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Re: (OT) Disappointing (thread)

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Posted: 5 Minutes ago by: iommiRULES

Yes i agree BESIDES finishing....Chytil should have lifted that one puck, and Kakko just mis-fired unforced on an open net. Also Lafreinere slammed a bullet off the post.....so its like they are getting there....but not quite there yet...

Re: (OT) Disappointing (thread)

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Posted: 2 Hours 1 Minute ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

The "kids line" I thought played very well. They need a lot more on offense from the top six.

Re: (OT) Disappointing (thread)

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Posted: 5 Hours 3 Minutes ago by: iommiRULES

Oh yes, now i remember....anyway get 1 in Carolina it will be first mission accomplished, play the same just build more than a 1 goal cushion, thats all...I just hope they shake this one off quick and don't hang their heads, they deserved

Re: (OT) Disappointing (thread)

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Posted: 5 Hours 10 Minutes ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

They did have one penalty called against them in the first period. It was a tripping call in the offensive zone when they were on a power play, about a hlf a minute into their power play.

Re: (OT) Disappointing (thread)

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Posted: 5 Hours 34 Minutes ago by: iommiRULES

Lets put it this way, that game last night was playoff hockey that the Rangers played vs a really good team. It seemed last series it was "The less sloppy team will win" both Pitt and the Rangers at times looked horrible, even tho it made

Re: (OT) Disappointing (thread)

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Posted: 6 Hours 6 Minutes ago by: iommiRULES

I agree they went into a defensive shell to early (The canes had a lot to do with that tho) but i think, besides scoring more, they played about as perfect of a first 2 periods of playoff hockey as you can expect.....there was absolutely

Giants sign 2 cornerbacks who played for the Ravens

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Posted: 8 Hours 32 Minutes ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

https://nypost.com/2022/05/18/giants-sign-ex-ravens-corners-maurice-canady-khalil-dorsey/ At least they are familiar with Wink's defense.

Re: (OT) Disappointing (thread)

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Posted: 9 Hours 7 Minutes ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

I thought they played superb the first period and were only up one goal because the Carolina goalie played very well. I think the second period was pretty even with the Rangers maybe playing slightly better. And then they stopped trying

(OT) Disappointing

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Posted: 16 Hours 33 Minutes ago by: iommiRULES

But not the end of the world, by far the Rangers played best 40 minutes of hockey so far these playoffs. But only a 1 goal lead to show for it so it came back to kill them....Dunno what Miller was doing on that Aho Goal. I wouldn't change a

Re: Bradberry signs with the eagles (thread)

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Posted: 19 Hours 32 Minutes ago by: iommiRULES

And Archie Griffin won the Heismann not once but TWICE. Plus the Giants seem to be the only ones to hold 2nd round stock in the kid....Its Schoens first roll of the dice...

(OT) Just DO NOT

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Posted: 19 Hours 35 Minutes ago by: iommiRULES

Do not let Sebastian Aho run freely and unchecked like they did with Cindy first 4 games of last series.....if they do that its gonna be a short series for the Canes to advance....If they stay in Aho's face and slow him down early and often

Re: off topic: Sam Rosen interview (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

I also switched at times between MSG and MSG+ for the same reason, switching luck.

Re: Bradberry signs with the eagles (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Hey, the kid caught 103 passes playing in the SEC, by far the best conference in college football. There has to be some talent there.

Re: Bradberry signs with the eagles (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day 3 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Especially that we have ZERO WR that scare ANYONE at this point, here is hoping they knew something when they picked mighty might, because a high #2 SHOULD come with big expectations.....and Mini Me plays more than half the games like Ton

Re: off topic: Sam Rosen interview (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day 3 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Well i switched to change luck and it worked! I know dumb superstition but.....also Marvs son the regular radio guy for the Rangers does a lot of the games....its also good to get a more neutral point of view, same reason people shouldn't

Bradberry signs with the eagles

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Posted: 1 Day 3 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2022/05/18/philadelphia-eagles-sign-cornerback-james-bradberry/ I know due to the cap the Giants could not retain him, but it sucks that he is going to a divisional rival.

off topic: Sam Rosen interview

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Posted: 1 Day 8 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

https://nypost.com/2022/05/17/sam-rosen-talks-key-to-rangers-hurricanes-series-future-in-booth/ BTW, it looks like MSG will have no more playoff games. Very disappointing, though I guess we should be glad they allowed them to have the 1st

Re: (OT) Interesting stat (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 3 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Unfortunately, one of the late goals he gave up was in the third overtime period of game 1. But 79 saves is unworldly

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 6 Hours ago by: TomW

The play I was referring to was the one in OT behind the net, it wasn't Crosby. The Ranger for no reason just grabbed the Pen around the back of the neck and took him down while ripping his helmet off from the back. But it paid off for the

(OT) Interesting stat

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Posted: 2 Days 6 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Igor had a very up and down series...except when it came to third period or later. Shesterkin had an out of this world .990 save pct in the games 3rd period or later....of course the games he was pulled he never made it to 3rd! This points

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 6 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Also from what i heard cindy wasnt complaining about getting his helmet knocked off, he was complaining about the rule where he had to go to the bench if you cant put it back on right away.

Re: Giants sign both first round pick, Thibodeaux and Neal

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Posted: 2 Days 15 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Its especially bad for RBs who are now finding it hard to cash in after their Rookie contracts are up.....they are considered used up and replaceable by then! Look at the ballad of Leveon Bell...the best all around back in the league coul

Re: Giants sign both first round pick, Thibodeaux and Neal

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Posted: 2 Days 15 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Ever since the picks have been slotted contract-wise the ONLY reason for a rookie to hold out is if they do not want to play for the team like Eli, altho the Eli thing was pre slotted contracts. The owners got tired of shelling out 100 mi

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 15 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

At most that could have been roughing.....even in a regular season non OT game players get away with more than that on almost every scrum in front of the goal. Cindy should have got a lot more a lot earlier til Trouba finally took care of

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 19 Hours ago by: TomW

Since you guys are talking about rules and I don't know the rules, is it always legal to grab a player around the neck and rip his helmet off? Or is it like the NFL and the rules change during playoffs.

Re: Giants sign both first round pick, Thibodeaux and Neal

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Posted: 2 Days 21 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Six of the eleven draft picks have now been signed. https://www.giants.com/news/kayvon-thibodeaux-evan-neal-contract-nfl-draft-2022-rookie-minicamp

Re: -(OT) Season A Success (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 23 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

When the Rangers won the cup in '94 that series vs the Canucks was great too but i thought the conference final vs Devils was even more intense and classic....double OT game 7 win...the Messier guarentee, playing maybe the best goalie eve

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 23 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Thats why its Judgement they thought his momentum would have bowled the goalie any way....if he had his breaks on or his angle was different it might have counted, watching it live action i knew it was gonna be a close call, i know Michel

Re: -(OT) Season A Success (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 23 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

I look at it the same way I looked at the Giants beating dallas on the way to Super Bowl XLVI. At that point, the season was a success. Also beating Green Bay, San Francisco, and finally New England in the Super Bowl was just extra icing

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

That his path was going towards the goalie does not mean that he could not without the push pull up or to the side to not contact him.

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 1 Hour ago by: iommiRULES

I said the highstick call replay was inconclusive, which it was, the goalie interference they could clearly see there was contact before but that Kakkos path was going into the goalie regardless of contact, which is a Judgement call.

-(OT) Season A Success

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Posted: 3 Days 1 Hour ago by: iommiRULES

Not like i would be satisfied but as long as the Rangers bring the Canes to 6 games the season will have to be considered a success for a team who the window is just opening, as opposed to a team like the Pens whose window is closing.....es

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 2 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

The stick was well above the crossbar also. And if inconclusive means going with the call on the ice, that is not what happened in game 1.

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 2 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

There is no way that holding in football on the line could ever be part of replay unless they change the rule////"You CAN hold as long as it isn't outside your shoulders and you do not reach out and grab, but make sure you hold no longer

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 3 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

The rule is actually the crossbar not shoulder, and i think u can file that one under "inconclusive". if it was called no goal originally it would have been no goal, there was no conclusive replay. The Goalie interference, which seems 100

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 4 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Yes, I agree about Lindgren. There was a definite fallout from the first game going triple overtime. Lindgren was out a few games and the Penguins goalie who was already replacing the first string goalie also went down, and in fact never

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 4 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

I think They ALL can do better as far a consistent full series, but Mika really got hot last few games....If you are looking for the unsung hero look no further than Lindgren....he goes down the Rangers play shittiest ive seen them all ye

Re: The BREADMAN!!!! (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 8 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Did they do a "stars of the game" after the game? I would have said: #3 Shesterkin #2 Shesterkin #1 Shesterkin But they would have only done him as #1 with his 42 saves. I guess the other two would have been Zbanajad with the tying go

The BREADMAN!!!!

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Posted: 3 Days 16 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Shoot Panarin Shooooooot! Goddamn dunno how these guys do it....i feel like i've been thru 3 rounds already just watching on my fat ass!.....guess im out of playoff viewing shape, been awhile, for any of my fave teams....

OT: Longtime MLB Pitcher Died On Saturday At 57

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Posted: 4 Days 2 Hours ago by: *ernie

David West, a longtime MLB relief pitcher, passed away following a battle with brain cancer. According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, West is the sixth former Phillies player to die of brain cancer over the last 20 years. https://www.ms

Re: Giants sign both first round pick, Thibodeaux and Neal

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Posted: 4 Days 2 Hours ago by: *ernie

Great news. Last thing a team needs is their draft picks getting a late start.

(OT) Winner of Rangers/Pitt...

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Posted: 4 Days 19 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

......Gets Carolina

Only 3rd time in NHL history

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Posted: 5 Days 16 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

The Rangers only 3rd team ever to come back in consecutive games down by 2 or more goals facing elimination to win those games....i dunno how the other 2 turned out....they didn't say....

(OT) Oh the Drama

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Posted: 5 Days 16 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Down 2-0 we had them right where we wanted them! Ha Ha. Actually i woulda been happy trailing 2-1 at end of 2nd but it was 3-3, thanks to that horrible blue line turnover by Trouba. Well back to MSG and for the first time in the series the

Re: No Crosby tonight---concussion (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 22 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Rangers are Faves (-130 moneyline)....but that dooesn't mean shit, Rangers were favorites every game i think, didnt mean shit....never big favorites tho. Going into the first round in the east i dont think anyone would be that surprised i

No Crosby tonight---concussion

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Posted: 5 Days 23 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

https://nypost.com/2022/05/13/sidney-crosby-will-not-play-for-penguins-in-game-6/

Igor Gotta grow up

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Posted: 6 Days 2 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

I'm not saying he was definately rattled because the Pitt crowd....but u never know, put yourself in his skates.....young russian guy, prolly was brainwashed that america was the great Satan as a kid, his country is at war and you got 18,00

If Rangers and Caps Win tonight

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Posted: 6 Days 5 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

ALL FOUR Eastern conference first rounders will go to a game 7....crazy...talk about parity...

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 6 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

They CERTAINLY should have been hitting him hard and often early whether he got injured or not. It was a clean hard hit. No penalty and not even a fine after it was reviewed under a microscope at the league offices... but just like footba

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 14 Hours ago by: TomW

I know Crosby has a history with concussions that's why to me it looked like an elbow to the head isn't what I would call clean. But if it's legal I guess it's ok. I only responded because you made it seem like they should have tried to ta

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 15 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 15 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Also Cindy has had many concussions....and i think that is what he has. And from what i understand the more you get the easier it is to get another.....

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 16 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

It was good clean hockey.....this is pro sports, there isnt a Giants defensive lineman wo ever lived who would shed a tear taking the opposing QB out with a clean sack. Not one. In fact it was CINDYS OWN FAULT, he had his head down. Bette

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 18 Hours ago by: TomW

Well Jeff, like I said I'm not a hockey fan so I didn't see that play and I probably shouldn't be replying to a hockey thread since I have no knowledge about the game but I'm not a fan of cheap shots no matter who is it.

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 19 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Tom, what about the Penguins who tried to take out the Rangers' goalie near the end of game 2. Note, he was fantastic in the first 2 games and less than ordinary games 3 and 4 after that unnecessary hit. He only really reverted to his all

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 19 Hours ago by: TomW

I'm not a hockey fan but my son in law and grandson are hard core Penguins fans. But all I can say is that even if it was a clean hit it your statement says a lot about your team if they have to take out the opposing teams star player to w

2022 schedule

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Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

open at Tennessee first home game the next week against Carolina Thanksgiving at the turds https://nypost.com/2022/05/12/giants-2022-nfl-schedule-week-1-18-dates-times-opponents/

Re: Schoen and Daboll at the Rangers game (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Maybe they could get the Rangers to attend their games. 😉

Re: Schoen and Daboll at the Rangers game (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days ago by: iommiRULES

Garden was rocking last night....hopefully they get Met Life like that again....nah... at least not til few years prolly....

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 3 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Also hats off to lingren....Fox seems LOST out there without him but he came to play even tho in obvious pain....Thats why i don't think Fox will ever be as good as Leetch, he just isnt the defensive player Leetch was, and prolly never wi

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 3 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Just heard not only no suspension for Trouba not even a fine.....good hit.....may even be a series winning hit, shoulda happened sooner wouldnt be in this hole.

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 3 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Mike Sullivan, the piece of shit who coaches the Penguins disagrees with you about whether it was a clean hit. (I never heard him say anything when one of his players rammed into Shesterkin near the end of game 2.) https://nypost.com/202

Schoen and Daboll at the Rangers game

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Posted: 7 Days 3 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&threadb2426

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 5 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

The thing that annoyed me the most was when Igor gave the puck away 13 seconds after they took the lead...you can tell he was conservative with it after that....which is what he should have been doing all game/series long, thats the story

Vegas must of hated Joe Judge

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Posted: 7 Days 5 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

And lets hope they are right....the Giants over/under open on wins is a respectable (for the Giants) 7.5....don't forget there is 17 games now tho but im sure 8-9 would be considered a vast improvement if not a success. I guess last place s

Re: (OT) We Live (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 7 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Has there been any report of what the Crosby injury is? The Rangers should have put that game away before the empty net goal. They had 2 power plays after taking the lead and a 4 on 1 breakaway after 2 Penguins collided knocking each oth

(OT) We Live

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Posted: 7 Days 16 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Now we gotta play something resembling playoff hockey in Pittsburg, instead of the horseshit we saw in games 3 and 4. The first game in Pitt i thought both teams played like shit, the 2nd Game it was just the Rangers who played like shit. T

nice article about Kayvon Thibodeaux

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Posted: 9 Days 8 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32121480/oregon-kayvon-thibodeaux-more-next-potential-no-1-nfl-draft-pick

OT: Goodbye Rangers

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Posted: 9 Days 8 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

All season they gave up way too many shots on goal and legitimate scoring chances and Shesterkin saved them. Now all of a sudden in games 3 and 4 of the playoffs, Shesterkin has changed into a mediocre goalie. Oh well, it was a nice run.

Re: Bradberry released! (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 19 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Lets not forget this isnt the old days when u needed 2 starting corners, today you need THREE as teams play in nickle now more than they will the base defense, to match up with 3 wide (2 wideouts and a slot). Good luck Wink....

Bradberry released!

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Posted: 9 Days 20 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

https://nypost.com/2022/05/09/giants-cut-james-bradberry-with-no-trade-available/

Re: (OT) About Time (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 17 Hours ago by: 4546

te LOL !! Yup, she's a prodogy. Very good. I enjoy Bandmaid, since they write their own music. And are continuing the tradition.

Re: (OT) About Time (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 2 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Sorry its not your baby metal fetish 45.....the girl is italian not japenese!

Re: (OT) About Time (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 4 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

And lets be honest.....Dolly Parton and Lionel Richie are FAR from modern day artists anyway! They both were in their peak when rock was King!

Re: (OT) About Time (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Joe belongs in before plenty who are in. Next band im waving the flag for is the Scorpions...they are playing the Garden in their 70s for christ sakes what more do the voters need to see!

Re: (OT) About Time (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 6 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Oh there is no doubt that rock is not as dominate as it once was, so just call it the "commercial music HOF" .....can't really call it pop music HOF because pop in and of itself is a genre. On the other hand when i see videos like this wi

Re: (OT) About Time (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 7 Hours ago by: 4546

I'm afraid that rock is slowly sliding away, similar to the big band sound our elders loved. Since it's a combinaton of the swing and country and blues it's more solid. But a fading style. I'm seeing more combinations of Hip Hop and coun

Re: (OT) About Time (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 9 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

My question about the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is why no Joe Cocker.

(OT) About Time

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Posted: 13 Days 17 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Priest HOF.....prolly the only band with Balls in the whole class....Dolly Parton? Lionel Richie? Ones country pop and the other is R and B pop. Just rename it the Music HOF drop the "Rock n roll" Charade.... https://www.billboard.com/musi

Re: Schoen giving Toney an out. (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 4 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

All you have to do is turn on the radio or TV....or read the comments section on the sports pages to know many want to get rid of Jones asap.....in fact i think the ONLY thing that saved DJ, being the Giants had not only one but TWO high

Joe Schoen being interviewed by Mike Florio

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Posted: 14 Days 8 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nig_PHyRIE

Re: RIP: Erich Barnes

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Posted: 14 Days 8 Hours ago by: TomBenton

I met and talked with him prior to a Giants game once. He was a really nice guy. RIP.

Re: Schoen giving Toney an out. (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 15 Hours ago by: *ernie

If there is a question of who starts at qb, Schoen has already failed. He had ton of capitol this off-season to address the issue if there was doubt.

Re: Front office shakeup

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Posted: 14 Days 15 Hours ago by: *ernie

If this has been part of the brain trust the past few years, I say good riddance.

Re: Front office shakeup

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Posted: 14 Days 16 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Heard from who? I do remember a report Tony might be on the block but dunno where it originated.....seems a bit extreme and underhanded if its true tho. Almost like what they call "entrapment" in court.

Re: Front office shakeup

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Posted: 14 Days 16 Hours ago by: Slipperman

i had heard that Schoen purposely let it slip to Pettit that they were thinking of letting Toney go in an effort to smoke out a 'mole' in the org'n. when a single NY writer wrote something on the subject, they knew it was Pettit who leake

Re: Schoen giving Toney an out. (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 21 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Schoen also said it was made clear to Tyrod that DJ was starter he was back up...of course that could be subject to change depending on how Jones plays but looks like it is DJ's job to lose. It does seem like they have real hope for Jones

Schoen giving Toney an out.

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Posted: 14 Days 22 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Heard Schoen on WFAN he Didnt get into specifics about the Toney absence but said "well it is voluntary and we understand things come up in players lives"...so apparently there was a reason he showed late.....lets just hope it wasn't Toney

Talking Giants--draft choices and undrafted free agemts

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Posted: 15 Days 1 Hour ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

https://www.giants.com/video/giants-huddle-rick-serritella-on-giants-draft-haul

Re: What I hope For (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 2 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

i think most liked the top 2.....after that its anyones guess, there was so many you figure 1 or 2 may step up but might take awhile

Re: London Calling (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 2 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

I believe the Giants are undefeated in London. 2-0.

Re: What I hope For (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 2 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Florio did like the Giants' draft this year.

What I hope For

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Posted: 15 Days 3 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Just get the Giants back to relevance. Go into december with the arrow pointing up and a chance to be an above .500 team and still in in the wildcard race. NOT the Joke we were end of last year when if not for the Jags and a decent defense

London Calling

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Posted: 15 Days 4 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Giants vs Packers oct 9th. Well maybe they will not Rodgers in England if he is not vaccinated!

Re: Front office shakeup

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Posted: 15 Days 14 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

So im assuming the ones that got fired he didnt like their work on THIS draft and also they had no input that was used....you would assume...or maybe they got pissed about the 2nd rounder and called him a cunt like Columbo called Judge!

Re: Baker still looking for Job (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days ago by: iommiRULES

Oh and Foles winning a Super Bowl should prolly trump "i worked with that dude before" ! Guess Tyrod is a little younger....im not even sure of that tho....

Re: Baker still looking for Job (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days ago by: iommiRULES

I dont see how he would know.....being this is the weakest QB class in memory and only ONE was drafted even in the first 2 rounds. He may have been thinking like Jones....i'm getting 1 year to prove it.

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 4 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Well in the sense that half of them bust you can say that....but people will always question a bust no matter what it seems but the stars they will just say "we knew it" save for the Bradies or Kurt Warners of the world, because they CAN'

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 4 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

All picks are "reaches". You could go second in the draft where you are predicted to go like Ryan Leaf or Tony Mandarich and be a huge bust. Would it have been a reach if the Giants had drafted Victor Cruz instead of Ramses Barden? I gues

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 5 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Remember Jones wasnt pegged as a "3rd or 4th rounder" which would be comparable to the mighty mite reach scenario...the lowest grade i remember DJ getting was high 2nd round, but that was by no means the consensus, that was lowest. And y

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 5 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Everyone knows "they got who they wanted" the question we are all asking is was it the right guy in the right spot being almost everyone and their brother had him going in rounds 4 or 5.....knucklehead or genius, time will tell. What we

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 5 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Paul Schwartz much the same thoughts as me, but he is nicer and more educated, i said "Knucklehead or Genius" he said "Indictment" or "Prescient": The response by the Giants after moving down from 36 to 43 could be the make-or-break move

Re: Baker still looking for Job (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 8 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Schoen and Daboll both knew Taylor from having him at Buffalo. Trubisky got his $, and had to know that the Steelers were very likely to draft a qb in the first round.

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 8 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

All it takes is one team to take who you want if you wait. For instance, it was speculated that the Broncos were interested in Jones and he would not have lasted until the spot they took Dexter Lawrence. And I will repeat---I DO NOT GIVE

Baker still looking for Job

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Posted: 16 Days 22 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

I also hear Foles was cut....i wonder if Schoen woulda wanted Foles instead of Tyrod if Foles was in play earlier...I wanted Trubisky. Now After the Steelers drafted Pickett #1 i bet Trubisky could be lamenting his choice......which seemed

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 22 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

I'm thinking they took him because Toney is a lose cannon and can't be trusted....because they have similar attributes. That still doesn't mean they couldn't have got the same guy later in the draft. Remember the big to do that Jones shou

Here's one "expert" who gave the Giants an A and like the second

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Posted: 16 Days 22 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2022/mike-taniers-2022-draft-not-grades And love the line about having a lot of draft picks to wash Gettleman off the roster.

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 15 Hours ago by: TomW

What did Ralph and the consensus say about Flowers or Hernandez or Haskins or hundreds of other flops? It's all BS more than anything else. Put him on the field and see what he can do. And he may be a small target but that doesn't matter

Re: UDAs (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 16 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Interesting looking at that list i posted.....1964 was the best draft in history if you go by HOFers (11).....but one guy made it in as a coach...a 7th round OT picked by Detroit.....his name? Bill Parcells. Now THATS trivia!

Re: UDAs (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 17 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

I'd say that huge TE from Nebraska prolly has a good chance to make the varsity...Last decent one we had was prolly Boss who left as a FA but ended up with not much of a career after that..If no dark horses step up when the Giants get out

Re: UDAs (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 17 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Well i'm sure you remember the days when the draft was like 15 rounds Tom, I do.....so these kids can say they woulda been drafted as recently as '92 which was the last year it was 12 rounds. Obviously it is better for the kids to be UDA'

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 18 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

And you are right....i think this pick has Andy Reid/Kafka written all over it....but they got Hill in round 5...tho he was worth a high #1...Miami now i guess so he can abuse the Jets, who also wanted him...but Hill is one of the most if

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 19 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Any kid coming out of Liberty (gulp) is gonna have question marks,....the argument is the Giants coulda used the 2nd on a more highly rated prospect and STILL got mini me later on.....listen just because its a reach doesnt mean he will bu

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 19 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Fine, it was a reach who fits into their offensive scheme and in drafting him #43, they also received 2 extra draft picks. Depth, remember what happened to them last season when 2 signed linemen retired during training camp, Lemieux was i

UDAs

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Posted: 17 Days 21 Hours ago by: TomBenton

https://www.nj.com/giants/2022/05/here-is-giants-2022-undrafted-free-agent-class-so-far-and-which-are-most-likely-to-make-53-man-roster.html Tom Benton There are good days and there are bad days, and this is one of them.

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 23 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

It was RALPHS NFL SOURCES not Ralph. N.....F....L.....not some asshole who has a mock draft podcast....and i'm sure NFL.com hires former scouts or whatever because their profiles are very in depth, they are not Jeff from upstate NY....con

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Both Daboll in Buffalo and Kafka in Kansas City ran offenses that they think Robinson fits well into. And let's not forget they traded down twice to get him, so they got the player they wanted and two additional later picks. And I don't

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: iommiRULES

Also just like i didnt give Joe Judge the benefit of the doubt as a rookie HC (even tho he had quite a few cheerleaders in the fan base and media at first) why should i give Schoen the benefit of the doubt as a rookie GM? Because he was a

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 2 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

And since you keep mentioning Kiper i looked up his picks....and altho i didnt see anything on the mini WR in question i did see he had Thebow 2nd and Neal 3rd overall......so maybe we should hope Kiper IS RIGHT!

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 2 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

No because Ralph V, NFL.com and others say it....thats the meaning of CONSENSUS, i dunno Kipers board....i mean shit people are still bitching and complaining that DJ wasnt picked 10 slots lower.....never mind 2 ROUNDS lower. Sorry if i'm

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 3 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Why is he a 4th rounder? Because Kiper and his ilk say so? At the beginning of round 2 Kiper had his #1 available player as the qb Willis. He did not go first or in fact at all in the 2nd round. What did he end up? A 4th rounder, I believ

Re: post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 3 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

The biggest headscratcher seems to be the mini might WR in the 2nd round. Consensus seems to be he was a 4th rounder and they could have waited to get him.....also he is similar to Toney. Lets hope he proves them all wrong and we have the

post draft press conference Schoen and Daboll

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Posted: 18 Days 7 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&threadb1990

Re: (OT) 2nd No Hitter in Mets history (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 20 Hours ago by: *ernie

When you're a Met's fan, you learn to take it any way it comes and appreciate it.

Re: We got the "other" LSU CB (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 2 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Yes and they were saying Pit is perfect fit for Pickett.....but also it does seem to justify giving DJ another year too... then revisit drafting a QB next draft depending on how well DJ does. I'm sure Trubisky isnt thrilled tho! Like i sa

Re: We got the "other" LSU CB (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 4 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

I just listened to some pre-draft talk by Florio and Simms. Florio said the over/under on quarterbacks taken in the first round was 2.5. He took the OVER figuring three would be taken. Simms was closer to being right as he would have won

Re: We got the "other" LSU CB (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 4 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

You can't even grade after one year....if you did RG2.5 would have been HOF and Thomas a bust and Beckton the second coming of Anthony Munoz......shit how long did it take Leo to live up to his draft status? Sometimes it matters if its a

Re: We got the "other" LSU CB (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 4 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Again it takes 3 years to know, the grades that come out monday before these kids even PRACTICE is LAUGHABLE....that is the exact reason i say the draft while obviously important is way over rated, these assholes jumping up and down or b

Re: WR....mini speedster (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 4 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Right so in 3 years after we can properly grade these guys Schoen is either a knucklehead or a genius.....he cant fall back on "well everyone was wrong on that guy".....but then again if the top 2 become stars and the rest crap out it wi

Re: WR....mini speedster (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 4 Hours ago by: TomW

You've said it many times that the draft is a crap shoot. So rather than listen to all the talking heads I will have faith in the guys that have their jobs on the line and have a history of making good picks.

Re: We got the "other" LSU CB (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 4 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

We know how Mel Kiper rates each teams draft---by how close it was to his draft. And how many of these "experts" had Willis as the first quarterback off the board, some as high as the pick by Detroit second in the first round..

We got the "other" LSU CB

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Posted: 19 Days 6 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Again this kid was a 5th rounder according to NFL.com...which makes him the 3rd reach in a row for the Giants if you go by their scouting...if nothing else it seems Schoen is very off script at least after the first 2 picks....of course the

Re: Its been quiet (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 7 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Which makes the pick even more "curious" assuming he isnt trying to look desperate to get more for trading Toney.

Re: Its been quiet (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 9 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Schoen was asked about that after drafting a similar player and said they are not shopping Toney.

(OT) 2nd No Hitter in Mets history

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Posted: 19 Days 16 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Albeit by 5 pitchers. 6 walks. 13 strikeouts Tylor Megill started the game. First MLB no hitter for 2022.

Re: WR....mini speedster (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 16 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Ralphs Grade C+, he calls the pick "curious": https://www.sny.tv/articles/grading-giants-pick-wan-dale-robinson-2022-nfl-draft

Its been quiet

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Posted: 19 Days 16 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

On the Bradberry/Toney front.....i thought Toney might have been forgivin, but now that they drafted a similar player high i dunno....

Guard 3rd round

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Posted: 19 Days 16 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Again looks like another reach if you go by NFL.com https://www.nfl.com/prospects/joshua-ezeudu/3200455a-4542-6541-4b5c-8ae0c567f895

Re: WR....mini speedster (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 18 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Not a very impressive scouting profile for how high he was drafted......i guess the Giants are gonna use a lot of gadget plays, which have of course been on the rise in the NFL the past 5 years or so....maybe a PR? But this high i would b

WR....mini speedster

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Posted: 19 Days 18 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

This is a high #2 so a lot is expected.....only 5'8.....guess they are hoping he is the Tyreek hill type...who was a 5th rounder if you are wondering.

Re: 5th year option (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 20 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

I agree this is DJ's "Baker Mayfeild" year if you will. I mean Baker was playing with 1 arm all last year he still didnt get a Mulligan. See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya! We will take the sex freak, TYVM! And as for Lawrence yea maybe he has

Re: 5th year option (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 22 Hours ago by: *ernie

Makes sense. 2022 is do or die for Jones, there's no more 'potential' in the decision to keep or dump. Lawrence is a keeper; steady but not All-Pro.

Re: I want the guy who made the pick on the sidelines

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Posted: 20 Days 5 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

I totally forgot the draft was even on!....of course everyone knows my feelings how the draft is over rated, and Mike Florio shares my feelings apparently...but i was watching the NBA playoffs (which i had some modest bets on) and never t

not a surprise

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Posted: 20 Days 10 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

but surely not the safe "culture pick" in Thibodeaux

5th year option

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Posted: 20 Days 20 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

They picked up Dexter Lawrence's 5th year option. They are not picking up the 5th year option for Daniel Jones.

Schwartz Prediction

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Posted: 20 Days 22 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Paul thinks it will be Bama OT Neal (No surprise) and LSU CB Stingley (Somewhat of a surprise because most predict edge rusher). This would not surprise me because if you can't cover its to easy for a QB to get rid of it even if you have LT

The way I look at it....

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Posted: 20 Days 22 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

.....besides maybe a few guys on D....Say Leo, McKinney and Martinez as long as he comes back 100%....i think this upcoming season is a try out for ALL the DG guys, not just Saquan and DJ. New GMs/Coaches will not hesitate pressing the reje

Re: (OT) Big shift in NFL Announcers (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 21 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

And on a side note i heard Netflix lost 200,000 subscribers, why? Well i would say its because these "Amazon Prime TV's" and "Apple TV plus" services are basically becoming a copy of Netflix.....but WITH sports, Netflix has no sports....

Re: (OT) Big shift in NFL Announcers (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 22 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

I can't see that TNF game on amazon being the "A" game many weeks tho.....maybe opening night if they got that one. Micheals would prolly just want weekends off at this point tho he doesnt care. I'm hoping MNF gets back to its former glor

Re: Giants who played in the USFL (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days ago by: Slipperman

Fans? what fans? that stadium is totally empty for practically every game.

Re: Deebo on the block (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days ago by: Slipperman

speaking of diva WR's

Re: (OT) Big shift in NFL Announcers (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days ago by: Slipperman

! i wish Collinsworth went to Amazon along with Michaels. to me those 2 were the best pairing on TV. don't like the Herbstriet hire - he's a college guy. Tirico is an OK replacement on NBC though. Don't mind Buck and Aikman. not sure what

Parcells interview

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Posted: 22 Days 1 Hour ago by: iommiRULES

Talking both Baseball and Giants....on Jones "He has to get going but All these QB's look the same if you don't block for them". https://www.facebook.com/watch/?vQ1454863781139

Re: Shmelck, O'Hara, and Diehl discuss the o-linemen available in the draft (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 1 Hour ago by: iommiRULES

they say at least one will be and also not a huge difference between the 3.....at this point they are saying that anyway....of course that doesnt mean anything til we grade them out in 3 years, til then its an educated guess at best...rem

Re: Shmelck, O'Hara, and Diehl discuss the o-linemen available in the draft (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 3 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Yes, but which one of the three tackles? And will they all be available when it comes to the Giants turn to pick?

Re: Shmelck, O'Hara, and Diehl discuss the o-linemen available in the draft (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 3 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

It is a no-brainer the first pick will be one of the top 3 tackles.....the mystery lies in the 2nd pick.....

Shmelck, O'Hara, and Diehl discuss the o-linemen available in the draft

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Posted: 22 Days 3 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

real good stuff! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8r6JdsX_gg

Re: Toney shows up (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 18 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

And remember rookie contracts are slotted and controlled, so the new team cant say "well you gave him the contract we didn't".

Re: (OT) Big shift in NFL Announcers (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 18 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Well at least for the Aikman haters.....and im not one of them, i think he was good even if of course he still had Cowgirl blood in him....well now most the Giants games of import on Fox will be called by the local guy Kevin, who like me

Re: Toney shows up (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 19 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

So it would be the same hit if they kept him, just the hit would come immediately? To me the the fair thing would be for the new team to assume the cap hit including bonus AND pay the Giants back a portion of the bonus pro rated for time

Re: Toney shows up (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 21 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

From what I have read both cutting and trading would hurt the Giants cap wise as his signing bonus would accelerate.

(OT) Big shift in NFL Announcers

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Posted: 24 Days 1 Hour ago by: iommiRULES

For those who were not keeping score.... Al Micheals leaves NBC to do the thursday night NFL games for Amazon Prime TV and will be joined by Kirk Herbstriet, Herbie will still do College Football for ESPN. I'm assuming if you have Amazon P

Toney shows up

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Posted: 24 Days 2 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Better late than never or to little to late? My guess is his agent gave him a wake up call and a swift kick in the ass.....I know he is still under contact but i'm not sure how that works out if the Giants just straight out cut him. I'm sur

Re: trade Toney ?

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Posted: 24 Days 4 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Plus Tom as i said you never heard a peep out of OBJ til "The Catch" and Lebron tweeted about him. And from all accounts OBJ is a hard worker in practice...well the headcase to end all headcases is A.B. with T.O. 2nd. I don't recall the G

Re: trade Toney ?

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Posted: 24 Days 7 Hours ago by: TomBenton

This guy might be the biggest head case since Joe Don Looney. OBJ doesn't count. He produced at least.

Re: draft analysis--over the last 5 years we are #32, the worst!

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Posted: 24 Days 18 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

I hold no stock in this list....I think if you ran it up a pole 90% of Giants fans would say Saquan....he won rookie of the year, but to present Jones and others have done much more since then....and he was a #2 overall, which in this day

Re: trade Toney ?

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Posted: 24 Days 18 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Imagine getting to the point of your dreams then just fucking it all up as soon as it starts? I guess it WASNT his dream. I dunno the issue....Drugs? Mental issues? Just a lack of ambition?......he certainly has ZERO leverage if he just

Re: draft analysis--over the last 5 years we are #32, the worst!

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Posted: 24 Days 20 Hours ago by: *ernie

It's that 6 slot that propels Jones past Baker who went at 32. Granted, all things equal I'd take both Jones and Lawrence over Baker.

Re: draft analysis--over the last 5 years we are #32, the worst!

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Posted: 25 Days 3 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Ernie, let's not forget that the same year he took Jones (and Lawrence) in the first round, he also traded up into the first round for DeAndre Baker. That has to be a worse pick.

Re: trade Toney ?

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Posted: 25 Days 3 Hours ago by: *ernie

He spent so much time out hurt last year, would anyone even notice he's gone?

Re: draft analysis--over the last 5 years we are #32, the worst!

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Posted: 25 Days 3 Hours ago by: *ernie

When I saw he wrote Daniel Jones was their worst pick, I thought that was a little harsh so I looked back at the drafts since 2017. Hate to say it but he's probably right; all things considered. I still think he has what it takes to b

Re: trade Toney ?

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Posted: 25 Days 23 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Be lucky to get a 3rd with his attitude...apparently the kids Super Bowl was just getting drafted and cashing his first year checks....memo asshole, yes maybe teams have to put up with SUPERSTARS who are assholes......but not kids out of

Re: Whats worse than a Diva WR? (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 4 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

well we know they picked toney....the object is to hit on both not one...or none....the extra pick doesnt give you a mulligan on the trade down. that bein said dunno if toney is a bust yet, but can u imagine the headache this guy will be

Re: Whats worse than a Diva WR? (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 9 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

Before the last draft, there was a lot of criticism of Gettleman that he never traded down. Then he made this trade as their target pick was taken just before them after the trade between their divisional rivals. He was generally praised.

Whats worse than a Diva WR?

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Posted: 28 Days 18 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

A WR who THINKS they are a Diva but hasn't proved shit yet. OBJ was relatively low key til "The catch heard round the World" on MNF.....i mean this kid wasnt even takin in the top half of the first round! He showed very elusive moves.....bu

Re: Deebo on the block (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 2 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Unless we give them Golladay and Saquan!....but if niners dont wanna give Deebo what he wants i'm sure they do not want our overpaid players....

Deebo on the block

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Posted: 29 Days 2 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

I'm guessing we don't have enough cap room...well more than a guess....

Re: relations with players much less uptight with the new coaching regime (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 3 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

Yea read that one....guess Joe had the guys walking on eggshells, probably the assistants too, problem was every assistant he fired the units got WORSE (Columbo, Garrett).....I like the part when McKinney says Daboll was smoking a stogie

relations with players much less uptight with the new coaching regime

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Posted: 29 Days 4 Hours ago by: jeffg...@webtv.net

https://nypost.com/2022/04/19/xavier-mckinney-giants-uptight-atmosphere-gone-with-daboll/

Did OBJ sink Bakers ship?

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Posted: 29 Days 17 Hours ago by: iommiRULES

After the Browns took Bakers side and cut OBJ.....but then saw the OBJ resurgeance with the Rams, i wonder if they then decided Baker was actually the problem...but now OBJ is hurt once again and til this day OBJs best years was with Eli be

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