklasson
> > > > 16 Sten Pålsson IN 75
> > > >
> > > > SWEDEN against Uruguay
> > > > Formation: 4-3-3
> > > > 1 Sven Gunnar Larsson (MV)
> > > > 2 Hans Selander
> > > > 3 Kurt Axelsson
> > > > 4 Björn Nordqvist (K)
> > > > 5 Roland Grip
> > > > 6 Tommy Svensson
> > > > 7 Bo Larsson
> > > > 8 Göran Nicklasson OUT 84
> > > > 9 Leif Eriksson
> > > > 10 Ove Kindvall OUT 57
> > > > 11 Örjan Persson
> > > >
> > > > Ersättare (subs)
> > > > 12 Ronney Pettersson (MV)
> > > > 13 Claes Cronqvist
> > > > 14 Krister Kristensson
> > > > 15 Tom Turesson IN 57
> > > > 16 Ove Grahn IN 84
> > > > >Group Three: All matches except those involving England (so Brazil v Czechoslovakia; Romania v Czechoslovakia and Brazil v Romania)
> > > > >Group Four: All matches
> > > > >Quarter Finals: All matches except England v West Germany
> > > > >Semi Finals: All matches
> > > > >Third Place match: West Germany v Uruguay
> > > > >
> > > > >1974 (West Germany) - 29 matches
> > > > >Group One: East Germany v Australia; Chile v East Germany; Australia v Chile; East Germany v West Germany
> > > > >Group Two: Yugoslavia v Zaire; Scotland v Brazil; Scotland v Yugoslavia; Zaire v Brazil
> > > > >Group Three: All matches except Uruguay v Netherlands
> > > > SWEDEN against Bulgaria
> > > > Formation: 4-3-3
> > > > 1 Ronnie Hellström (MV)
> > > > 2 Jan Olsson
> > > > 3 Bo Larsson
> > > > 4 Kent Karlsson
> > > > 5 Björn Andersson
> > > > 6 Ove Grahn
> > > > 7 Staffan Tapper
> > > > 8 Ove Kindvall OUT 73
> > > > 9 Conny Torstensson
> > > > 10 Ralf Edström
> > > > 11 Roland Sandberg
> > > >
> > > > Ersättare (subs)
> > > > 12 Göran Hagberg (MV)
> > > > 13 Roland Grip
> > > > 14 Björn Nordqvist
> > > > 15 Inge Ejderstedt
> > > > 16 Benno Magnusson IN 73
> > > >
> > > > SWEDEN against the Netherlands
> > > > Formation: 4-3-3
> > > > 1 Ronnie Hellström (MV)
> > > > 2 Jan Olsson OUT 74
> > > > 3 Kent Karlsson
> > > > 4 Björn Nordqvist
> > > > 5 Björn Andersson
> > > > 6 Staffan Tapper OUT 61
> > > > 7 Ove Grahn
> > > > 8 Bo Larsson
> > > > 9 Inge Ejderstedt
> > > > 10 Ralf Edström
> > > > 11 Roland Sandberg
> > > >
> > > > Ersättare (subs)
> > > > 12 Göran Hagberg (MV)
> > > > 13 Roland Grip IN 74
> > > > 14 Örjan Persson IN 61
> > > > 15 Conny Torstensson
> > > > 16 Ove Kindvall
> > > >
> > > > SWEDEN against Uruguay
> > > > Formation: 4-3-3
> > > > 1 Ronnie Hellström (MV)
> > > > 2 Björn Andersson
> > > > 3 Kent Karlsson
> > > > 4 Björn Nordqvist
> > > > 5 Roland Grip
> > > > 6 Ove Grahn
> > > > 7 Ove Kindvall OUT 75
> > > > 8 Bo Larsson
> > > > 9 Benno Magnusson OUT 61
> > > > 10 Ralf Edström
> > > > 11 Roland Sandberg
> > > >
> > > > Ersättare (subs)
> > > > 12 Göran Hagberg (MV)
> > > > 13 Jan Olsson
> > > > 14 Staffan Tapper
> > > > 15 Conny Torstensson IN 75
> > > > 16 Thomas Ahlström IN 61
> > > > >Group Four: All matches
> > > > >Semi Final Group A: All matches except Argentina v Brazil
> > > > >Semi Final Group B: All matches except West Germany v Sweden
> > > > SWEDEN against Poland
> > > > Formation: 4-3-3
> > > > 1 Ronnie Hellström (MV)
> > > > 2 Björn Andersson OUT 61
> > > > 3 Kent Karlsson
> > > > 4 Björn Nordqvist
> > > > 5 Roland Grip
> > > > 6 Staffan Tapper OUT 80
> > > > 7 Ove Grahn
> > > > 8 Bo Larsson
> > > > 9 Conny Torstensson
> > > > 10 Ralf Edström
> > > > 11 Roland Sandberg
> > > >
> > > > Ersättare (subs)
> > > > 12 Göran Hagberg (MV)
> > > > 13 Jörgen Augustsson IN 61
> > > > 14 Claes Cronqvist
> > > > 15 Inge Ejderstedt
> > > > 16 Thomas Ahlström IN 80
> > > >
> > > > SWEDEN against BRD (for completeness)
> > > > Formation: 4-3-3
> > > > 1 Ronnie Hellström (MV)
> > > > 2 Jan Olsson
> > > > 3 Kent Karlsson
> > > > 4 Björn Nordqvist
> > > > 5 Jörgen Augustsson
> > > > 6 Staffan Tapper
> > > > 7 Ove Grahn
> > > > 8 Bo Larsson OUT 32
> > > > 9 Conny Torstensson
> > > > 10 Ralf Edström
> > > > 11 Roland Sandberg
> > > >
> > > > Ersättare (subs)
> > > > 12 Göran Hagberg (MV)
> > > > 13 Roland Grip
> > > > 14 Sven Lindman
> > > > 15 Örjan Persson
> > > > 16 Inge Ejderstedt IN 32
> > > >
> > > > SWEDEN against Yugoslavia
> > > > Formation: 4-3-3
> > > > 1 Ronnie Hellström (MV)
> > > > 2 Jan Olsson
> > > > 3 Kent Karlsson
> > > > 4 Björn Nordqvist (K)
> > > > 5 Jörgen Augustsson
> > > > 6 Staffan Tapper
> > > > 7 Ove Grahn
> > > > 8 Örjan Persson
> > > > 9 Conny Torstensson
> > > > 10 Ralf Edström
> > > > 11 Roland Sandberg
> > > >
> > > > No changes!
> > > > Ersättare (subs)
> > > > 12 Göran Hagberg (MV)
> > > > 13 Roland Grip
> > > > 14 Claes Cronqvist
> > > > 15 Sven Lindman
> > > > 16 Thomas Ahlström
> > > > >1978 (Argentina) - 9 matches
> > > > >Group One: Italy v Hungary
> > > > >Group Two: West Germany v Mexico; West Germany v Tunisia
> > > > >Group Three: Brazil v Austria
> > > > For 1978 svenskfotboll.se shows all Swedish non starting players as subs.
> > > > >Group Four: Netherlands v Iran
> > > > >Semi Final Group A: Italy v Austria; Austria v West Germany
> > > > >Semi Final Group B: Brazil v Peru; Argentina v Peru
> > > > >
> > > > >1986 (Mexico) - 17 matches
> > > > >Group A: Argentina v South Korea; South Korea v Bulgaria; Argentina v Bulgaria
> > > > >Group B: Paraguay v Iraq; Mexico v Paraguay; Iraq v Belgium
> > > > >Group C: Canada v France; Soviet Union v Hungary; Hungary v Canada; Soviet Union v Canada
> > > > >Group D: Northern Ireland v Spain; Algeria v Spain
> > > > >Group E: Uruguay v West Germany; Denmark v West Germany
> > > > >Group F: All matches except those involving England (so Morocco v Poland; Poland v Portugal; Portugal v Morocco)
> > > > >
> > > > >Many thanks in advance
> > > > >
> > > > >Steve Flanagan
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> > > Anders
> > >
> > > Just as an aside, I had a look at the svenskfotboll.se website and for the 1978 competition it has the named substitutes as numbered 12 to 16 and the other members of the squads numbered from 90 onwards.
> > >
> > > Regards (and thanks again for the information)
> > >
> > > Steve
> > Steve,
> >
> > I am actually looking for similar information. Where were you able to find info for 1970, 74 and 78? Additionally, how are you dealing with info for 1994-2018? The reason I am asking is that I have found info but it is faulty. For example, for the sub roster for Bulgaria vs Argentina in 1994, Maradona is listed as a sub but he had already been suspended for doping.
> Laura
>
> The info for 1970, 1974 and 1978 has been sourced from a number of different places. As anders t has replied previously svenskfotboll.se provides the details for Sweden. www.englandfootballonline.com kindly provides the unused subs, for both teams, for all of England's matches. The rest has been gleaned from the very kind replies on here plus viewing the full match videos at https://www.footballia.net/ (you need to register for free to watch them). The majority of information for Netherlands has been taken from www.holland74.net and www.holland78.net (which provides the unused subs for some of their opponents as well). I also managed to glean some information from local newspaper reports as well, but they are very sporadic in providing unused substitute information.
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> As regards 1994 onwards, I do know that the rules were changed so that teams could use the permitted number of substitutes from the rest of the squad who were eligible to play. So, Maradona would not have been eligible (no matter what the reports on FIFA's website says), in much the same way that any player who had been sent off (or received 2 bookings) would also not have been eligible to be used as a substitute.
>
> Regards
>
> Steve

Steve,

My husband connected with Mikhail Bernatov and he was able to provide info on the GER-AUT 1978 subs. They were the following:

-GER: Fischer, Schwarzenbeck, Zewe, H. Muller and Kargus
-AUT: Happich, Persidis, Oberacher, Baumesiter and Fuchsbichler