On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 4:38:34 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/29/2024 4:49 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 13:38:53 -0800 (PST), Lou Holtman
> > <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 10:24:54?PM UTC+1, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> >>
> >>> Any significant differences in number of deaths related to being
> >>> vaccinated are not political issues.
> >>
> >> On the other hand even getting flat tires is turned into a political issue.
> >>
> >> Lou
> >
> > Arguing politics makes as much sense as trying to herd cats.
>
> I may or may not disagree, depending on your meaning of
> 'argument'.
>
> Discussing politics, from classical Greece until this
> evening, has a long and rich history of elucidation,
> persuasion, synthesis, and problem solving in its best form.
>
> Invective is something else again.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> a...@yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
I suppose I am guilty of invective but the idiotic noises that Liebermann makes would be laughed out of any sane group. Exactly why is he trying so hard to be an expert on things he knows nothing about? I say that the water behind a dam has been replaced with loose mud and the horses ass says that I am wrong! I go past there once or twice a week and he doesn't even know where it is and he is telling us all about it and showing pictures from four years ago? I show a sign that says "Danger - Do Not Enter Deep Mud". and he doesn't respond because his eyes are so bad that he cannot read it. But he can again show a pond 1/4th a mile away from the dam that was taken before the rain storm. Why would he ARGUE about so much rain that it is falling off edge of the road in a stream so rapid that it digging trenches along the outside edge of the road? This is NOT unique to Cull Canyon and occurred right up near his own house! What is this crap about the sandblaster not being able to recognize a rusted out tube that had been patched over? The man is unstable.

On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 12:49:33 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>I suppose I am guilty of invective

I can tolerate your invective words. It's you general lack of logic
and knowledge that bothers me.

>I say that the water behind a dam has been replaced with loose
>mud and the horses ass says that I am wrong!

Show me a photo of the sign and the mud hole and I might believe you.

>I go past there once or twice a week and he doesn't even know
>where it is and he is telling us all about it and showing pictures
>from four years ago?

Since you go past the mud hole and sign every other day, it should be
quite easy for you to take a few photos and post them as proof. Also,
the GPS location would be nice so I could look at the area using
Google Earth or other satellite imaging program.

As for showing a 4 year old picture, it's really difficult for me to
imagine how I could "show" a picture when I don't have the mud hole or
sign location.

>I show a sign that says "Danger - Do Not Enter Deep Mud".

You've shown nothing.

>and he doesn't respond because his eyes are so bad that he
>cannot read it.

Prior to my recent cataract surgery, that MIGHT have been a problem. I
did have difficulty reading the computer display which required some
magnification and tended to produce eye fatigue after about 15
minutes. However, that's all gone now that both eyes are repaired. I
can see without glasses from about 4ft to infinity and close up with
dollar store quality reading glasses (+2.00 diopter). I'm not sure
why you believe my vision would have been a problem reading the sign,
when I haven't I haven't driven to the unspecified location of the
sign. Viewing a photo online would have works just fine.

>But he can again show a pond 1/4th a mile away from the dam that
>was taken before the rain storm.

I mentioned a private pond adjacent to a nice looking home and posted
a link to Google Earth. I asked you if this was the mud hole. You
never replied. If you want me to find the link, please ask.

>Why would he ARGUE about so much rain that it is falling off
>edge of the road in a stream so rapid that it digging trenches
>along the outside edge of the road?

Because your claims about the dangerous mud hole and mythical signs
were late summer when it was not raining.

>This is NOT unique to Cull Canyon and occurred right up near
>his own house!

My house? I don't live anywhere near Cull Canyon and your dangerous
mud hole.

>What is this crap about the sandblaster not being able to recognize a
>rusted out tube that had been patched over?

Nice change of topic. You've wasted enough of my time.

>The man is unstable.

I think otherwise. Take photos and provide a GPS location. If you
can't or won't, then you're lying.

Incidentally, please take a photo of the front of the sign, not the
back, like you did with the photos of your Ridley Helium showing the
left side of the bicycle, thus hiding the drive train, your repairs
and probably your butchery.
<https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1013539579790791&set=pb.100034042758783.-2207520000&type=3>
<https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1013539423124140&set=pb.100034042758783.-2207520000&type=3>

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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Wed Jan 31 20:42:29 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 12:49:33 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I suppose I am guilty of invective
>
> I can tolerate your invective words. It's you general lack of logic
> and knowledge that bothers me.
>
> >I say that the water behind a dam has been replaced with loose
> >mud and the horses ass says that I am wrong!
>
> Show me a photo of the sign and the mud hole and I might believe you.
>
> >I go past there once or twice a week and he doesn't even know
> >where it is and he is telling us all about it and showing pictures
> >from four years ago?
>
> Since you go past the mud hole and sign every other day, it should be
> quite easy for you to take a few photos and post them as proof. Also,
> the GPS location would be nice so I could look at the area using
> Google Earth or other satellite imaging program.
>
> As for showing a 4 year old picture, it's really difficult for me to
> imagine how I could "show" a picture when I don't have the mud hole or
> sign location.
>
> >I show a sign that says "Danger - Do Not Enter Deep Mud".
>
> You've shown nothing.
>
> >and he doesn't respond because his eyes are so bad that he
> >cannot read it.
>
> Prior to my recent cataract surgery, that MIGHT have been a problem. I
> did have difficulty reading the computer display which required some
> magnification and tended to produce eye fatigue after about 15
> minutes. However, that's all gone now that both eyes are repaired. I
> can see without glasses from about 4ft to infinity and close up with
> dollar store quality reading glasses (+2.00 diopter). I'm not sure
> why you believe my vision would have been a problem reading the sign,
> when I haven't I haven't driven to the unspecified location of the
> sign. Viewing a photo online would have works just fine.
>
> >But he can again show a pond 1/4th a mile away from the dam that
> >was taken before the rain storm.
>
> I mentioned a private pond adjacent to a nice looking home and posted
> a link to Google Earth. I asked you if this was the mud hole. You
> never replied. If you want me to find the link, please ask.
>
> >Why would he ARGUE about so much rain that it is falling off
> >edge of the road in a stream so rapid that it digging trenches
> >along the outside edge of the road?
>
> Because your claims about the dangerous mud hole and mythical signs
> were late summer when it was not raining.
>
> >This is NOT unique to Cull Canyon and occurred right up near
> >his own house!
>
> My house? I don't live anywhere near Cull Canyon and your dangerous
> mud hole.
>
> >What is this crap about the sandblaster not being able to recognize a
> >rusted out tube that had been patched over?
>
> Nice change of topic. You've wasted enough of my time.
>
> >The man is unstable.
>
> I think otherwise. Take photos and provide a GPS location. If you
> can't or won't, then you're lying.
>
> Incidentally, please take a photo of the front of the sign, not the
> back, like you did with the photos of your Ridley Helium showing the
> left side of the bicycle, thus hiding the drive train, your repairs
> and probably your butchery.
> <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1013539579790791&set=pb.100034042758783.-2207520000&type=3>
> <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1013539423124140&set=pb.100034042758783.-2207520000&type=3>
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Liebermann,you're a dope. With this new newsreader I haven't yet figured out how to put you in a killfile but I will because you arew nothing more tht black noise taking up valuable space. You have shown everyone here how you are willing to talk as a real expert on things you haven't even a passing accointnce with. You are a laughing stock.