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ESSLNB Giant Binoculars Astronomy 15X70 with Phone Adapter Tripod Adapter and Carrying Bag FMC Waterproof Binoculars for Adults Kids

https://www.amazon.com/ESSLNB-Astronomy-Binoculars-Telescope-Stargazing/dp/B07HHMZB4G/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=kpSA5&content-id=amzn1.sym.dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_p=dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_r=Z32CH1VMEWDBN084QAWQ&pd_rd_wg=H5Sur&pd_rd_r=1dcd8cc1-fb31-488a-b5b3-5ff9048b2bc9&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m

It has a 4.5 from 5 stars, reviews!

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 by: W - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 12:32 UTC

On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:08:32 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> ESSLNB Giant Binoculars Astronomy 15X70 with Phone Adapter Tripod Adapter and Carrying Bag FMC Waterproof Binoculars for Adults Kids
>
> https://www.amazon.com/ESSLNB-Astronomy-Binoculars-Telescope-Stargazing/dp/B07HHMZB4G/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=kpSA5&content-id=amzn1.sym.dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_p=dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_r=Z32CH1VMEWDBN084QAWQ&pd_rd_wg=H5Sur&pd_rd_r=1dcd8cc1-fb31-488a-b5b3-5ff9048b2bc9&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m
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> It has a 4.5 from 5 stars, reviews!

The connection between the objective housings and the prism housings seems rather narrow.

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On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 5:32:12 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:08:32 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > ESSLNB Giant Binoculars Astronomy 15X70 with Phone Adapter Tripod Adapter and Carrying Bag FMC Waterproof Binoculars for Adults Kids
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/ESSLNB-Astronomy-Binoculars-Telescope-Stargazing/dp/B07HHMZB4G/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=kpSA5&content-id=amzn1.sym.dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_p=dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_r=Z32CH1VMEWDBN084QAWQ&pd_rd_wg=H5Sur&pd_rd_r=1dcd8cc1-fb31-488a-b5b3-5ff9048b2bc9&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m
> >
> > It has a 4.5 from 5 stars, reviews!
> The connection between the objective housings and the prism housings seems rather narrow.

It means what?
Poor quality, less light output?

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On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:49:31 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:

> Last pair of such binos I tried (from Celestron) produced star images measured in arc minutes.

That is highly unlikely. Mizar and Alcor are separated by about 12 arc-minutes and can be resolved by the naked eye for many observers. Are you claiming that your Celestrons couldn't even do this?

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 by: StarDust - Sat, 15 Jul 2023 12:24 UTC

On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:49:31 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> On Friday, 14 July 2023 at 09:24:16 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 5:32:12 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:08:32 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > > ESSLNB Giant Binoculars Astronomy 15X70 with Phone Adapter Tripod Adapter and Carrying Bag FMC Waterproof Binoculars for Adults Kids
> > > >
> > > > https://www.amazon.com/ESSLNB-Astronomy-Binoculars-Telescope-Stargazing/dp/B07HHMZB4G/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=kpSA5&content-id=amzn1.sym..dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_p=dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_r=Z32CH1VMEWDBN084QAWQ&pd_rd_wg=H5Sur&pd_rd_r=1dcd8cc1-fb31-488a-b5b3-5ff9048b2bc9&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m
> > > >
> > > > It has a 4.5 from 5 stars, reviews!
> > > The connection between the objective housings and the prism housings seems rather narrow.
> > It means what?
> > Poor quality, less light output?
> Could mean it is artificially stopped-down internally by a stop or sub-sized prisms and stops. But who knows? My guess is they are
> junk that you'll never get fully collimated, but for the price nothing is stopping you from trying them out. Last pair of such binos I tried
> (from Celestron) produced star images measured in arc minutes.

Looking at reviews on Amazon, most people happy with this bino!
🤔

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 by: W - Sat, 15 Jul 2023 15:51 UTC

On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 8:25:01 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:49:31 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > On Friday, 14 July 2023 at 09:24:16 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 5:32:12 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:08:32 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > > > ESSLNB Giant Binoculars Astronomy 15X70 with Phone Adapter Tripod Adapter and Carrying Bag FMC Waterproof Binoculars for Adults Kids
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.amazon.com/ESSLNB-Astronomy-Binoculars-Telescope-Stargazing/dp/B07HHMZB4G/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=kpSA5&content-id=amzn1.sym.dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_p=dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_r=Z32CH1VMEWDBN084QAWQ&pd_rd_wg=H5Sur&pd_rd_r=1dcd8cc1-fb31-488a-b5b3-5ff9048b2bc9&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m
> > > > >
> > > > > It has a 4.5 from 5 stars, reviews!
> > > > The connection between the objective housings and the prism housings seems rather narrow.
> > > It means what?
> > > Poor quality, less light output?
> > Could mean it is artificially stopped-down internally by a stop or sub-sized prisms and stops. But who knows? My guess is they are
> > junk that you'll never get fully collimated, but for the price nothing is stopping you from trying them out. Last pair of such binos I tried
> > (from Celestron) produced star images measured in arc minutes.
> Looking at reviews on Amazon, most people happy with this bino!
> 🤔
These will show more than some compact binocular that costs the same $73. Therefore they can be considered a good value.

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 by: Saunderlin - Sat, 15 Jul 2023 19:43 UTC

On 7/15/23 1:22 AM, palsing wrote:
> On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:49:31 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
>
>> Last pair of such binos I tried (from Celestron) produced star images measured in arc minutes.
>
> That is highly unlikely. Mizar and Alcor are separated by about 12 arc-minutes and can be resolved by the naked eye for many observers. Are you claiming that your Celestrons couldn't even do this?
I wouldn't go by too much of what he says. This is a guy who keeps
touting that satellites will ruin astronomy without any concept of what
image stacking is able to accomplish even when it is pointed out to him
in an elementary way. Therefore, how can we expect him to be able to
adequately perform even simple binocular tests.

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 by: StarDust - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 02:46 UTC

On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 7:33:09 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 08:25:01 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:49:31 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > On Friday, 14 July 2023 at 09:24:16 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 5:32:12 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:08:32 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > > > > ESSLNB Giant Binoculars Astronomy 15X70 with Phone Adapter Tripod Adapter and Carrying Bag FMC Waterproof Binoculars for Adults Kids
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/ESSLNB-Astronomy-Binoculars-Telescope-Stargazing/dp/B07HHMZB4G/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=kpSA5&content-id=amzn1..sym.dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_p=dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_r=Z32CH1VMEWDBN084QAWQ&pd_rd_wg=H5Sur&pd_rd_r=1dcd8cc1-fb31-488a-b5b3-5ff9048b2bc9&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It has a 4.5 from 5 stars, reviews!
> > > > > The connection between the objective housings and the prism housings seems rather narrow.
> > > > It means what?
> > > > Poor quality, less light output?
> > > Could mean it is artificially stopped-down internally by a stop or sub-sized prisms and stops. But who knows? My guess is they are
> > > junk that you'll never get fully collimated, but for the price nothing is stopping you from trying them out. Last pair of such binos I tried
> > > (from Celestron) produced star images measured in arc minutes.
> > Looking at reviews on Amazon, most people happy with this bino!
> > 🤔
> Most people wouldn't know a good binocular from a hole in the ground. But again, they are cheap so no loss if they suck.

Bino actually even cheaper, bc I have enough points on Amazon to cover half the 70 bucks.
But I have enough astro toys, don't need another one.
Hehe!
If it was a Leitz for 70 bucks?
That's another story!
🤔👍

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 by: palsing - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 04:39 UTC

On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 7:31:38 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 01:22:49 UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:49:31 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> >
> > > Last pair of such binos I tried (from Celestron) produced star images measured in arc minutes.

> > That is highly unlikely. Mizar and Alcor are separated by about 12 arc-minutes and can be resolved by the naked eye for many observers. Are you claiming that your Celestrons couldn't even do this?

> I'm claiming star images were rendered as visible disks at the power of the binoculars.

Well, this can happen with really poor seeing. Stars looking like tennis balls is common when the seeing sucks... either that or you don't know how to focus... to, the binos were just crap!

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 by: StarDust - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 10:56 UTC

On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 9:39:56 PM UTC-7, palsing wrote:
> On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 7:31:38 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 01:22:49 UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:49:31 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > >
> > > > Last pair of such binos I tried (from Celestron) produced star images measured in arc minutes.
>
> > > That is highly unlikely. Mizar and Alcor are separated by about 12 arc-minutes and can be resolved by the naked eye for many observers. Are you claiming that your Celestrons couldn't even do this?
>
> > I'm claiming star images were rendered as visible disks at the power of the binoculars.
> Well, this can happen with really poor seeing. Stars looking like tennis balls is common when the seeing sucks... either that or you don't know how to focus... to, the binos were just crap!

That's why I like refrectors, image quality don't break down as easy , like compound telescopes.
Also, HQ refrectors can handle lot of power, per inch.
MINE 100X/inch.

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 by: Scott Kozel - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 03:25 UTC

On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 6:56:59 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 9:39:56 PM UTC-7, palsing wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 7:31:38 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 01:22:49 UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:49:31 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Last pair of such binos I tried (from Celestron) produced star images measured in arc minutes.
> >
> > > > That is highly unlikely. Mizar and Alcor are separated by about 12 arc-minutes and can be resolved by the naked eye for many observers. Are you claiming that your Celestrons couldn't even do this?
> >
> > > I'm claiming star images were rendered as visible disks at the power of the binoculars.
> > Well, this can happen with really poor seeing. Stars looking like tennis balls is common when the seeing sucks... either that or you don't know how to focus... to, the binos were just crap!
> That's why I like refrectors, image quality don't break down as easy , like compound telescopes.
> Also, HQ refrectors can handle lot of power, per inch.
> MINE 100X/inch.

Are you referring to refractor or reflector?

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On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 8:25:46 PM UTC-7, Scott Kozel wrote:
> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 6:56:59 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 9:39:56 PM UTC-7, palsing wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 7:31:38 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 01:22:49 UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:49:31 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Last pair of such binos I tried (from Celestron) produced star images measured in arc minutes.
> > >
> > > > > That is highly unlikely. Mizar and Alcor are separated by about 12 arc-minutes and can be resolved by the naked eye for many observers. Are you claiming that your Celestrons couldn't even do this?
> > >
> > > > I'm claiming star images were rendered as visible disks at the power of the binoculars.
> > > Well, this can happen with really poor seeing. Stars looking like tennis balls is common when the seeing sucks... either that or you don't know how to focus... to, the binos were just crap!
> > That's why I like refrectors, image quality don't break down as easy , like compound telescopes.
> > Also, HQ refrectors can handle lot of power, per inch.
> > MINE 100X/inch.
> Are you referring to refractor or reflector?

Refractors, of course!

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On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 10:33:09 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 08:25:01 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:49:31 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > On Friday, 14 July 2023 at 09:24:16 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 5:32:12 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:08:32 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > > > > ESSLNB Giant Binoculars Astronomy 15X70 with Phone Adapter Tripod Adapter and Carrying Bag FMC Waterproof Binoculars for Adults Kids
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/ESSLNB-Astronomy-Binoculars-Telescope-Stargazing/dp/B07HHMZB4G/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=kpSA5&content-id=amzn1..sym.dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_p=dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_r=Z32CH1VMEWDBN084QAWQ&pd_rd_wg=H5Sur&pd_rd_r=1dcd8cc1-fb31-488a-b5b3-5ff9048b2bc9&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It has a 4.5 from 5 stars, reviews!
> > > > > The connection between the objective housings and the prism housings seems rather narrow.
> > > > It means what?
> > > > Poor quality, less light output?
> > > Could mean it is artificially stopped-down internally by a stop or sub-sized prisms and stops. But who knows? My guess is they are
> > > junk that you'll never get fully collimated, but for the price nothing is stopping you from trying them out. Last pair of such binos I tried
> > > (from Celestron) produced star images measured in arc minutes.
> > Looking at reviews on Amazon, most people happy with this bino!
> > 🤔
> Most people wouldn't know a good binocular from a hole in the ground. But again, they are cheap so no loss if they suck.

Most people would be able to distinguish a $50 bino from a $1000 bino in a side-by-side comparison.
Yet for most PURPOSES the $1000 bino is a ridiculous waste of money considering what else that money could have bought.
The $50 bino will reveal objects invisible to the unaided eye, so it can be a good value. Even if RichA thinks it's junk.

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On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 8:52:46 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 00:39:56 UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 7:31:38 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 01:22:49 UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:49:31 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Last pair of such binos I tried (from Celestron) produced star images measured in arc minutes.
> >
> > > > That is highly unlikely. Mizar and Alcor are separated by about 12 arc-minutes and can be resolved by the naked eye for many observers. Are you claiming that your Celestrons couldn't even do this?
> >
> > > I'm claiming star images were rendered as visible disks at the power of the binoculars.
> > Well, this can happen with really poor seeing. Stars looking like tennis balls is common when the seeing sucks... either that or you don't know how to focus... to, the binos were just crap!
> Yes, after owning I think 300 scopes and binos, "I don't know how to focus." The binos were garbage. But even from China, what can you expect for $70.00? Good (not great, just good) Celestron 80mm binos in the 1980s (Japan) cost over $300. That's about $1400 in today's >money.

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Among the favorable reviews for this bino there is at least one digiscoped image of the Moon that is definitely showing detail far smaller than one arc-minute.

You will have to give some more details about the actual bino that you 'tested' or else admit that you were exaggerating about that one-arc-minute stuff.

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On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 6:19:37 PM UTC-7, W wrote:
> On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 8:52:46 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 00:39:56 UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 7:31:38 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 01:22:49 UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:49:31 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Last pair of such binos I tried (from Celestron) produced star images measured in arc minutes.
> > >
> > > > > That is highly unlikely. Mizar and Alcor are separated by about 12 arc-minutes and can be resolved by the naked eye for many observers. Are you claiming that your Celestrons couldn't even do this?
> > >
> > > > I'm claiming star images were rendered as visible disks at the power of the binoculars.
> > > Well, this can happen with really poor seeing. Stars looking like tennis balls is common when the seeing sucks... either that or you don't know how to focus... to, the binos were just crap!
> > Yes, after owning I think 300 scopes and binos, "I don't know how to focus." The binos were garbage. But even from China, what can you expect for $70.00? Good (not great, just good) Celestron 80mm binos in the 1980s (Japan) cost over $300. That's about $1400 in today's >money.
> --
> Among the favorable reviews for this bino there is at least one digiscoped image of the Moon that is definitely showing detail far smaller than one arc-minute.
>
> You will have to give some more details about the actual bino that you 'tested' or else admit that you were exaggerating about that one-arc-minute stuff.

Yeh, it even comes with a mobil mount to take pictures with the bino.
Not sure how it works though?

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On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 11:16:46 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:

> Yeh, it even comes with a mobil mount to take pictures with the bino.
> Not sure how it works though?

It looks as if it clamps onto the eyepiece barrel and the camera is held on with a suction cup. I would not trust such a device.

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On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:02:19 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 23:16:46 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:

> > Yeh, it even comes with a mobil mount to take pictures with the bino.
> > Not sure how it works though?
> Let us know how they turn out. A nutter on cloudynights suggested he was going to eat pineapples to "cure" floaters because they have an "enzyme" in them that "dissolves" the floaters. I asked
> how the enzyme was going to get into his eye, bypassing the digestive track. Crickets chirping. Quack medicine is a multi-billion $$$ >business in the U.S.

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The science on that is not very robust. However, FRESH pineapple is a food that can promote good general health, including vision.

In which four aliens arrive in a 1971 Eldorado just in time to save Joshua Tree:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD8VNZwN1mM

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 by: W - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 08:59 UTC

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 1:44:51 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 15:56:55 UTC-4, W wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:02:19 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > > On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 23:16:46 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> >
> > > > Yeh, it even comes with a mobil mount to take pictures with the bino.
> > > > Not sure how it works though?
> > > Let us know how they turn out. A nutter on cloudynights suggested he was going to eat pineapples to "cure" floaters because they have an "enzyme" in them that "dissolves" the floaters. I asked
> > > how the enzyme was going to get into his eye, bypassing the digestive track. Crickets chirping. Quack medicine is a multi-billion $$$ >business in the U.S.
> > --
> >
> > The science on that is not very robust. However, FRESH pineapple is a food that can promote good general health, including vision.
> >
> > In which four aliens arrive in a 1971 Eldorado just in time to save Joshua Tree:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD8VNZwN1mM
> Most vegetables, fruits, lean meats, nuts do, but pineapples have a lot of sugar in them too. 10 grams per 100 gram slice. Interestingly, >same as average apple.

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Pineapple is more nutritious than apple, so for a given amount of sugar intake FRESH pineapple is a better choice than apple.

A little bit of FRESH pineapple might go a long way.

Those who really need to watch their sugar intake will already have a diet plan which takes nutrition into account.

The producers of the music video either have to avoid high GI foods or just don't like pineapple's sour taste? So, maybe it will work on aliens?

Re: 15x70 mm Bino for $73 on Amazon

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 by: StarDust - Wed, 9 Aug 2023 04:06 UTC

On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 7:08:32 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
> ESSLNB Giant Binoculars Astronomy 15X70 with Phone Adapter Tripod Adapter and Carrying Bag FMC Waterproof Binoculars for Adults Kids
>
> https://www.amazon.com/ESSLNB-Astronomy-Binoculars-Telescope-Stargazing/dp/B07HHMZB4G/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=kpSA5&content-id=amzn1.sym.dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_p=dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_r=Z32CH1VMEWDBN084QAWQ&pd_rd_wg=H5Sur&pd_rd_r=1dcd8cc1-fb31-488a-b5b3-5ff9048b2bc9&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m
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> It has a 4.5 from 5 stars, reviews!

Looks like it's sold out on Amazon!
🥱😪

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 by: StarDust - Wed, 9 Aug 2023 04:09 UTC

On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 7:08:32 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
> ESSLNB Giant Binoculars Astronomy 15X70 with Phone Adapter Tripod Adapter and Carrying Bag FMC Waterproof Binoculars for Adults Kids
>
> https://www.amazon.com/ESSLNB-Astronomy-Binoculars-Telescope-Stargazing/dp/B07HHMZB4G/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=kpSA5&content-id=amzn1.sym.dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_p=dba1a2d0-88dc-4504-a5d7-10259373e587&pf_rd_r=Z32CH1VMEWDBN084QAWQ&pd_rd_wg=H5Sur&pd_rd_r=1dcd8cc1-fb31-488a-b5b3-5ff9048b2bc9&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m
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> It has a 4.5 from 5 stars, reviews!

Celestron – SkyMaster 15x70 Binocular still available for $109 - free shp with prime
Still a good deal!

https://www.amazon.com/Celestron-SkyMaster-Binoculars-Tripod-Adapter/dp/B00008Y0VN/ref=dp_prsubs_sccl_3/145-5084723-5064963?pd_rd_w=J5XSZ&content-id=amzn1.sym.6a0b07b6-1a0b-45e8-8450-5c85af215183&pf_rd_p=6a0b07b6-1a0b-45e8-8450-5c85af215183&pf_rd_r=AVZJW5AZSEN33D57SFAN&pd_rd_wg=J1wy5&pd_rd_r=3b506419-5902-45fe-9f34-53fe19f4f7e5&pd_rd_i=B00008Y0VN&th=1

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