On 8/09/2021 2:45 am, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 07/09/2021 03.22, Mountain Magpie wrote:
>> On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 20:56:17 -0400, nospam posted:-
>>
>>> In article <ipnpqaFap6vU1@mid.individual.net>, Mountain Magpie
>>> <Leura@bluemountains.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Beginner at semi serious photo editing - no experience except with
>>>> what Google provide in Android. Running Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> anyone serious at photo editing does not use gimp.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Which one suggested for a beginner?
>>>
>>> none. don't even waste your time or money. gimp is utter garbage. it's
>>> not even worth free, it's that bad.
>>>
>>> photoshop is available for android, along with many, many other apps.
>>
>> Thanks for the help, but not interested in editing on a pissy phone
>> screen.
>>
>> And don't run Windows or Apple - Linux.
>
>
> Good :-)
>
> And for the record, I do know professional photographers that use Linux
> and will not touch Windows, in order to keep their job safe and secure.

Either misinformed or neurotic.

> So, ignore all those fan boys :-)

As you like.

>
> I would suggest you ask instead on Linux groups, they will be more
> friendly and tolerant about you asking about photography instead, LOL.
>

Possibly, and may be able to recommend suitable software, or not.

geoff

On 07/09/2021 02.24, Mountain Magpie wrote:
>
> Beginner at semi serious photo editing - no experience except with what
> Google provide in Android. Running Ubuntu.
>
> Amazon have a truckload of books here
> https://www.amazon.com/s?k=GIMP&i=stripbooks-intl-ship&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
>
> Some prices are crazy!
>
> Which one suggested for a beginner?

My preferred search term in google is "gimp for dummies", which produces
several interesting results, starting with some videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8C0LJPpr64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeABb8cwdUg

Then, the gimp people have tutorials at
<https://www.gimp.org/tutorials/>

On other hand, there are other software specific for photography, like
Darktable or Digikam or Shotwell, and others.

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 2:24:48 AM UTC+2, Mountain Magpie wrote:
> Beginner at semi serious photo editing - no experience except with what
> Google provide in Android. Running Ubuntu.
>
> Amazon have a truckload of books here
> https://www.amazon.com/s?k=GIMP&i=stripbooks-intl-ship&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
>
> Some prices are crazy!
>
> Which one suggested for a beginner?
>
> Thanks!

On sanet.st you can also find gimp tutorial videos.
Tutorial videos are usually much better than books, once you get used
to them.

Mountain Magpie:
> Beginner at semi serious photo editing - no experience except with what
> Google provide in Android. Running Ubuntu.

Serious photo editing with Android and GIMP on Linux? Are you rehearsing a comedy act? Have you searched the web to get a feel for how many photographers, pro or amateur, are using that hardware/software? If it needs to be mobile, it needs to be Lightroom and Photoshop on a 12.9" iPad Pro. For your desktop, an iMac. $9.99 per month covers everything: your Mac and all of your iOS and iPadOS devices.An unqualified bargain. Sorry, I don't make the rules; they're based on what is tried and proven.

In article <e0ac6b8f-8c11-4959-8773-aae9b5817ec6n@googlegroups.com>,
Davoud <zerbatory@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mountain Magpie:
> > Beginner at semi serious photo editing - no experience except with what
> > Google provide in Android. Running Ubuntu.
>
> Serious photo editing with Android and GIMP on Linux? Are you rehearsing a
> comedy act? Have you searched the web to get a feel for how many
> photographers, pro or amateur, are using that hardware/software? If it needs
> to be mobile, it needs to be Lightroom and Photoshop on a 12.9" iPad Pro. For
> your desktop, an iMac. $9.99 per month covers everything: your Mac and all of
> your iOS and iPadOS devices.An unqualified bargain. Sorry, I don't make the
> rules; they're based on what is tried and proven.

another option is photoshop elements for $50ish, street prices.

some other apps are less.

On 08/09/2021 20:58, Davoud wrote:
> Mountain Magpie:
>> Beginner at semi serious photo editing - no experience except with what
>> Google provide in Android. Running Ubuntu.
>
> Serious photo editing with Android and GIMP on Linux? Are you rehearsing a comedy act? Have you searched the web to get a feel for how many photographers, pro or amateur, are using that hardware/software? If it needs to be mobile, it needs to be Lightroom and Photoshop on a 12.9" iPad Pro. For your desktop, an iMac. $9.99 per month covers everything: your Mac and all of your iOS and iPadOS devices.An unqualified bargain. Sorry, I don't make the rules; they're based on what is tried and proven.

Good answer! 🙂

<aside>

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/conundrum.2310100/?post=30245479#post-30245479

In article <shbcbv$imq$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>, David Brooks
<DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:

>
> https://forums.m

stop hijacking threads.

you've been told this before.

On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:33:03 PM UTC+2, nospam wrote:
> In article <e0ac6b8f-8c11-4959...@googlegroups.com>,
> Davoud <zerb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Mountain Magpie:
> > > Beginner at semi serious photo editing - no experience except with what
> > > Google provide in Android. Running Ubuntu.
> >
> > Serious photo editing with Android and GIMP on Linux? Are you rehearsing a
> > comedy act? Have you searched the web to get a feel for how many
> > photographers, pro or amateur, are using that hardware/software? If it needs
> > to be mobile, it needs to be Lightroom and Photoshop on a 12.9" iPad Pro. For
> > your desktop, an iMac. $9.99 per month covers everything: your Mac and all of
> > your iOS and iPadOS devices.An unqualified bargain. Sorry, I don't make the
> > rules; they're based on what is tried and proven.
> another option is photoshop elements for $50ish, street prices.
>
> some other apps are less.

A more reasonable option would be to grab an 'evaluation' copy from p2p.
Or just use web-based free version of photoshop.

https://www.photopea.com/

Of course if you're making serious money with photo editing, you might also consider
financially supporting the intellectual property mafia.

On 08/09/2021 20:58, Davoud wrote:
> Mountain Magpie:
>> Beginner at semi serious photo editing - no experience except with what
>> Google provide in Android. Running Ubuntu.
>
> Serious photo editing with Android and GIMP on Linux? Are you rehearsing a comedy act? Have you searched the web to get a feel for how many photographers, pro or amateur, are using that hardware/software? If it needs to be mobile, it needs to be Lightroom and Photoshop on a 12.9" iPad Pro. For your desktop, an iMac. $9.99 per month covers everything: your Mac and all of your iOS and iPadOS devices.An unqualified bargain. Sorry, I don't make the rules; they're based on what is tried and proven.

Or you might look at Serif Affinity:

https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/

This is a single purchase licence, about US $66, rather than a recurring cost.
Windows, iPad and Mac. Not sure about a Linux version but there's always WINE.

You may find that older software such as PaintShop Pro is easier to learn and
does all you need.
--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

On Wed, 8 Sep 2021 00:28:57 -0000, Mountain Magpie
<Leura@bluemountains.org> wrote:

>> Why not - religious reasons or something similar ?
>
>You got it! My kiddy diddling priest told me not to use these heathen
>operating systems, praise 'de Lord.

Many a true word said in jest.

On Thursday, 9 September 2021 at 05:36:59 UTC+1, David Taylor wrote:
> On 08/09/2021 20:58, Davoud wrote:
> > Mountain Magpie:
> >> Beginner at semi serious photo editing - no experience except with what
> >> Google provide in Android. Running Ubuntu.
> >
> > Serious photo editing with Android and GIMP on Linux? Are you rehearsing a comedy act? Have you searched the web to get a feel for how many photographers, pro or amateur, are using that hardware/software? If it needs to be mobile, it needs to be Lightroom and Photoshop on a 12.9" iPad Pro. For your desktop, an iMac. $9.99 per month covers everything: your Mac and all of your iOS and iPadOS devices.An unqualified bargain. Sorry, I don't make the rules; they're based on what is tried and proven.
> Or you might look at Serif Affinity:
>
> https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/
>
> This is a single purchase licence, about US $66, rather than a recurring cost.
> Windows, iPad and Mac. Not sure about a Linux version but there's always WINE.
>
> You may find that older software such as PaintShop Pro is easier to learn and
> does all you need.
> --
> Cheers,
> David
> Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

I'm pretty happy with affinity photo on an iMac and it's just a one of purchase, affinity sometimes have specail offers
so if money is really tight wait a while maybe they'll have xmas offers.

On 10/09/2021 13:06, Whisky-dave wrote:
> I'm pretty happy with affinity photo on an iMac and it's just a one of purchase, affinity sometimes have specail offers
> so if money is really tight wait a while maybe they'll have xmas offers.

As a developer I would be delighted with a regular income from every user.

As a customer a single payment is fine.
Especially when it's a half-price offer!

--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

On Friday, 10 September 2021 at 13:53:49 UTC+1, David Taylor wrote:
> On 10/09/2021 13:06, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > I'm pretty happy with affinity photo on an iMac and it's just a one of purchase, affinity sometimes have specail offers
> > so if money is really tight wait a while maybe they'll have xmas offers.
> As a developer I would be delighted with a regular income from every user.
>
> As a customer a single payment is fine.
> Especially when it's a half-price offer!

Depends on how often you use a product or service, I think there's a place for both systems, and there;s even a 3rd option
for some that use Apple computers. You pay for the system software and some standard apps, when you buy the computer
and you get free updates and upgrades until your computer can no longer support those apps.
Which in my case I bought my iMac in 2014 and still geting system and app updates/upgrades for free, including big sur.
So I'm happy haven't had a system crash or a need to reinstall for 7 years.
Wish my labs PCs ran as well down to hardware and software problems and IT problems so about 30% not working.
One this morning has the prompt.
grup rescue>

Guess it means it's lunchtime ;-)

> --
> Cheers,
> David
> Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

On 13/09/2021 13:29, Whisky-dave wrote:
> Depends on how often you use a product or service, I think there's a place for both systems, and there;s even a 3rd option
> for some that use Apple computers. You pay for the system software and some standard apps, when you buy the computer
> and you get free updates and upgrades until your computer can no longer support those apps.
> Which in my case I bought my iMac in 2014 and still geting system and app updates/upgrades for free, including big sur.
> So I'm happy haven't had a system crash or a need to reinstall for 7 years.
> Wish my labs PCs ran as well down to hardware and software problems and IT problems so about 30% not working.
> One this morning has the prompt.
> grup rescue>
>
> Guess it means it's lunchtime;-)

Sounds fair to me.
Sounds like a corrupted grub!
--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu