https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/251115/turban-style-thickness-affects-head-injury/#:~:text=They%20then%20compared%20their%20findings,helmets%20and%20with%20bare%20heads.&text=They%20found%20that%20turbans%20greatly,the%20risk%20of%20head%20injury.

Would unsurprisingly seem that Turbans and I guess other head coverings can
potentially reduce some risks.

Personally would seem note the lack of protection a helmet brings both
individually and population wise, but uk is fairly pragmatic ie no laws to
enforce one to do so.

Roger Merriman

On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 4:40:29 AM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
> https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/251115/turban-style-thickness-affects-head-injury/#:~:text=They%20then%20compared%20their%20findings,helmets%20and%20with%20bare%20heads.&text=They%20found%20that%20turbans%20greatly,the%20risk%20of%20head%20injury.
>
>
> Would unsurprisingly seem that Turbans and I guess other head coverings can
> potentially reduce some risks.
>
> Personally would seem note the lack of protection a helmet brings both
> individually and population wise, but uk is fairly pragmatic ie no laws to
> enforce one to do so.
>
> Roger Merriman
They seem to have made quite and effort to avoid making full tests of the Wavecell helmet that Trek makes under their Bontrager brand name. While it is true that Turbans put a lot of cloth and hence soft cushioning around the head, It compresses too much too fast.

On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 07:38:04 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 4:40:29?AM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/251115/turban-style-thickness-affects-head-injury/#:~:text=They%20then%20compared%20their%20findings,helmets%20and%20with%20bare%20heads.&text=They%20found%20that%20turbans%20greatly,the%20risk%20of%20head%20injury.
>>
>>
>> Would unsurprisingly seem that Turbans and I guess other head coverings can
>> potentially reduce some risks.
>>
>> Personally would seem note the lack of protection a helmet brings both
>> individually and population wise, but uk is fairly pragmatic ie no laws to
>> enforce one to do so.
>>
>> Roger Merriman

>They seem to have made quite and effort to avoid making full tests of the Wavecell helmet that Trek makes under their Bontrager brand name. While it is true that Turbans put a lot of cloth and hence soft cushioning around the head, It compresses too much too fast.

No problem. Just use bubble wrap instead of cloth:
<https://www.saatchiart.com/art/Photography-Karen-in-Bubblewrap/261306/3494618/view>

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On 2/2/2024 12:39 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 07:38:04 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 4:40:29?AM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>> https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/251115/turban-style-thickness-affects-head-injury/#:~:text=They%20then%20compared%20their%20findings,helmets%20and%20with%20bare%20heads.&text=They%20found%20that%20turbans%20greatly,the%20risk%20of%20head%20injury.
>>>
>>>
>>> Would unsurprisingly seem that Turbans and I guess other head coverings can
>>> potentially reduce some risks.
>>>
>>> Personally would seem note the lack of protection a helmet brings both
>>> individually and population wise, but uk is fairly pragmatic ie no laws to
>>> enforce one to do so.
>>>
>>> Roger Merriman
>
>> They seem to have made quite and effort to avoid making full tests of the Wavecell helmet that Trek makes under their Bontrager brand name. While it is true that Turbans put a lot of cloth and hence soft cushioning around the head, It compresses too much too fast.
>
> No problem. Just use bubble wrap instead of cloth:
> <https://www.saatchiart.com/art/Photography-Karen-in-Bubblewrap/261306/3494618/view>
>

It's been done. More colorfully I might add:
https://sheldonbrown.com/blog/2016/04/22/air-bag-helmet-demo/
--
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am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 12:52:41 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 2/2/2024 12:39 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 07:38:04 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 4:40:29?AM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>> https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/251115/turban-style-thickness-affects-head-injury/#:~:text=They%20then%20compared%20their%20findings,helmets%20and%20with%20bare%20heads.&text=They%20found%20that%20turbans%20greatly,the%20risk%20of%20head%20injury.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Would unsurprisingly seem that Turbans and I guess other head coverings can
>>>> potentially reduce some risks.
>>>>
>>>> Personally would seem note the lack of protection a helmet brings both
>>>> individually and population wise, but uk is fairly pragmatic ie no laws to
>>>> enforce one to do so.
>>>>
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>
>>> They seem to have made quite and effort to avoid making full tests of the Wavecell helmet that Trek makes under their Bontrager brand name. While it is true that Turbans put a lot of cloth and hence soft cushioning around the head, It compresses too much too fast.
>>
>> No problem. Just use bubble wrap instead of cloth:
>> <https://www.saatchiart.com/art/Photography-Karen-in-Bubblewrap/261306/3494618/view>>
>
>It's been done. More colorfully I might add:
>https://sheldonbrown.com/blog/2016/04/22/air-bag-helmet-demo/

Yes, but that doesn't look like a turban.

There's also a very stylish air bag helmet for cyclists available:
<https://www.hovding.com>
Oops. They declared bankruptcy on Dec 21, 2023. Looks like they may
have irritated someone important in the Swedish government. I'm going
to miss the gorgeous models in the advertisements.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=H%C3%B6vding&tbm=isch>

<https://bikerumor.com/hovding-airbag-helmet-brand-deflates-w-bankruptcy-filing-following-overturned-recall/>
"the Swedish Consumer Agency first imposed a temporary sales freeze on
November 1, 2023, due to concerns that the airbag wouldn't properly
inflate."

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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 12:52:41 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2/2/2024 12:39 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 07:38:04 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 4:40:29?AM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>>> https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/251115/turban-style-thickness-affects-head-injury/#:~:text=They%20then%20compared%20their%20findings,helmets%20and%20with%20bare%20heads.&text=They%20found%20that%20turbans%20greatly,the%20risk%20of%20head%20injury.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Would unsurprisingly seem that Turbans and I guess other head coverings can
>>>>> potentially reduce some risks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally would seem note the lack of protection a helmet brings both
>>>>> individually and population wise, but uk is fairly pragmatic ie no laws to
>>>>> enforce one to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>>>> They seem to have made quite and effort to avoid making full tests of
>>>> the Wavecell helmet that Trek makes under their Bontrager brand name.
>>>> While it is true that Turbans put a lot of cloth and hence soft
>>>> cushioning around the head, It compresses too much too fast.
>>>
>>> No problem. Just use bubble wrap instead of cloth:
>>> <https://www.saatchiart.com/art/Photography-Karen-in-Bubblewrap/261306/3494618/view>>
>>
>> It's been done. More colorfully I might add:
>> https://sheldonbrown.com/blog/2016/04/22/air-bag-helmet-demo/
>
> Yes, but that doesn't look like a turban.
>
> There's also a very stylish air bag helmet for cyclists available:
> <https://www.hovding.com>
> Oops. They declared bankruptcy on Dec 21, 2023. Looks like they may
> have irritated someone important in the Swedish government. I'm going
> to miss the gorgeous models in the advertisements.
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=H%C3%B6vding&tbm=isch>
>
> <https://bikerumor.com/hovding-airbag-helmet-brand-deflates-w-bankruptcy-filing-following-overturned-recall/>
> "the Swedish Consumer Agency first imposed a temporary sales freeze on
> November 1, 2023, due to concerns that the airbag wouldn't properly
> inflate."
>
>
>
Ah probably was always going to happen and yes did always have elegant
models, I was never it’s market, after all likely to trigger it MTB/Gravel
rides and having to pay to get it after it triggered. If I have a spill
which does happen, such as the other weekend rolled off the bike no harm
done or impact to helmet or anything as very slow speed roll!

I did see a VanMoof last autumn parked at a rural train station of all
places! Which feels like a related attempt to reinvent the wheel?

Roger Merriman

On 2/2/2024 4:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
> There's also a very stylish air bag helmet for cyclists available:
> <https://www.hovding.com>
> Oops. They declared bankruptcy on Dec 21, 2023. Looks like they may
> have irritated someone important in the Swedish government. I'm going
> to miss the gorgeous models in the advertisements.
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=H%C3%B6vding&tbm=isch>

Stylish indeed, particularly when inflated! It looks so good I'm
surprised people don't wear them everywhere. Why hide their good looks?

Of course, that can be said for regular plastic helmets too.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 18:29:29 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2/2/2024 4:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>
>> There's also a very stylish air bag helmet for cyclists available:
>> <https://www.hovding.com>
>> Oops. They declared bankruptcy on Dec 21, 2023. Looks like they may
>> have irritated someone important in the Swedish government. I'm going
>> to miss the gorgeous models in the advertisements.
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=H%C3%B6vding&tbm=isch>
>
>Stylish indeed, particularly when inflated! It looks so good I'm
>surprised people don't wear them everywhere. Why hide their good looks?
>
>Of course, that can be said for regular plastic helmets too.

Beauty is subjective.
<https://www.pinterest.com/jeaniepizzuto/ugly-hats-etc/>
<https://www.google.com/search?q=inflatable+hats&tbm=isch>
I didn't see anything that was suitable for bicycle riding.

More inflation:
<https://www.china-inflatable.com/inflatables-category/>

Might be fun to tow this around the Ukraine behind a bicycle:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doxOfJH8jCI> (0.55)

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