Jim Burns wrote:

>>> There are no "activity", no "action" in mathematics
>>
>> Generators generate. That's an activity.
>
> Then stepping stones must step.

Yes, sure, but Russia had to chose between giving gas and oil to europe on
fake money, or as now, getting invaded from all directions, making the gas
and oil they own, now free liquefied to the western capitalist europe.

I bet they are preparing to attack Russia from all directions. It may be
the reason for which the russians are going back.

Also, strange that brother slavic countries, as Poland, Tchekoslovakia,
Bulgaria, Estonia, Lituania, and the other one, not even to mention the
fictitious "ukraine", are bending asses to capitalist western europe
subjugation, and hence, are not there to help anymore.

The liberal capitalist EU were about to kick Poland out, just a month ago.
Incredible, my friend.

On 4/2/2022 2:17 PM, Richie Cruze wrote:
> Jim Burns wrote:

>>>> There are no "activity", no "action" in mathematics
>>>
>>> Generators generate. That's an activity.
>>
>> Then stepping stones must step.
>
> Yes, sure, but Russia had to chose between giving gas and oil to europe on
> fake money, or as now, getting invaded from all directions, making the gas
> and oil they own, now free liquefied to the western capitalist europe.
>
> I bet they are preparing to attack Russia from all directions. It may be
> the reason for which the russians are going back.
>
> Also, strange that brother slavic countries, as Poland, Tchekoslovakia,
> Bulgaria, Estonia, Lituania, and the other one, not even to mention the
> fictitious "ukraine", are bending asses to capitalist western europe
> subjugation, and hence, are not there to help anymore.
>
> The liberal capitalist EU were about to kick Poland out, just a month ago.
> Incredible, my friend.

Fuck. You.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_zHOBaWfrg

Jim Burns wrote:

>>> Then stepping stones must step.
>>
>> Yes, sure, but Russia had to chose between giving gas and oil to europe
>> on fake money, or as now, getting invaded from all directions, making
>> the gas and oil they own, now free liquefied to the western capitalist
>> europe.
>> I bet they are preparing to attack Russia from all directions. It may
>> be the reason for which the russians are going back.
>> Also, strange that brother slavic countries, as Poland, Tchekoslovakia,
>> Bulgaria, Estonia, Lituania, and the other one, not even to mention the
>> fictitious "ukraine", are bending asses to capitalist western europe
>> subjugation, and hence, are not there to help anymore.
>> The liberal capitalist EU were about to kick Poland out, just a month
>> ago. Incredible, my friend.
>
> Fuck. You.

No, thanks. I'm not that pretty.

Eram semper recta schrieb am Samstag, 2. April 2022 um 19:07:37 UTC+2:
> On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 20:05:31 UTC+3, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 18:09:55 UTC+3, WM wrote:

> > > > But all FISONs are finite, i.e., less than ℵo.
> > > False, you assert this but cannot prove it.
> > This poor idiot Zelos is telling you that ℵo exists without any proof whatsoever, but then ironically asks you to prove that ℵo does
> > not exist.
> The burden of proof lies with the cranks of mainstream academia.

He asked me to prove that all FISONs are finite!

Regards, WM

William schrieb am Samstag, 2. April 2022 um 18:56:31 UTC+2:
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 11:47:39 AM UTC-3, WM wrote:
> > William schrieb am Freitag, 1. April 2022 um 22:52:13 UTC+2:
>
> > > Nope, a simple statement of the way things are if you take the axiom of infinity.
> > Here we see that this axiom leads to contradictions if applied to FISONs.
> Nope. You want "The union of a set of FISONs is a FISON". This is (trivially) false if the set has no largest element.

It is trivially true for the sequence of FISONs. That has nothing to do with a last element.

> (The union will not have a largest element and thus cannot be a FISON).

Every union of FISONs has a last element. This fact is forced by construction.
But this last element is not always the same. It is easily replaced by a larger one.

> There union has no largest element, not because there is a FISON with no largest element, but because the set has no largest FISON.

There is no largest FISON, but there is no ℵo-FISON. Hence the union over FISONs is not an ℵo-set.

Regards, WM

> Also, strange that brother slavic countries, as Poland, Tchekoslovakia,
> Bulgaria, Estonia, Lituania, and the other one, not even to mention the
> fictitious "ukraine", are bending asses to capitalist western europe
> subjugation, and hence, are not there to help anymore.

Yes, it really is strange how the war criminal 卐Путин卐 attacked his
fellow Slavs in Ukraine, targeting civilians! Especially when so many
Russians are married to Ukrainians, or are half Russian and half
Ukrainians. That's why many Russian soldiers sabotaged their own
equipment, they have FAMILY there.

What kind of insane war criminal 卐Путин卐 must be, to kill fellow Slavs
just so he can have his Третий Рейх! Maybe his real name is 卐Путлер卐.

卐Путин卐 хуйло!.

p.s. No such country as Czechoslovakia/Tchekoslovakia any more.

Michael Moroney wrote:

>> Also, strange that brother slavic countries, as Poland, Tchekoslovakia,
>> Bulgaria, Estonia, Lituania, and the other one, not even to mention the
>> fictitious "ukraine", are bending asses to capitalist western europe
>> subjugation, and hence, are not there to help anymore.
>
> Yes, it really is strange how the war criminal 卐Путин卐 attacked his
> fellow Slavs in Ukraine, targeting civilians! Especially when so many
> Russians are married to Ukrainians, or are half Russian and half
> Ukrainians.

You are deluded, without the entire liberal capitalist western illegal
nato, actively participating with military crap and personnel, the "war"
had been over in two (2) days. But now it looks like they are preparing to
attack Russia, to get the gas and oil for free, from all directions.

Does not matter, Putin or another, from the continuity of government,
would possibly make the western liberal capitalis europe, not habitable
for decades and centuries. I really don't understand Poland participating
to the crime, with own people killed in masses by the "ukrainian" nazis,
written in history, then also just a month ago, about to be kicked out of
EU for a capitalist reason.

Liberal capitalism eats your mind, friend. Turns friends into enemies.

On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 12:04:43 UTC-3, WM wrote:
> horand....@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 2. April 2022 um 02:26:09 UTC+2:
> > On Friday, 1 April 2022 at 15:16:35 UTC-3, WM wrote:
>
> > > F(1) ⊂ F(2) ⊂ F(3) ⊂ ... There is no last FISON, but there is no infinite FISON. It is impossible that two or more elements of A are contained in FISONs but are not contained in one FISON.
> > "two or more" is wrong. Infinitely many (different) FISONs are not contained in a single FISON.
> Obviously you use "infinitely" with no specification in accordance with the frauds of matheology.

Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about. Just as the set of all natural numbers, IN, has cardinality aleph_0, so does the set of all singleton sets {n}, and the set of all FISONs. And just as an FYI: "infinitely many different FISONs" means exactly that: FISONs which infinitely many different endpoints. There is no way to cram all of those into a finite set. But no FISON(n) cannot contain n+1, anyway, so you are blowing it out of arse as usual.

On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 4:08:30 PM UTC-3, WM wrote:

> Every union of FISONs has a last element.

Nope. The union of all FISONs is an infinite set. There is no such thing as a "Potentially infinite set".

--
William Hughes

On 4/2/2022 2:21 PM, Richie Cruze wrote:
> Michael Moroney wrote:
>
>>> Also, strange that brother slavic countries, as Poland, Tchekoslovakia,
>>> Bulgaria, Estonia, Lituania, and the other one, not even to mention the
>>> fictitious "ukraine", are bending asses to capitalist western europe
>>> subjugation, and hence, are not there to help anymore.
>>
>> Yes, it really is strange how the war criminal 卐Путин卐 attacked his
>> fellow Slavs in Ukraine, targeting civilians! Especially when so many
>> Russians are married to Ukrainians, or are half Russian and half
>> Ukrainians.
>
> You are deluded, without the entire liberal capitalist western illegal
> nato, actively participating with military crap and personnel, the "war"
> had been over in two (2) days. But now it looks like they are preparing to
> attack Russia, to get the gas and oil for free, from all directions.
>
> Does not matter, Putin or another, from the continuity of government,
> would possibly make the western liberal capitalis europe, not habitable
> for decades and centuries. I really don't understand Poland participating
> to the crime, with own people killed in masses by the "ukrainian" nazis,
> written in history, then also just a month ago, about to be kicked out of
> EU for a capitalist reason.
>
> Liberal capitalism eats your mind, friend. Turns friends into enemies.

Putin is a dumbass,
He sends in a army to shoot up building and destroy cities, destroy water, gas + sewer, destroy all the jobs, make the people move away, when all he
could have done is bribe all the officals and some of the people, and keep everything intact.

It would have been a lot cheaper, for Putin the Stupid.

sergio wrote:

>> You are deluded, without the entire liberal capitalist western illegal
>> nato, actively participating with military crap and personnel, the
>> "war" had been over in two (2) days. But now it looks like they are
>> preparing to attack Russia, to get the gas and oil for free, from all
>> directions.
>> Does not matter, Putin or another, from the continuity of government,
>> would possibly make the western liberal capitalis europe, not habitable
>> for decades and centuries. I really don't understand Poland
>> participating to the crime, with own people killed in masses by the
>> "ukrainian" nazis, written in history, then also just a month ago,
>> about to be kicked out of EU for a capitalist reason.
>> Liberal capitalism eats your mind, friend. Turns friends into enemies.
>
> Putin is a dumbass, He sends in a army to shoot up building and destroy
> cities, destroy water, gas + sewer, destroy all the jobs, make the
> people move away, when all he could have done is bribe all the officals
> and some of the people, and keep everything intact. It would have been a
> lot cheaper, for Putin the Stupid.

You can't read, much less understand. Idiot. Russia already won, ground,
air, politically and strategically. But has to take care not being
attacked from the many fronts. They want the oil and gas for fake money.

What Russia was fighting against. Not the "ukraine".

Blockbuster: Witness Describes How the NATO Lie Machine Staged the
Mariupol Hospital Attack ‘White Helmets Style’
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/blockbuster-witness-describes-
how-the-nato-lie-machine-staged-the-mariupol-hospital-attack-white-
helmets-style/

Interview with Marianna Vyshemirskaya - Inside Russia Report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0rqHB41__A "On March 9, the world media
published horrifying footage from Mariupol, where, according to the
Ukrainian authorities, pregnant women and children were killed as a result
of a "Russian airstrike" on a city hospital.

Hmm.. 12 minutes and they were there taking photos.

The search for Soviet weapons. Zelensky calls two Generals traitors.
Update 3
https://theduran.com/the-search-for-soviet-weapons-zelensky-calls-two-
generals-traitors-update-3/

On 4/2/2022 2:08 PM, WM wrote:
> William schrieb am Samstag, 2. April 2022 um 18:56:31 UTC+2:
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 11:47:39 AM UTC-3, WM wrote:
>>> William schrieb am Freitag, 1. April 2022 um 22:52:13 UTC+2:
>>
>>>> Nope, a simple statement of the way things are if you take the axiom of infinity.
>>> Here we see that this axiom leads to contradictions if applied to FISONs.
>> Nope. You want "The union of a set of FISONs is a FISON". This is (trivially) false if the set has no largest element.
>
> It is trivially true for the sequence of FISONs. That has nothing to do with a last element.
>
>> (The union will not have a largest element and thus cannot be a FISON).
>
> Every union of FISONs has a last element. This fact is forced by construction.
> But this last element is not always the same. It is easily replaced by a larger one.
>
>> There union has no largest element, not because there is a FISON with no largest element, but because the set has no largest FISON.
>
> There is no largest FISON, but there is no ℵo-FISON. Hence the union over FISONs is not an ℵo-set.
>
> Regards, WM

you have confused yourself again, try using math;

is this infinite ?

{{FISON(1)},FISON(2)},{FISON(3)},...}

(hint: the elements are finite)

On 4/2/2022 2:01 PM, WM wrote:
> Eram semper recta schrieb am Samstag, 2. April 2022 um 19:07:37 UTC+2:
>> On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 20:05:31 UTC+3, Eram semper recta wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 18:09:55 UTC+3, WM wrote:
>
>>>>> But all FISONs are finite, i.e., less than ℵo.
>>>> False, you assert this but cannot prove it.
>>> This poor idiot Zelos is telling you that ℵo exists without any proof whatsoever, but then ironically asks you to prove that ℵo does
>>> not exist.
>> The burden of proof lies with the cranks of mainstream academia.
>
> He asked me to prove that all FISONs are finite!
>
> Regards, WM

Can you ?

Well, we are waiting....

The clock is ticking....

(hint: it is easy to prove)

On 4/2/2022 4:49 PM, Richie Cruze wrote:
> Zelensky calls two Generals traitors.
> Update 3
> https://theduran.com/the-search-for-soviet-weapons-zelensky-calls-two-
> generals-traitors-update-3/

And the Ukrainians call (at least!) seven Russian generals DEAD. ☠️
A bunch of Colonels, too.

Too bad for 卐Путлер卐 !

Michael Moroney wrote:

> On 4/2/2022 4:49 PM, Richie Cruze wrote:
>> Zelensky calls two Generals traitors. Update 3
>> https://theduran.com/the-search-for-soviet-weapons-zelensky-calls-two-
>> generals-traitors-update-3/
>
> And the Ukrainians call (at least!) seven Russian generals DEAD. ☠️ A
> bunch of Colonels, too.

ohh yeah, I see how your brain is hardwired, the russians are not
"ukrainians". Nor you an "american", whatever your nationality is. What an
idiot.

But the nazi zelenske is not a "president", being kicked out by his own
nazis, moved to Germany,from the beginning. Understand this, gentlemen,
the gay nazi zelenske is a paid puppet, everything he says is scripted and
the background proved fake.

Watch how Ukrainian war reporter switches backdrop with remote control
while reporting! https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jxp3MG7XF4YZ/

That's why the russian army don't need to stay there, the zelenske nazis
are to be kicked out anyway. They kept the citizens in poverty, now for 30
years.

On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 22:01:25 UTC+3, WM wrote:
> Eram semper recta schrieb am Samstag, 2. April 2022 um 19:07:37 UTC+2:
> > On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 20:05:31 UTC+3, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > > On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 18:09:55 UTC+3, WM wrote:
>
> > > > > But all FISONs are finite, i.e., less than ℵo.
> > > > False, you assert this but cannot prove it.
> > > This poor idiot Zelos is telling you that ℵo exists without any proof whatsoever, but then ironically asks you to prove that ℵo does
> > > not exist.
> > The burden of proof lies with the cranks of mainstream academia.
> He asked me to prove that all FISONs are finite!

Same thing, isn't it? :-) He is asking you to disprove his claim that there is an infinite FISONS.

It's like saying "You can't prove that God does not exist, therefore God exists".

This is very similar to the crap Axiom of Infinity. As far as fundamentalist mainstream cranks are concerned, infinity exists as a well-formed concept unless you can prove it does not.

No amount of proof that infinity is a junk concept will turn a crank because his set theory beliefs depend on it.

>
> Regards, WM

lördag 2 april 2022 kl. 09:24:57 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
> On Friday, 1 April 2022 at 21:07:27 UTC+3, WM wrote:
> > William schrieb am Freitag, 1. April 2022 um 19:46:29 UTC+2:
> > > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 10:51:12 AM UTC-3, WM wrote:
> > >
> > > > (There is no infinite set but only a potentially infinite collection of FISONs.)
> > > Piffle
> > (1) The union of FISONs cannot contain more than the sequence of FISONs..
> > (2) The sequence does not contain more than is already unioned in at least one term of the sequence.
> > (3) Every term is finite.
> >
> > What can't you read or understand?
> >
> > If you can understand, then you know: if |ℕ| = ℵo then there must be dark natural numbers.
> Okay, now I see why you are calling them "dark numbers", because you are trying to educate baboons who think infinity is possible.
>
> So, "dark number" is your way of poking fun at them?
>
> Dark number in simple language means "number that cannot be known", which makes perfect sense in this context.
>
> Fact of the matter is that "dark numbers" do not exist. You should try telling them these things plainly followed by 3 hail Marys.
>
> However, you fall into a similar trap when you claim a formula defines a number. In this case there will always be "dark digits" that you can never know. Chuckle.
>
> What I am saying is that you need to be consistent.
>
> FISON argument is sound - always has been - it's so simple that any unpolluted brain can grasp it, but where brains infected with syphilis are concerned, all bets are off.
>
> >
> > Regards, WM

As usual, you got everything wrong here.

lördag 2 april 2022 kl. 17:08:04 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 2. April 2022 um 09:13:41 UTC+2:
> > fredag 1 april 2022 kl. 11:53:43 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> > > zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 1. April 2022 um 06:43:53 UTC+2:
> > >
> > > > There are no "activity", no "action" in mathematics
> > > Generators generate. That's an activity.
> > >
> > There is no activity, things just are.
> in your brain?
>
> Regards, WM

I do things, but mathematics does not have actions.

lördag 2 april 2022 kl. 17:09:55 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 2. April 2022 um 09:15:15 UTC+2:
> > But all FISONs are finite, i.e., less than ℵo.
> > False, you assert this but cannot prove it.
> Chuckle.
>
> Regards, WM

Yet you cannot prove it, hence demonstrating my point

söndag 3 april 2022 kl. 06:31:18 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
> On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 22:01:25 UTC+3, WM wrote:
> > Eram semper recta schrieb am Samstag, 2. April 2022 um 19:07:37 UTC+2:
> > > On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 20:05:31 UTC+3, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 18:09:55 UTC+3, WM wrote:
> >
> > > > > > But all FISONs are finite, i.e., less than ℵo.
> > > > > False, you assert this but cannot prove it.
> > > > This poor idiot Zelos is telling you that ℵo exists without any proof whatsoever, but then ironically asks you to prove that ℵo does
> > > > not exist.
> > > The burden of proof lies with the cranks of mainstream academia.
> > He asked me to prove that all FISONs are finite!
> Same thing, isn't it? :-) He is asking you to disprove his claim that there is an infinite FISONS.
>
> It's like saying "You can't prove that God does not exist, therefore God exists".
>
> This is very similar to the crap Axiom of Infinity. As far as fundamentalist mainstream cranks are concerned, infinity exists as a well-formed concept unless you can prove it does not.
>
> No amount of proof that infinity is a junk concept will turn a crank because his set theory beliefs depend on it.
>
>
> >
> > Regards, WM

You are the crank Gabriel :)

lördag 2 april 2022 kl. 19:05:31 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
> On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 18:09:55 UTC+3, WM wrote:
> > idiot schrieb am Samstag, 2. April 2022 um 09:15:15 UTC+2:
> > > But all FISONs are finite, i.e., less than ℵo.
> > > False, you assert this but cannot prove it.
> This poor idiot Zelos is telling you that ℵo exists without any proof whatsoever, but then ironically asks you to prove that ℵo does
> not exist.

It exists axiomatically so it is not necessary to be proven you imbecile.

>
> The same university (Oops-Allah) also teaches that:

Jealous I got from a good university.

>
> "h*f(x)/h means h is a factor of f(x)." - Zelos Malum/Markus Klyver

Quote mining, It was to demonstrate your points are invalid because you can always add those.

>
> You can't fix stupid I am sorry to inform you.

I will keep trying to fix you, regardless of how stupid you are (and you are very stupid
>
> > Chuckle.
> >
> > Regards, WM

William schrieb am Samstag, 2. April 2022 um 22:11:59 UTC+2:
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 4:08:30 PM UTC-3, WM wrote:
>
> > Every union of FISONs has a last element.
> Nope. The union of all FISONs is an infinite set. There is no such thing as a "Potentially infinite set".

All that can be unioned from the sequence of FISONs has already been unioned in the sequence of FISONs. But nothing there is infinite. Therefore a final union cannot result in an infinite set.

Regards, WM

The imbecile clown WM drivels:

> William schrieb am Samstag, 2. April 2022 um 22:11:59 UTC+2:
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 4:08:30 PM UTC-3, WM wrote:
>>
>>> Every union of FISONs has a last element.
>> Nope. The union of all FISONs is an infinite set. There is no such thing as a "Potentially infinite set".
>
> All that can be unioned from the sequence of FISONs has already been unioned in the sequence of FISONs. But nothing there is infinite. Therefore a final union cannot result in an infinite set.

In mathematics, a set A is Dedekind-infinite if
some proper subset B of A is equinumerous to A.

Piss off, moron

On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 9:08:30 PM UTC+2, WM wrote:
>
> Every union of FISONs has a last element.

No, you silly idiot, the union of _all_ FISONs doesn't have a last element.

Hint: 1 e U FISONs and for each and every n e U FISONs: n+1 e U FISONs. Hence U FISONs = IN, since U FISONs c IN. So the union of all FISONs doesn't have a last element, since IN doesn't have a last element.

On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 3:42:04 PM UTC-3, WM wrote:
> All that can be unioned from the sequence of FISONs has already been unioned in the sequence of FISONs.
Nope, False. True is: The union of any finite set of FISONs has already been unioned in the sequence of FISONs.

Since there are an infinite number of FISONs, "All that can be unioned" is an infinite set.

--
William Hughes