dlzc wrote:

> Dear Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:

This is a newsgroup, not e-mail. We do not write letter-like messages to
each other here, we write as if in a public discussion where there is an
audience.

> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 3:43:47 PM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars'
> Lahn wrote:
>> dlzc wrote:
>> > The Higgs boson does no longer couple Standard
>> > particles to the Higgs field
>> How did you get the idea that it was ever supposed to?
>
> Back when it was originally formulated, and called the "God particle".

Utter nonsense. To begin with, the Higgs boson was never called “the God
particle” in a scientific medium, but in a popular-scientific book, and more
as a dare to the publisher (who, to the authors’ surprise, accepted the
title). Unfortunately, mass media have used and some keep using that catchy
term, to the dismay of many physicists:

<https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/03/15/174440162/the-man-who-coined-the-god-particle-explains-it-was-a-joke?t=1634062887343>

Tom Roberts, who by contrast to me is a working particle physicist, has
already debunked the rest of your unfounded fantasies. Nothing more needs
to be added to that.

PointedEars
--
I heard that entropy isn't what it used to be.

(from: WolframAlpha)

“In 1916, the year after the final formulation of the field equations of general relativity, Albert Einstein predicted the existence of gravitational waves. He found that the linearized weak-field equations had wave solutions: transverse waves of spatial strain that travel at the speed of light,” (Abbott2, Intro).

The LIGO gravitational wave interaction with the interferometer mirror produces a 10-18 m mirror displacement but massless electromagnetic gravitational waves depicted with Maxwell equations (Einstein5, § 20) and the gauge cannot displace the LIGO interferometer mirrors. Compton photon momentum (p = λ/h) is used to justify the LIGO mirror displacement but experimentally, a 3 W laser beam or 1 W X-ray (dt = .1s) does not displace a gold foil which invalids the concept of massless electromagnetic gravitational waves displacing the LIGO mirrors.

"I have shown how to obtain field equations of gravitation that comply with the postulate of general relativity" (Einstein, p. 117).

"dh/dt + rot e = 0...............................................76

div h = 0...........................................................77

rot h - de'/dt = i................................................78

div e' = p"........................................................79

(Einstein5, § 20).

Einstein5 , Albert. The Foundation of the General Theory of Relativity. Annalen der Physik. Königlich Preussische Akademie der Wissenschaften. 1916. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Foundation_of_the_Generalised_Theory_of_Relativity

Dear Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> dlzc wrote:
>
> > Dear Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
>
> This is a newsgroup, not e-mail. We do not write letter-like messages to
> each other here, we write as if in a public discussion where there is an
> audience.

Let each man lay his dead according to his own fashion. I understand that you have nothing further to say TO ME on this topic.

David A. Smith

dlzc wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars'
> Lahn wrote:
>> dlzc wrote:
>> > Dear Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
>>
>> This is a newsgroup, not e-mail. We do not write letter-like messages to
>> each other here, we write as if in a public discussion where there is an
>> audience.
>
> Let each man lay his dead according to his own fashion. I understand that
> you have nothing further to say TO ME on this topic.

No, you are so self-absorbed that you willfully ignore the facts that are
PRESENTED TO YOU on this topic. Hopeless.

PointedEars
--
Q: Where are offenders sentenced for light crimes?
A: To a prism.

(from: WolframAlpha)

On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 2:14:59 PM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> carl eto wrote:
>
> > "Not at all. GPS (there is only one, _the_ GPS) *is* based on timekeeping,
> > and comparing time differences, NOT intensity differences,
> Once again: Learn to post.
>
> [> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: ]
> >> Not at all. GPS (there is only one, _the_ GPS) *is* based on timekeeping,
> >> and comparing time differences, NOT intensity differences,
> >
> > This is patently incorrect since electrons of the GPS are propagating at
> > the maximum velocity of 10^6 m/s cannot be used to measure a time
> > difference of an radio signals that are propagating at the velocity of
> > light.
> GPS is NOT based on the propagation of electrons, and the maximum _speed_
> (NOT: velocity) of electrons is NOT 10⁶ m/s.
> > Have you ever heard of a measurement uncertainty? Example, you
> > cannot see an electron of a atom using an optical microscope.
> Non sequitur.
>
>
> PointedEars
> --
> “Nature uses only the longest threads to weave her patterns
> so that each small piece of her fabric reveals the organization
> of the entire tapestry.”
> —Richard Feynman, theoretical physicist, “Messenger Lecture” 1 (1964)

Is the velocity of light fast than the velocity of electrons within the GPS?

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 5:09:13 PM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> dlzc wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars'
> > Lahn wrote:
> >> dlzc wrote:
> >> > Dear Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
> >>
> >> This is a newsgroup, not e-mail. We do not write letter-like messages to
> >> each other here, we write as if in a public discussion where there is an
> >> audience.
> >
> > Let each man lay his dead according to his own fashion. I understand that
> > you have nothing further to say TO ME on this topic.
> No, you are so self-absorbed that you willfully ignore the facts that are
> PRESENTED TO YOU on this topic. Hopeless.
>
>
> PointedEars
> --
> Q: Where are offenders sentenced for light crimes?
> A: To a prism.
>
> (from: WolframAlpha)

Electromagnetic gravitational waves (LIGO)

carl eto wrote:

> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> carl eto wrote:
>> [> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: ]
>> >> Not at all. GPS (there is only one, _the_ GPS) *is* based on
>> >> timekeeping, and comparing time differences, NOT intensity
>> >> differences,
>> >
>> > This is patently incorrect since electrons of the GPS are propagating
>> > at the maximum velocity of 10^6 m/s cannot be used to measure a time
>> > difference of an radio signals that are propagating at the velocity of
>> > light.
>>
>> GPS is NOT based on the propagation of electrons, and the maximum _speed_
>> (NOT: velocity) of electrons is NOT 10⁶ m/s.
>>
>> > Have you ever heard of a measurement uncertainty? Example, you
>> > cannot see an electron of a atom using an optical microscope.
>>
>> Non sequitur.
>
> Is the velocity of light fast than the velocity of electrons within the
> GPS?

Assuming that you mean “faster”: Which electrons?

PointedEars
--
Q: Who's on the case when the electricity goes out?
A: Sherlock Ohms.

(from: WolframAlpha)

carl eto wrote:

> Electromagnetic gravitational waves (LIGO)

Gravitational waves are NOT electromagnetic waves, as already told you.

PointedEars
--
Q: Who's on the case when the electricity goes out?
A: Sherlock Ohms.

(from: WolframAlpha)

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 9:51:46 AM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> carl eto wrote:
>
> > Electromagnetic gravitational waves (LIGO)
>
> Gravitational waves are NOT electromagnetic waves, as already told you.
> PointedEars
> --
> Q: Who's on the case when the electricity goes out?
> A: Sherlock Ohms.
>
> (from: WolframAlpha)

According to Einstein and LIGO Abbott they are.

"I have shown how to obtain field equations of gravitation that comply with the postulate of general relativity" (Einstein, p. 117).

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 12:51:46 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> carl eto wrote:

You do realize that you responded to a known troll.
Instead of stroking it, reported as spam.

Dear tjrob137:

On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 3:10:57 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote:
> On 10/5/21 2:33 PM, dlzc wrote:
> > The Higgs boson does no longer couple Standard particles
> > to the Higgs field (the boson found was too energetic /
> > massive, could not fit the theory).
>
> I have no idea where you got that, and suspect you just made it up.
> It is WRONG.
....
> > Experiment has shown a 1:1 correspondence between the
> > Higgs field and spacetime.
>
> NONSENSE! This you clearly just made up (or believed
> someone else who just made it up).

Boy was I wrong about when that lecture occurred:
https://news.asu.edu/content/beyond-lecture-features-theoretical-physicist-popular-author-lisa-randall

I am not wrong about she said in the lecture.

David A. Smith

According to Einstein and LIGO Abbott gravitational waves are electromagnetic waves. "I have shown how to obtain field equations of gravitation that comply with the postulate of general relativity" (Einstein, p. 117).

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 11:43:05 AM UTC-7, rotchm wrote:

Hey rotchm do you believe that global warming is caused by humans?

carl eto wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 9:51:46 AM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars'
> Lahn wrote:
>> carl eto wrote:
>> > Electromagnetic gravitational waves (LIGO)
>>
>> Gravitational waves are NOT electromagnetic waves, as already told you.
>> PointedEars
>
> According to Einstein and LIGO Abbott they are.

No. I can only hope that you are confusing the measuring method (which is
electromagnetic: laser interferometry) with the waves themselves (which are
NOT electromagnetic, but oscillations in SPACETIME). And that your denial
is not because of malice.

<https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/page/recommended-reading>
> "I have shown how to obtain field equations of gravitation that comply
> with the postulate of general relativity" (Einstein, p. 117).

A quote that is insufficiently referenced (“Einstein, p. 117”, really?
Do you even know how MANY papers he wrote?) and likely ripped out of its
context.

<https://einsteinpapers.press.princeton.edu/>

PointedEars
--
Q: What happens when electrons lose their energy?
A: They get Bohr'ed.

(from: WolframAlpha)

On Thursday, 14 October 2021 at 01:27:50 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> A quote that is insufficiently referenced (“Einstein, p. 117”, really?
> Do you even know how MANY papers he wrote?) and likely ripped out of its
> context.

No matter how many papers poor idiot wrote, the clocks
of GPS keep measuring t'=t, just like all serious clocks
always did.

dlzc wrote:

> Dear tjrob137:
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 3:10:57 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote:
>> NONSENSE! This you clearly just made up (or believed someone else who
>> just made it up).
>
> Boy was I wrong about when that lecture occurred:
> https://news.asu.edu/content/beyond-lecture-features-theoretical-
physicist-popular-author-lisa-randall
>
> I am not wrong about she said in the lecture.

great, now tell that mass murderer fraudci, that questioning science IS
science.

but I got another idea, that all these overpaid *public_servants* are old
like shit, so they wouldn't care less. What they do "vaccinating" the
world is testing random mRNA sequences on humans, one of which should
give *eternal_life*, reverse aging, etc. It somehow starting to make
sense.

dlzc wrote:

>> This is a newsgroup, not e-mail. We do not write letter-like messages
>> to each other here, we write as if in a public discussion where there
>> is an audience.
>
> Let each man lay his dead according to his own fashion. I understand
> that you have nothing further to say TO ME on this topic.

that Hillman and Bilge had a stupid way to look at gravity. Hillman went
so far saying he is an AI machine.

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 4:27:50 PM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> carl eto wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 9:51:46 AM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars'
> > Lahn wrote:
> >> carl eto wrote:
> >> > Electromagnetic gravitational waves (LIGO)
> >>
> >> Gravitational waves are NOT electromagnetic waves, as already told you..
> >> PointedEars
> >
> > According to Einstein and LIGO Abbott they are.
> No. I can only hope that you are confusing the measuring method (which is
> electromagnetic: laser interferometry) with the waves themselves (which are
> NOT electromagnetic, but oscillations in SPACETIME). And that your denial
> is not because of malice.
>
> PointedEars

"I have shown how to obtain field equations of gravitation that comply with the postulate of general relativity" (Einstein, p. 117).

"dh/dt + rot e = 0...............................................76

div h = 0...........................................................77

rot h - de'/dt = i................................................78

div e' = p"........................................................79

(Einstein5, § 20). Einstein states that he has "shown how to obtain field equations of gravitation" then presents Maxwell equations (equ 76-79). Therefore, it is absolutely CLEAR that GR is based on electromagnetic gravitational waves.

carl eto wrote:

> "I have shown how to obtain field equations of gravitation that comply
> with the postulate of general relativity" (Einstein, p. 117).
>
> "dh/dt + rot e = 0...............................................76
>
> div h = 0...........................................................77
>
> rot h - de'/dt = i................................................78
>
> div e' = p"........................................................79
>
> (Einstein5, § 20). Einstein states that he has "shown how to obtain field
> equations of gravitation" then presents Maxwell equations (equ 76-79).
> Therefore, it is absolutely CLEAR that GR is based on electromagnetic
> gravitational waves.

What is absolutely clear now is that

1. You do not know what you are talking about.
2. You cannot cite evidence to back up your outlandish claims.
3. You ignore careful refutations of your claims.

Therefore, until that changes, it is pointless to continue discussing with
you.

PointedEars
--
A neutron walks into a bar and inquires how much a drink costs.
The bartender replies, "For you? No charge."

(from: WolframAlpha)

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
> carl eto wrote:
>
>> "I have shown how to obtain field equations of gravitation that comply
>> with the postulate of general relativity" (Einstein, p. 117).
>>
>> "dh/dt + rot e = 0...............................................76
>>
>> div h = 0...........................................................77
>>
>> rot h - de'/dt = i................................................78
>>
>> div e' = p"........................................................79
>>
>> (Einstein5, § 20). Einstein states that he has "shown how to obtain field
>> equations of gravitation" then presents Maxwell equations (equ 76-79).
>> Therefore, it is absolutely CLEAR that GR is based on electromagnetic
>> gravitational waves.
>
> What is absolutely clear now is that
>
> 1. You do not know what you are talking about.
> 2. You cannot cite evidence to back up your outlandish claims.
> 3. You ignore careful refutations of your claims.
>
> Therefore, until that changes, it is pointless to continue discussing with
> you.
>
>
> PointedEars

This may have been apparent to you on the side, but this nym belongs to a
severely mentally ill man who, like a number of babbling loons who frequent
this group, like to splutter word salad with physics croutons liberally
sprinkled in, mostly with the sentiment that it’s all a scam, that we could
never have landed on the moon, that X-rays are fictions, and that the
government/military/Illuminati are all bent on mind control of the
sheep-people.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 11:55:00 AM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> carl eto wrote:
>
> > "I have shown how to obtain field equations of gravitation that comply
> > with the postulate of general relativity" (Einstein, p. 117).
> >
> > "dh/dt + rot e = 0...............................................76
> >
> > div h = 0...........................................................77
> >
> > rot h - de'/dt = i................................................78
> >
> > div e' = p"........................................................79
> >
> > (Einstein5, § 20). Einstein states that he has "shown how to obtain field
> > equations of gravitation" then presents Maxwell equations (equ 76-79).
> > Therefore, it is absolutely CLEAR that GR is based on electromagnetic
> > gravitational waves.
> What is absolutely clear now is that
>
> 1. You do not know what you are talking about.
> 2. You cannot cite evidence to back up your outlandish claims.
> 3. You ignore careful refutations of your claims.
>
> Therefore, until that changes, it is pointless to continue discussing with
> you.
>
>
> PointedEars
> --
> A neutron walks into a bar and inquires how much a drink costs.
> The bartender replies, "For you? No charge."
>
> (from: WolframAlpha)

Really, what does this mean?

"I have shown how to obtain field equations of gravitation"

Einstein GR is using Maxwell equations that depict electromagnetic waves.

dlzc wrote:

> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 3:10:57 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote:
>> On 10/5/21 2:33 PM, dlzc wrote:
>> > The Higgs boson does no longer couple Standard particles
>> > to the Higgs field (the boson found was too energetic /
>> > massive, could not fit the theory).
>>
>> I have no idea where you got that, and suspect you just made it up.
>> It is WRONG.
> ...
>> > Experiment has shown a 1:1 correspondence between the
>> > Higgs field and spacetime.
>>
>> NONSENSE! This you clearly just made up (or believed
>> someone else who just made it up).
>
> Boy was I wrong about when that lecture occurred:
> https://news.asu.edu/content/beyond-lecture-features-theoretical-physicist-popular-author-lisa-randall
>
> I am not wrong about she said in the lecture.

Which, do you think, is more likely: That a physicist said complete nonsense
about the Higgs boson/field; or that you, obviously a layperson in the
subject matter, misremember or completely misunderstood her?

PointedEars
--
Q: What did the nuclear physicist order for lunch?
A: Fission chips.

(from: WolframAlpha)

On October 13, dlzc wrote:
>>> Experiment has shown a 1:1 correspondence between the
>>> Higgs field and spacetime.

I don't know how to parse that.
Can you explain what it means?
> Boy was I wrong about when that lecture occurred:
> https://news.asu.edu/content/beyond-lecture-features-theoretical-physicist-popular-author-lisa-randall
> I am not wrong about she said in the lecture.

Did you ever play the party game of telephone?

--
Rich