On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 20:13:41 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>A Tesla costs about the same as a gas car.

Baloney. A new Tesla vehicle initially costs more than and equivalent
ICE vehicle. Comparisons of cost of ownership are highly dependent on
federal subsidies and miles driven per year.

>So by all means get one.

I suggested that you buy an EV to test your allegations that they tend
to burn or explode. If you don't have personal experience with a
burning or exploding EV, you are not qualified to have an opinion on
the matter.

>Or believe that idiot Liebermann who has never had two pennies to
>rub together because he doesn't know anything about anything, but
>can convince you otherwise?

I think I understand. You believe that to be an authority on any
topic required a large bank or investment account. Not quite a
plutocracy, but close. How much money would you pay to announce that
you are correct?

>I got wealthy by knowing what I'm doing.

You got wealthy posting wrong information in RBT? Who is paying you
to do that?

>Flunky and Liebermann are two peas in a pod. Both of them are in
>debt up to their eyebrows and willing to lie about it.

I have zero debt and no loans. My major expenses (house, car) are all
free of debt. I have savings to the tune of 5 figures. So, how is it
that you know my financial situation? Did you mysterious RBT reader,
who sends you warnings that someone mentioned your name, provide you
with the information?

>Slocomb is another one of them. Krygowski at least got a passing
>education even if he couldn't use it. Scharf? He is technician only
>grade material. Does this sound like I'm picking on them?

Yes, it does. I've warned you repeatedly that denouncing your critics
does not make you a better person, more competent, bestow you with the
title of engineer, designer, etc. You stand on your own merits, which
are seriously lacking.

>They started it and then couldn't take the truth.

Started what? Tom, you are the one who is posting erroneous
information and insulting your audience. All you have to do is stop
lying and insulting, and your critics will probably switch to doing
something more productive.

(Some random lies deleted)

>I was nothing more than a competent engineer that knew how to handle my money because I was born into a poor household. I worked with many remarkable people and at least earned their respect simply by doing a competent job. Compare that with the petty jealously of these five and their clearly fake claims. I did work for two of the most prestigious research organizations in the world. I did important work for the Army and what was probably important at the time for NASA. I designed and programmed so many medical instruments that you can't even go into an emergency hospital without them using one or a later improvement of them on you.

That sounds quite impressive. Now, all you need to do is demonstrate
that you have done some engineering, can deal with technical problems,
and show some proof of competence. So far, I haven't seen anything
better then lies and fabrications. I've mentioned the easy way to
prove that you made large amounts of money working for various
companies and organizations. Send me (or someone we both can trust)
your Social Security Statement:
<https://www.ssa.gov/help/global_statement7004.html>
<https://www.ssa.gov/myaccount/statement.html>
which should show your annual taxable earnings since 1965.

>I'm cherry picking?

Nope. You're picking sour lemons and pushing animal droppings.

I find it very odd that your search for fame, fortune, and acclaim for
your past accomplishments, are based on your audience accepting your
lies as truth.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 1:23:44 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 4:13:44 AM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 3:09:30 PM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
> > > John B. <sloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:42:45 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:11:15 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > > >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 3:46:46?AM UTC-8, Rolf Mantel wrote:
> > > >>>> Am 23.01.2024 um 19:58 schrieb Jeff Liebermann:
> > > >>>>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 12:16:13 GMT, Roger Merriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> In the uk the car that is hitting the headlines is the Land Rover, which
> > > >>>>>> has had to do in house insurance as the premiums are huge, if they will
> > > >>>>>> even insure it anyway.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Tesla I believe does have slightly higher premiums for a number of reasons
> > > >>>>>> such as you said.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Roger Merriman
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Looks like it's been a problem in the UK for at least a few months:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> (Sept 30, 2023)
> > > >>>>> "'The quotes were £5,000 or more’: electric vehicle owners face
> > > >>>>> soaring insurance costs"
> > > >>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/30/the-quotes-were-5000-or-more-electric-vehicle-owners-face-soaring-insurance-costs>
> > > >>
> > > >>>> As I said: the headlines talk of Electric Vehicles, the small print
> > > >>>> complains about Tesla.
> > > >>>> All Tesla are EV but not all EV are Tesla.
> > > >>
> > > >>> Rolf,l you have your choice of buying batteries from China or batteries
> > > >>> from Tesla's Nevada plant. Liebermann with all of the idiot belief of a
> > > >>> fool believes that the Chinese batteries are safe because he doesn't
> > > >>> get any reports of Chinese batteries exploding. When you don't look, you don't find.
> > > >>> https://e-vehicleinfo.com/global/chinas-electric-explosions-7-electric-vehicles-catch-fire-each-day/
> > > >>
> > > >> That might be useful information, if I lived in China. At best, your
> > > >> amazing assumptions is a half or 1/4th truth. However, you're correct
> > > >> that I don't receive daily reports of battery explosions in China. Try
> > > >> the videos below.
> > > >>
> > > > But the truth is that China has some 50% of all the electric cars on
> > > > the world's roads, a total of 13.8 million. Which makes 7 a day some
> > > > look just a bit less horrifying. Some 0.0185 percent annually.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > It’s the biggest car market in the world, and going EV has given local
> > > companies a start which clearly a benefit.
> > >
> > > Let alone the brands that have been bought such as MG or Volvo/polestar and
> > > so on.
> > >
> > > Roger Merriman
> > A Tesla costs about the same as a gas car. So by all means get one. Or believe that idiot Liebermann who has never had two pennies to rub together because he doesn't know anything about anything, but can convince you otherwise?
> >
> > I got wealthy by knowing what I'm doing. Flunky and Liebermann are two peas in a pod. Both of them are in debt up to their eyebrows and willing to lie about it. Slocomb is another one of them. Krygowski at least got a passing education even if he couldn't use it. Scharf? He is technician only grade material. Does this sound like I'm picking on them?
> >
> > They started it and then couldn't take the truth. Remember that Slocomb told us that he was a qualified machinist, whatever that is? That is why the Air Force, always short on skilled personnel put him in a dead end job and retired him 2 grades below normal. Does that sound qualified at anything? When I asked Flunky a short simple C program you didn't see Scharf speaking up about that did you? I have said before that an electronics engineer cannot design proper digital circuits without knowing how to program. Neither Scharf or Flunky had the slightest idea what that program meant. For Christ's sake - ALL IT DID WAS FLASH A LIGHT! That is proof that neither is what they claim to be. Perhaps Flunky has a degree but he learned nothing and is nothing more than a paperwork wonk. Liebermann might have learned how to repair radios but I was repairing tube radios at 16. Remember the Vietnam airlift that Slocomb claims lasted two days. Think about that. The war ended in 1973 with the Paris Peace Accords and the last military personnel didn't leave until half way through 1975. ("The United States officially ended its involvement in the war with the signing of the Paris Peace Accords by President Nixon in 1973, with the last American personnel leaving Vietnam during the Fall of Saigon in April 1975")
> >
> > I was nothing more than a competent engineer that knew how to handle my money because I was born into a poor household. I worked with many remarkable people and at least earned their respect simply by doing a competent job. Compare that with the petty jealously of these five and their clearly fake claims. I did work for two of the most prestigious research organizations in the world. I did important work for the Army and what was probably important at the time for NASA. I designed and programmed so many medical instruments that you can't even go into an emergency hospital without them using one or a later improvement of them on you.
> >
> > I'm cherry picking?
> >
> Those who can do, do. Those who can't do, teach or try to control those who can. It was ever thus.-- Andre Jute
> >
Well, I don't begrudge Krygowski spending his life teaching because he couldn't take the pressures of actual engineering. But I think that he should realize that is what happened and stop trying to make it seem like a biblical calling.

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 9:53:34 AM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
> Frank Krygowski <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On 1/24/2024 11:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>
> >> I was nothing more than a competent engineer ...
> >
> > You weren't an engineer, Tom.
> >
> As his post wasn’t anything more than bile I wasn’t going to reply as well
> if he can’t be vaguely civil…
>
> Roger Merriman

Bile? Roger all you have to do is read the responses to see bile. Frank wishes to pretend that I wasn't an engineer despite the title and the pay at not one or two but very many companies. He wishes to proscribe a paper ceiling when he himself could not actually hold a real engineering job. His job was a necessary one but it was NOT an engineering position. In fact, it would have been done by virtually anyone with any sort of engineering degree. It was repeating to a classroom what the textbook said.

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 07:22:37 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 11:13:44?PM UTC-5, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 3:09:30?PM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> > John B. <sloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:42:45 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:11:15 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> > >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 3:46:46?AM UTC-8, Rolf Mantel wrote:
>> > >>>> Am 23.01.2024 um 19:58 schrieb Jeff Liebermann:
>> > >>>>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 12:16:13 GMT, Roger Merriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>> > >>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> In the uk the car that is hitting the headlines is the Land Rover, which
>> > >>>>>> has had to do in house insurance as the premiums are huge, if they will
>> > >>>>>> even insure it anyway.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Tesla I believe does have slightly higher premiums for a number of reasons
>> > >>>>>> such as you said.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Roger Merriman
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Looks like it's been a problem in the UK for at least a few months:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> (Sept 30, 2023)
>> > >>>>> "'The quotes were £5,000 or more’: electric vehicle owners face
>> > >>>>> soaring insurance costs"
>> > >>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/30/the-quotes-were-5000-or-more-electric-vehicle-owners-face-soaring-insurance-costs>
>> > >>
>> > >>>> As I said: the headlines talk of Electric Vehicles, the small print
>> > >>>> complains about Tesla.
>> > >>>> All Tesla are EV but not all EV are Tesla.
>> > >>
>> > >>> Rolf,l you have your choice of buying batteries from China or batteries
>> > >>> from Tesla's Nevada plant. Liebermann with all of the idiot belief of a
>> > >>> fool believes that the Chinese batteries are safe because he doesn't
>> > >>> get any reports of Chinese batteries exploding. When you don't look, you don't find.
>> > >>> https://e-vehicleinfo.com/global/chinas-electric-explosions-7-electric-vehicles-catch-fire-each-day/
>> > >>
>> > >> That might be useful information, if I lived in China. At best, your
>> > >> amazing assumptions is a half or 1/4th truth. However, you're correct
>> > >> that I don't receive daily reports of battery explosions in China. Try
>> > >> the videos below.
>> > >>
>> > > But the truth is that China has some 50% of all the electric cars on
>> > > the world's roads, a total of 13.8 million. Which makes 7 a day some
>> > > look just a bit less horrifying. Some 0.0185 percent annually.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > It’s the biggest car market in the world, and going EV has given local
>> > companies a start which clearly a benefit.
>> >
>> > Let alone the brands that have been bought such as MG or Volvo/polestar and
>> > so on.
>> >
>> > Roger Merriman
>> A Tesla costs about the same as a gas car. So by all means get one. Or believe that idiot Liebermann who has never had two pennies to rub together because he doesn't know anything about anything, but can convince you otherwise?
>>
>> I got wealthy by knowing what I'm doing. Flunky and Liebermann are two peas in a pod. Both of them are in debt up to their eyebrows and willing to lie about it. Slocomb is another one of them. Krygowski at least got a passing education even if he couldn't use it. Scharf? He is technician only grade material. Does this sound like I'm picking on them?
>>
>> They started it and then couldn't take the truth. Remember that Slocomb told us that he was a qualified machinist, whatever that is? That is why the Air Force, always short on skilled personnel put him in a dead end job and retired him 2 grades below normal. Does that sound qualified at anything? When I asked Flunky a short simple C program you didn't see Scharf speaking up about that did you? I have said before that an electronics engineer cannot design proper digital circuits without knowing how to program. Neither Scharf or Flunky had the slightest idea what that program meant. For Christ's sake - ALL IT DID WAS FLASH A LIGHT! That is proof that neither is what they claim to be. Perhaps Flunky has a degree but he learned nothing and is nothing more than a paperwork wonk. Liebermann might have learned how to repair radios but I was repairing tube radios at 16. Remember the Vietnam airlift that Slocomb claims lasted two days. Think about that. The war ended in 1973 with the Paris
>Peace Accords and the last military personnel didn't leave until half way through 1975. ("The United States officially ended its involvement in the war with the signing of the Paris Peace Accords by President Nixon in 1973, with the last American personnel leaving Vietnam during the Fall of Saigon in April 1975")

Actually the last U.S. combat troops t0 leave Vietnam were on March
29, 1973, the last American combat soldier, Master Sgt. Max Beilke,
left Vietnam, completing the American military withdrawal. President
Richard Nixon had announced on January 23, 1973 that the United States
and North Vietnam had signed an agreement to end the

>> I was nothing more than a competent engineer that knew how to handle my money because I was born into a poor household. I worked with many remarkable people and at least earned their respect simply by doing a competent job. Compare that with the petty jealously of these five and their clearly fake claims. I did work for two of the most prestigious research organizations in the world. I did important work for the Army and what was probably important at the time for NASA. I designed and programmed so many medical instruments that you can't even go into an emergency hospital without them using one or a later improvement of them on you.

Of course you are rich. After all you only bitch about the cost of
groceries, you live in a cheap house in a lousy neighborhood and drive
a old junk car and worry about your "new" wife still being able to get
her Social Security. Certainly all the marks of a millionaire!
>> I'm cherry picking?
>
>No, you're lying. Everything you've written above is demonstrably false. It's been proven probably thousands of times since you started polluting this forum nearly 30 years ago. Your legacy here will be worse than that of the shitstain.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 1/25/2024 3:28 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> Frank wishes to pretend that I wasn't an engineer despite the title and the pay at not one or two but very many companies.

Like others here, I'm basing my opinion on your posted statements, your
astonishingly haphazard career and your lack of any other proof of
actual engineering work.

> He wishes to proscribe a paper ceiling when he himself could not actually hold a real engineering job. His job was a necessary one but it was NOT an engineering position. In fact, it would have been done by virtually anyone with any sort of engineering degree. It was repeating to a classroom what the textbook said.

Tom, you are completely, totally, 100% ignorant of what's involved in
teaching engineering.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 12:28:43 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>It was repeating to a classroom what the textbook said.

Do you have any first hand experience attending or teaching in a
college classroom? If not, you're not entitled to an opinion on the
operation of a classroom or textbooks. It's the same logic as you
declaring that only current or former EV owners are allowed to comment
on EV issues.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 19:03:24 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 12:28:43 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>It was repeating to a classroom what the textbook said.
>
>Do you have any first hand experience attending or teaching in a
>college classroom? If not, you're not entitled to an opinion on the
>operation of a classroom or textbooks. It's the same logic as you
>declaring that only current or former EV owners are allowed to comment
>on EV issues.

But Jeff, when did entitlement, knowledge, commonsense, or any other
trivial matter, ever impose on Tommy's right to make a fool out of
himself?
--
Cheers,

John B.

rOn Thu, 25 Jan 2024 12:28:43 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 9:53:34?AM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> Frank Krygowski <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> > On 1/24/2024 11:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I was nothing more than a competent engineer ...
>> >
>> > You weren't an engineer, Tom.
>> >
>> As his post wasn’t anything more than bile I wasn’t going to reply as well
>> if he can’t be vaguely civil…
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
>Bile? Roger all you have to do is read the responses
to see bile. Frank wishes to pretend that I wasn't an engineer
despite the title and the pay at not one or two but very many
companies. He wishes to proscribe a paper ceiling when he himself
could not actually hold a real engineering job. His job was a
necessary one but it was NOT an engineering position. In fact, it
would have been done by virtually anyone with any sort of engineering
degree. It was repeating to a classroom what the textbook said.

Ah but Tommy, Frank has provided proof that he actually worked mat the
Collage, or to be a bit more detailed, the Collage has provided proof
that Frank worked there.

While you have provided a list of companies that you say you worked
for, which seem very doubtful as you actually lie in some cases, don't
know to spell the name of the company you say you worked for and even
list two jobs that you state that you worked for at the same time.

(Before you answer remember that Jeff has made a complete study of
your resume and posted the short comings for all the world to see)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 13:16:09 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:

>(Before you answer remember that Jeff has made a complete study of
>your resume and posted the short comings for all the world to see)

Well, not detailed. Initially, there were some rather obvious
overlaps in timing. There were several places where Tom was working
for two companies at the same time:
(Feb 8, 2021)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/_Y1MbXuzvNo/m/4TLVG7fkAQAJ>

Most of those were eventually fixed by Tom. This was from when I was
trying to help Tom fix his resume so that he could get a job. That
was unlikely at his age, but I do try to be helpful when possible.

He also provide a "corrected" list to help me correct the resume
(Feb 6, 2021)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/_Y1MbXuzvNo/m/o6omSxsfAgAJ>
in which he added some rather dubious claims to have worked for
Analog, LLNL, LBL and NASA.
(Feb 9, 2021)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/_Y1MbXuzvNo/m/JfBaTJQ9AQAJ>
Later, he added ETEC and maybe a few other companies.

At the time, I was rather busy. I asked Tom if I could finish a few
things before starting on his resume. Tom lost his temper and thanked
me for helping using his trademark insults and lies. Fortunately, I
hadn't wasted much time beyond the above comments, which gave me a
good excuse to suggest he find someone else to make the corrections.
It's been downhill ever since.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558