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* An erroneneous measurement?Maciej Wozniak
`- Re: An erroneneous measurement?Richard Hertz

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An erroneneous measurement?

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Subject: An erroneneous measurement?
From: maluwozn...@gmail.com (Maciej Wozniak)
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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 07:40 UTC

On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 18:30:46 UTC+1, Tom Roberts wrote:

> > physical contraction when it gives rise to internal stresses/strains
> > inside the object.
> No! "Length contraction" never induces "internal stresses/strains inside
> the object", for the simple reason that the object itself is UNCHANGED
> -- it is only MEASUREMENT BY SOME OTHER INERTIAL FRAME THAT IS AFFECTED.
>
> This ought to be obvious: when an observer moves inertially past the
> object while making a measurement, that measurement is affected by
> "length contraction". How could some other observer making a measurement
> possibly affect the object itself????

Tell me, Tom, poor idiot - how do you call a situation
where the result of a measurement doesn't match the
real value of the measured parameter?

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Subject: Re: An erroneneous measurement?
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 by: Richard Hertz - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:43 UTC

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 4:40:07 AM UTC-3, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 18:30:46 UTC+1, Tom Roberts wrote:
>
> > > physical contraction when it gives rise to internal stresses/strains
> > > inside the object.
> > No! "Length contraction" never induces "internal stresses/strains inside
> > the object", for the simple reason that the object itself is UNCHANGED
> > -- it is only MEASUREMENT BY SOME OTHER INERTIAL FRAME THAT IS AFFECTED.
> >
> > This ought to be obvious: when an observer moves inertially past the
> > object while making a measurement, that measurement is affected by
> > "length contraction". How could some other observer making a measurement
> > possibly affect the object itself????
>
> Tell me, Tom, poor idiot - how do you call a situation
> where the result of a measurement doesn't match the
> real value of the measured parameter?

I'd call it a scam, if they're trying to steal money from what you purchase, OR a relativistic moment,
where an imbecile is trying to convince you about his "perceptual, einstenian based" reality, where
he sees things that others don't (early signs of schizophrenia).

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