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From: r.hac...@wanadou.fr (Richard Hachel)
 by: Richard Hachel - Thu, 22 Dec 2022 10:40 UTC

Vo=x/(To2-To1)

Carrots and turnips.

There is not the same watches.

The blindness of relativistic physicists is total.

Here is the correct equation :

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 by: Dono. - Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:28 UTC

On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:40:30 AM UTC-8, Richard Hachel wrote:
> snip imbecilities<
Thick-skinned imbecile

Re: The relativistic error in accelerated frames

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From: r.hac...@wanadou.fr (Richard Hachel)
 by: Richard Hachel - Thu, 22 Dec 2022 17:46 UTC

Le 22/12/2022 à 12:28, "Dono." a écrit :

> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:40:30 AM UTC-8, Richard Hachel wrote:
>> snip imbecilities<
> Thick-skinned imbecile

No, not at all, but I understand that my thinking is confusing you.

It's the same thing with my explanations of Langevin's paradox, it's of
rare conceptual beauty (no man has explained it like me, emphasizing the
covariance, the anisochrony and the zoom effect of relativistic theory),
but when you're not prepared to listen, it's confusing, and worse, you
take the teacher for a perfect moron. .

R.H.

Re: The relativistic error in accelerated frames

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From: r.hac...@wanadou.fr (Richard Hachel)
 by: Richard Hachel - Thu, 22 Dec 2022 18:16 UTC

Le 22/12/2022 à 12:28, "Dono." a écrit :
> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:40:30 AM UTC-8, Richard Hachel wrote:
>> snip imbecilities<
> Thick-skinned imbecile

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Look at this image, it clearly shows where relativists' error lies when
they want to calculate too simply the dTo of an accelerated object between
events A and B on Δx.

To do this, they do To2-To1.

However, To1 can only be correctly measured by a local watch, placed
either in O or in A and To2 can only be correctly measured by a watch
placed either in O or in B.

But To1 cannot be measured by B, nor To2 by A. These watches being placed
"elsewhere".

In short, by doing so, we subtract one time from another on two
unsynchronized watches.

The equation
Vo=Δx/(To2-To1) is therefore not valid.

The correct equation is to set ΔTo²= ΔTr²+(AB/c)²

We obtain a slightly longer time, and therefore a slower observable speed
(0.93c instead of approximately 0.97c).

We have the same result with the equation I gave.

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R.H.

[SR] L'erreur des physiciens relativistes lorsqu'ils imaginent des référentiels accélérés

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From: r.hac...@wanadou.fr (Richard Hachel)
 by: Richard Hachel - Thu, 22 Dec 2022 18:28 UTC

Réponse donnée sur sci.physics.relativity qui explique pourquoi
j'utilise d'autres équations que celles admises et pour d'autres
résultats prédictifs.

Pour ceux qui peuvent lire en anglais et qui s'intéressent à la théorie
de la relativité de façon scientifique et non de façon narcissique du
style : "C'est moi le plus fort, les autres sont tous des cons, car à
l'école, on m'a enseigné que le soleil tourne autour de la terre en un
seul jour, ce que j'ai constaté par moi même depuis tout bébé".

Malheureusement, ça ne marche pas comme ça.

Il faut savoir 1. Ecouter 2. Réfléchir 3. conclure par soi-même.

C'est presque absolument impossible chez les hommes.

On n'écoute pas (ou peu), on ne réfléchit pas (du tout) on ne conclue
rien (sinon des conneries du genre : mon ennemi est un con, je ne
comprends pas ce qu'il dit, je ne fais pas d'effort, c'est un con).

> <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?lFKbHH6g8nflR1Jrdf3VVm9nmGc@jntp/Data.Media:1>
>
> Look at this image, it clearly shows where relativists' error lies when they
> want to calculate too simply the dTo of an accelerated object between events A and
> B on Δx.
>
> To do this, they do To2-To1.
>
> However, To1 can only be correctly measured by a local watch, placed either in O
> or in A and To2 can only be correctly measured by a watch placed either in O or in
> B.
>
> But To1 cannot be measured by B, nor To2 by A. These watches being placed
> "elsewhere".
>
> In short, by doing so, we subtract one time from another on two unsynchronized
> watches.
>
> The equation
> Vo=Δx/(To2-To1) is therefore not valid.
>
> The correct equation is to set ΔTo²= ΔTr²+(AB/c)²
>
> We obtain a slightly longer time, and therefore a slower observable speed (0.93c
> instead of approximately 0.97c).
>
> We have the same result with the equation I gave.
>
> <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?w4bEokySDqBdPsFQFvU1pwOIMRo@jntp/Data.Media:1>
>
> R.H.

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