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* Having a hellav'a lot of fun over on Stackexchange today...patdolan
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Having a hellav'a lot of fun over on Stackexchange today...

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 by: patdolan - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 00:12 UTC

....with my eponymous dilemma:

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/580388/does-keplers-3rd-law-of-planetary-motion-violate-the-first-postulate

There are some pretty pissed off relativists over there...the following answer of mine has garnered a -3 in just over an hour!!!
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The first answer seeks to invalidate Kepler’s laws as only “approximations to the [actual] laws of physics in the non-relativistic limit”. It is then left to the reader’s imagination as to what those relativistically correct laws of physics might look like in this case. This seems too dismissive.

I will demonstrate that it is in fact Kepler’s third law which invalidates special and/or general relativity, and not the other way round. The method of reductio ad absurdum will be employed in the demonstration.

Consider the situation described above in the original question. The distant observer’s trajectory guarantees that the earth’s orbit around the sun remains un-distorted by Lorentz contraction. The distant observer watches Big Ben in London with a powerful telescope. Allowing for relativistic doppler, at .867c the distant observer measures Big Ben to be keeping time at only half the rate of his own proper time wristwatch. This is in accordance with special relativity.

From the standpoint of the distant observer, in order for Big Ben and the earth’s orbital period to remain synchronized at 730.5 revolutions of Big Ben’s little hand for every revolution that the earth makes around the sun, the earth’s orbital velocity will have to slow down to half the speed that we measure in the solar system’s rest frame. So far so good.

But a problem arises when we consider that while the earth’s orbital velocity has been cut in half, the spacetime curvature in which the earth is traveling has not been reduced at all. That remains invariant for all observers in all inertial frames:

Does the spacetime curvature in the vicinity of a massive body increase, decrease or remain unchanged with the increasing velocity of an observer?

We have constructed a situation in which the earth is traveling in the identical spacetime curvature, but at a velocity we know to be far too slow to sustain its orbit around the sun. In this example we find to our embarrassment that the fate of the earth rests in the hands of a distant observer who controls whether or not the earth will spiral into the sun.
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Jan, now is your change to get some revenge against me in a much wider and much more respectable forum. You too Dono, Dirk, Tom Roberts, Silvia, Prokary, Python, Moroney, Long Ears, the two Pauls, Athel--mainly in England.....

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 by: Dono. - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 04:01 UTC

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 4:12:11 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:

> Does the spacetime curvature in the vicinity of a massive body increase, decrease or remain unchanged with the increasing velocity of an observer?

Despicable piece of lazy shit

I already answered the above some time ago. Get off your fat lazy ass and find the answer.

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 by: Richard Hertz - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 14:14 UTC

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 1:01:23 AM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:

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> Despicable piece of lazy shit

How come a despicable being (Dono) can tell a human being despicable?. It doesn't make sense, except
with a fucking, pervert relativist like Dono.

It's like as if a ugly motherf****r tell to other person that is ugly. Only in the shitty world of relativity (see how it works, Dono the cretin?).

Or an utter cretin like you calling other "cretin".

Or a deviated ignorant like you calling other "ignorant".

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On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 6:14:48 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 1:01:23 AM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
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> <snip>
> > Despicable piece of lazy shit
> How come a despicable kapo (Richard Hertz)

Indeed.

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 by: Kobie Locatelli - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:40 UTC

Dono. wrote:

> On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 6:14:48 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
>> On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 1:01:23 AM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
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>> <snip>
>> > Despicable piece of lazy shit
>> How come a despicable kapo (Richard Hertz)
>
> Indeed.

it looks like electronic tracks, with the mass, vcc and main signals wider
compared to the rest. But it's too complex, and definitely not from the
camera pixels, which would expect forms of regularity. I have no idea what
it is, and it's not fake, because the complexity.

HUMMING IN THE SKY? THIS IS INSANE! YOU WILL NEVER LOOK AT THE SKY THE
SAME WAY AFTER YOU SEE THIS!
http://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/%76%69%64%65%6f/Qb2A4IFFvP1y

more likely this planet is fucked up from below, not from above.

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 by: patdolan - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 18:23 UTC

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 8:01:23 PM UTC-8, Dono. wrote:
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 4:12:11 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
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> > Does the spacetime curvature in the vicinity of a massive body increase, decrease or remain unchanged with the increasing velocity of an observer?
> Despicable piece of lazy shit
>
> I already answered the above some time ago. Get off your fat lazy ass and find the answer.
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/704815/does-the-spacetime-curvature-in-the-vicinity-of-a-massive-body-increase-decreas

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 by: patdolan - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 23:38 UTC

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 8:01:23 PM UTC-8, Dono. wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 4:12:11 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> >
> > > Does the spacetime curvature in the vicinity of a massive body increase, decrease or remain unchanged with the increasing velocity of an observer?
> > Despicable piece of lazy shit
> >

Well, Dono? Argue against this brilliant youg Brazilian physics student's reasoning on stackexchange:

> > I already answered the above some time ago. Get off your fat lazy ass and find the answer.
> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/704815/does-the-spacetime-curvature-in-the-vicinity-of-a-massive-body-increase-decreas

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 by: Dono. - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 23:55 UTC

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 3:38:08 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 8:01:23 PM UTC-8, Dono. wrote:
> > > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 4:12:11 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does the spacetime curvature in the vicinity of a massive body increase, decrease or remain unchanged with the increasing velocity of an observer?
> > > Despicable piece of lazy shit
> > >
> Well, Dono? Argue against this brilliant youg Brazilian physics student's reasoning on stackexchange:
> > > I already answered the above some time ago. Get off your fat lazy ass and find the answer.
> > https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/704815/does-the-spacetime-curvature-in-the-vicinity-of-a-massive-body-increase-decreas
Dumbestfuck

The answer is the same I gave you months ago. Stop trolling, curvature in invariant. You are eating shit on too many websites.

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 by: patdolan - Mon, 16 Jan 2023 04:33 UTC

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 3:55:58 PM UTC-8, Dono. wrote:
> On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 3:38:08 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 8:01:23 PM UTC-8, Dono. wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 4:12:11 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Does the spacetime curvature in the vicinity of a massive body increase, decrease or remain unchanged with the increasing velocity of an observer?
> > > > Despicable piece of lazy shit
> > > >
> > Well, Dono? Argue against this brilliant youg Brazilian physics student's reasoning on stackexchange:
> > > > I already answered the above some time ago. Get off your fat lazy ass and find the answer.
> > > https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/704815/does-the-spacetime-curvature-in-the-vicinity-of-a-massive-body-increase-decreas
> Dumbestfuck
>
> The answer is the same I gave you months ago. Stop trolling, curvature in invariant. You are eating shit on too many websites.
Yeah, that's what I told the chumps on stackexchange. Or rather, they confirmed your point of view when I posed the question to them. They were onboard with invariant curvature right up until I cleverly used it against them as the key pivot in my eponymous dilemma. Now they don't know what the hell to do. I think they shadow banned my answer that I also posted here...it's grayed out.

I just don't understand why people aren't excited and happy to see a scientific theory, any scientific theory, topple and fall. It should be a cause for joy at the re-emergence of truth...or at least at the death of error. Relativists are weird that way. Science, Truth and stuff don't really seem to be their jam...weird-asses.

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 by: Dono. - Mon, 16 Jan 2023 05:13 UTC

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 8:33:54 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 3:55:58 PM UTC-8, Dono. wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 3:38:08 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > > On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 8:01:23 PM UTC-8, Dono. wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 4:12:11 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Does the spacetime curvature in the vicinity of a massive body increase, decrease or remain unchanged with the increasing velocity of an observer?
> > > > > Despicable piece of lazy shit
> > > > >
> > > Well, Dono? Argue against this brilliant youg Brazilian physics student's reasoning on stackexchange:
> > > > > I already answered the above some time ago. Get off your fat lazy ass and find the answer.
> > > > https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/704815/does-the-spacetime-curvature-in-the-vicinity-of-a-massive-body-increase-decreas
> > Dumbestfuck
> >
> > The answer is the same I gave you months ago. Stop trolling, curvature in invariant. You are eating shit on too many websites.
< I think they shadow banned my answer that I also posted here...it's grayed out.
Pattycakes,

You need to come to grips with the fact that people dislike being trolled by drunken imbeciles (you).

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