On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 05:00:50 -0000, Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:

> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>> I absolutely detest that auto synching stuff.
>
> I love it. Totally painless photo management
>
>> I want stuff to go where I put it and to know what I'm putting where.
>
> Me too. That it is all done automatically - using wi-fi - makes it even
> better.

But you're delegating it to someone else (the computer). How on earth do you know where it goes?

>> Just because I take a photo on one device does not mean I'm going to want it on another.
>
> I want it everywhere. As quickly as possible.
>
>> I bet you don't even know where the file is.
>
> Of course I do.
>
>> Is it on your phone?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Your computer?
>
> Yes. I assume you mean Windows PC. A phone IS a computer. So is an
> iPad.

Yeah ok, and so is my watch. [rolls eyes]

>> In the same folder on both devices?
>
> Yes. On way more than 2 devices.
>
>> What if the folder structure is different?
>
> It’s the same. In the 21st century I no longer worry about “folder
> structure”.

WTF? You must know where you store things. Like you know what cupboard you put the pans in in the kitchen.

>> Have you now got stuff all over your computer's disk in different places
>> you don't know about?
>
> No, all in the same place.
>
>> What if you don't want another user of the computer seeing the photo you just took?
>
> No one else uses my stuff. Everyone in this house has their own
> iPhone/iPad/Windows laptop. And they have all of THEIR photos on all of
> THEIR stuff.

Ooooh one each eh! Aren't we posh.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 07:33:04 -0000, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

> On 12/12/2022 11:56 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 13:45:46 -0000, Les Cargill <lcargil99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Bluetooth does. I don't know of a good way for
>>> you to gather data to see this.
>>
>> I've ordered a BT5 adapter for my PC. I'll see if the measured 2Mbit increases.
>> If it really is way less than 48Mbit, then it's a shitty design.
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/what-bluetooth-version-is-on-my-pc-f5d4cff7-c00d-337b-a642-d2d23b082793
>
> LMP 0 Bluetooth Core Specification 1.0b (withdrawn)
> LMP 1 Bluetooth Core Specification 1.1 (withdrawn)
> LMP 2 Bluetooth Core Specification 1.2 (withdrawn)
> LMP 3 Bluetooth Core Specification 2.0 + EDR (withdrawn)
> LMP 4 Bluetooth Core Specification 2.1 + EDR (deprecated, to be withdrawn)

I know, and I have this one, LMP4, BT 2.1. I get 2Mbps.

I cannot believe BT5 won't be dramatically faster. Still not arrived though due to lazy workshy postmen.

> LMP 5 Bluetooth Core Specification 3.0 + HS (deprecated, to be withdrawn)
> LMP 6 Bluetooth Core Specification 4.0
> LMP 7 Bluetooth Core Specification 4.1
> LMP 8 Bluetooth Core Specification 4.2
> LMP 9 Bluetooth Core Specification 5.0
> LMP 10 Bluetooth Core Specification 5.1
> LMP 11 Bluetooth Core Specification 5.2
>
> "Core" means anything which is labeled "Optional"
> in the spec is not supported. It's possible a
> proprietary stack might support a different
> feature set.
>
> Which is different than in the past, when
> the stack came on the driver CD.
>
> It's possible a device that has Windows IoT installed,
> will work differently.
>
> "Who can say, because it's Bluetooth, an enigma wrapped in toilet paper"
>
> Do all the modulation schemes interwork ? Or is it like
> USB3, where you can't use USB3 rate, until the negotiation
> using USB2 mode completes first. Does a part of the
> equipment switch back and forth, like when pairing ?

The most annoying thing I find with USB is the power level. Mainly shitty connectors, shitty cables, and Chinese amps in power supplies. I've got two 3.1A supplies here. One gives me 1.7A, the other 0.9A! The seller didn't like it when I tested the current using a piece of heating element (which I also bought from China).

On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 05:00:50 -0000, Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:

> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>> I absolutely detest that auto synching stuff.
>
> I love it. Totally painless photo management
>
>> I want stuff to go where I put it and to know what I'm putting where.
>
> Me too. That it is all done automatically - using wi-fi - makes it even
> better.
>
>> Just because I take a photo on one device does not mean I'm going to want it on another.
>
> I want it everywhere. As quickly as possible.

Why? Surely you do completely different things on your computer and phone? It's not often the same file is needed on both.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:00:19 -0000, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

> Am 13.12.22 um 05:55 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
>> Why on earth would you not want to be in full control of where your stuff is? I use my computer for some things and my phone for others. I don't want all the files on both, that would be pure insanity and a complete and utter waste of disk space.
>
> I'm more in control where my data are than you ever will be

No, everything goes everywhere with you.

> with this very old style methods.

You sound like a fashion victim.

> And BTW: I'll never ever have data losses due to defects of the devices,

SSDs don't do that.

> theft or loss of the device.

Unless your house is broken into by a burglar or the police and they're all taken.

> And BTW: Cost of storage space is not very much different from Zero.

Really? My data disk on this computer is $500. I wouldn't want that on all 8 computers and 2 phones.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:00:19 -0000, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

> Am 13.12.22 um 05:55 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
>> Why on earth would you not want to be in full control of where your stuff is? I use my computer for some things and my phone for others. I don't want all the files on both, that would be pure insanity and a complete and utter waste of disk space.
>
> I'm more in control where my data are than you ever will be

You have on your computer photos from your phone, and photos from your computer, and every other device you and your family owns, placed there by software. You have yourself a mess. An analogy would be you make a cup of coffee and place it on your desk, and magically a cup of coffee appears on every surface in your house. Your wife makes a drink of tea, and one of those appears next to you. But maybe you didn't want tea. Maybe she didn't want coffee. You'd soon have a very untidy house.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 15:13:28 -0000, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

> Am 13.12.22 um 12:27 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:00:19 -0000, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 13.12.22 um 05:55 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
>>>> Why on earth would you not want to be in full control of where your stuff is? I use my computer for some things and my phone for others. I don't want all the files on both, that would be pure insanity and a complete and utter waste of disk space.
>>>
>>> I'm more in control where my data are than you ever will be
>>
>> No, everything goes everywhere with you.
>>
>>> with this very old style methods.
>>
>> You sound like a fashion victim.
>>
>>> And BTW: I'll never ever have data losses due to defects of the devices,
>>
>> SSDs don't do that.
>>
>>> theft or loss of the device.
>>
>> Unless your house is broken into by a burglar or the police and they're all taken.
>
> You did not understand the concept. QED.

Looks like you don't understand what happens when all your devices are stolen at once.

>>> And BTW: Cost of storage space is not very much different from Zero.
>>
>> Really? My data disk on this computer is $500. I wouldn't want that on all 8 computers and 2 phones.
>
> *ROTFLSTC*. Once more: You do not understand modern and secure data
> management concepts.

What on earth has that got to do with the cost of the devices?