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* iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
+* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Alan Baker
|+* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Lewis
||+- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
||+* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Jolly Roger
|||`* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
||| `- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Alan Baker
||`- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
|`* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)JF Mezei
| +* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
| |`* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Alan Baker
| | `* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Lewis
| |  `- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
| +* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Lewis
| |`- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
| +* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)sms
| |`* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)nospam
| | +- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
| | `* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Lewis
| |  +* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)nospam
| |  |+* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Jolly Roger
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| |  |||+* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Lewis
| |  ||||`* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)nospam
| |  |||| +* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
| |  |||| |`- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Alan Baker
| |  |||| `* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Jolly Roger
| |  ||||  `* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
| |  ||||   `- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Alan Baker
| |  |||`- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Jolly Roger
| |  ||`- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
| |  |`- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
| |  `- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
| `* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Jolly Roger
|  `* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
|   +* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Jolly Roger
|   |`* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
|   | `* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Jolly Roger
|   |  `- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
|   `- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Alan Baker
+* Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Robin Goodfellow
|`- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Alan Baker
`- Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)Andy Burnelli

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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:31 UTC

On 2021-09-23, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnskpb1u.13up.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
><g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>> In article <sigopd$dp7$1@dont-email.me>, sms
>>> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>> That is correct. Look what happened in China:
>>
>>> that's not what happened in china.
>>
>> sms is incapable of posting anything without being factually
>> deficient, it seems.
>
> he follows the trump playbook. repeat lies often enough and maybe
> people will believe it.

Arlen (under his slew of nyms), sms, JF Mezei, and horriblegolferdude
all follow that playbook like a religion.

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 by: nospam - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:37 UTC

In article <ir3ruoFpp6bU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> >>> In article <sigopd$dp7$1@dont-email.me>, sms
> >>> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> >>>> That is correct. Look what happened in China:
> >>
> >>> that's not what happened in china.
> >>
> >> sms is incapable of posting anything without being factually
> >> deficient, it seems.
> >
> > he follows the trump playbook. repeat lies often enough and maybe
> > people will believe it.
>
> Arlen (under his slew of nyms), sms,

yes

> JF Mezei, and horriblegolferdude

no.

> all follow that playbook like a religion.

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 by: Alan Baker - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 18:20 UTC

On 2021-09-23 1:43 a.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> asked
>> Not the data that is end-to-end encrypted, which includes:
>> * Messages in iCloud
>
> *Nobody lies, like Apple lies.*

1. The comma is completely incorrect in that sentence.

2. You lie at least as well as Apple does.

>
> It's revealing how apologists _always_ fall for Apple's clever wording.
> It doesn't matter to apologists what Apple _actually_ says or does.
> It only matters to apologists what Apple _wanted_ you to interpret it as.
>
> <https://www.howtogeek.com/710509/apples-imessage-is-secure...-unless-you-have-icloud-enabled/>
>
> *Your iCloud iMessage backups are _NOT_ end-to-end encrypted.*
>
> With iCloud Backup enabled, your iCloud messages are encrypted,
> then backed up to iCloud and stored on Apple's servers.
>
> However, Apple receives a copy of the key that is used to encrypt
> that backup.
>
> In other words Apple and its employees can always access the contents
> of your iMessage backups on Apple's servers any time they wish to.
>
> For any reason they feel they have a need to access your data.
>
> *Your iCloud iMessage backups are _NOT_ end-to-end encrypted.*
>
> This also means that Apple could turn over the contents of your
> iMessage history to anyone Apple wishes to give them to.

Only if you opt for iCloud backups...

>

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 by: Lewis - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 19:54 UTC

In message <230920211337294422%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <ir3ruoFpp6bU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>> >>> In article <sigopd$dp7$1@dont-email.me>, sms
>> >>> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> That is correct. Look what happened in China:
>> >>
>> >>> that's not what happened in china.
>> >>
>> >> sms is incapable of posting anything without being factually
>> >> deficient, it seems.
>> >
>> > he follows the trump playbook. repeat lies often enough and maybe
>> > people will believe it.
>>
>> Arlen (under his slew of nyms), sms,

> yes

>> JF Mezei, and horriblegolferdude

> no.

Yes. He spent YEARS repeatedly lying about Apple Pay in Canada. Years
and Years.

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 by: nospam - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 20:07 UTC

In article <slrnskpms8.1gqu.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> >> >> sms is incapable of posting anything without being factually
> >> >> deficient, it seems.
> >> >
> >> > he follows the trump playbook. repeat lies often enough and maybe
> >> > people will believe it.
> >>
> >> Arlen (under his slew of nyms), sms,
>
> > yes
>
> >> JF Mezei, and horriblegolferdude
>
> > no.
>
> Yes. He spent YEARS repeatedly lying about Apple Pay in Canada. Years
> and Years.

jf isn't intentionally lying. he says what he does out of ignorance.

most of what sms says is intentional deception and outright lies, just
like trump, which he's been doing for *years* and in many different
newsgroups.

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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:08 UTC

Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> asked
> sms is incapable of posting anything without being factually deficient,
> it seems.

Aren't you apologists the ones who are denying the facts sms pointed to?
*Censorship, Surveillance and Profits: A Hard Bargain for Apple in China*
<https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-data.html>

Despite Apple's many very public lies, the New York Times wasn't fooled.
"If you look at the behavior of the Chinese government, you don't see
any resistance from Apple - no history of standing up for the principles
that Apple (merely) _claims_ to be so attached to."

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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:11 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
> he follows the trump playbook. repeat lies often enough and maybe
> people will believe it.

I've studied you dozen or so apologists closely for many years now...

What's interesting is you apologists always reveal how _you_ operate
when you have absolutely no adult defense to the facts being presented.

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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:12 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> asked
> sms, JF Mezei, and horriblegolferdude
> all follow that playbook like a religion.

It's interesting that the _adults_ on the Apple newsgroup are whom these
child-like apologists hate.

Why?
I don't know why.

I suspect the apologists _hate_ they have no adult defense to facts.

*Censorship, Surveillance and Profits: A Hard Bargain for Apple in China*
<https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-data.html>
"Apple has become a cog in the censorship machine that presents a
government-controlled version of the internet, said Nicholas Bequelin,
Asia director for Amnesty International"

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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:14 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
> jf isn't intentionally lying. he says what he does out of ignorance.
>
> most of what sms says is intentional deception and outright lies, just
> like trump, which he's been doing for *years* and in many different
> newsgroups.

Name just a _single_ incorrect fact from me, nospam, in decades on this ng.

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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:19 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> asked
> iCloud Backups are *optional* and *opt-in*, and when you *don't* backup
> to iCloud, Messages in iCloud are encrypted with a key Apple
> does *not* have.

I agree with Jolly Roger that iCloud backups are _optional_ for messages.

My point is to make it clear to users the instant you choose to back up your
messages, you lose the benefits of end to end encryption on iCloud backups.

I also agree with Jolly Roger that those who actively decide to voluntarily
opt out of the iCloud _do_ get end to end encryption of their messages.

I never said otherwise (as all intelligent people can handle these details).

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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 22:34 UTC

On 2021-09-23, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <ir3ruoFpp6bU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <sigopd$dp7$1@dont-email.me>, sms
>>>>> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is correct. Look what happened in China:
>>>>
>>>>> that's not what happened in china.
>>>>
>>>> sms is incapable of posting anything without being factually
>>>> deficient, it seems.
>>>
>>> he follows the trump playbook. repeat lies often enough and maybe
>>> people will believe it.
>>
>> Arlen (under his slew of nyms), sms,
>
> yes
>
>> JF Mezei, and horriblegolferdude
>
> no.
>
>> all follow that playbook like a religion.

Oh yes. JF Mezei repeats lies about Apple *constantly*. And so does
terriblegolferdoofus. They repeat lies, over and over again. Stop
arguing for the sake of argument. It's silly and counterproductive.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 22:37 UTC

On 2021-09-23, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnskpms8.1gqu.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
><g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>>>>> sms is incapable of posting anything without being factually
>>>>>> deficient, it seems.
>>>>>
>>>>> he follows the trump playbook. repeat lies often enough and
>>>>> maybe people will believe it.
>>>>
>>>> Arlen (under his slew of nyms), sms,
>>
>>> yes
>>
>> >> JF Mezei, and horriblegolferdude
>>
>>> no.
>>
>> Yes. He spent YEARS repeatedly lying about Apple Pay in Canada. Years
>> and Years.
>
> jf isn't intentionally lying

That's bullshit, considering how many times he has been shown to be
wrong yet continues to tell the same lies.

And at a certain point, arguing about "intent" only serves to prolong
their disruption, which isn't helpful to the group.

> most of what sms says is intentional deception and outright lies

The same can be said of JF Mezei and lowscoregolferboy.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 22:40 UTC

On 2021-09-23, Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> asked
>>
>> iCloud Backups are *optional* and *opt-in*, and when you *don't* backup
>> to iCloud, Messages in iCloud are encrypted with a key Apple
>> does *not* have.
>
> the instant you choose to back up your messages, you lose the benefits
> of end to end encryption on iCloud backups.

Not if you back them up to a computer instead, which is easily done and
free of charge. Nobody forces you to backup to iCloud. iCloud backups
are completely *option* and *opt-in*. Meanwhile, Message in iCloud
remains end-to-end encrypted.

You are clueless as always, trollboi.

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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 02:15 UTC

On 2021-09-23 2:14 p.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
>> jf isn't intentionally lying. he says what he does out of ignorance.
>>
>> most of what sms says is intentional deception and outright lies, just
>> like trump, which he's been doing for *years* and in many different
>> newsgroups.
>
> Name just a _single_ incorrect fact from me, nospam, in decades on this ng.
>

You called a notice that directed you to Apple's Privacy Policy...

....the Privacy Policy itself.

A thing cannot be the same as the thing to which it directs you.

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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 02:26 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> asked
> Not if you back them up to a computer instead, which is easily done and
> free of charge. Nobody forces you to backup to iCloud. iCloud backups
> are completely *option* and *opt-in*. Meanwhile, Message in iCloud
> remains end-to-end encrypted.

Again, I concur with Jolly Roger that if you back up your messages to your
own computer (hopefully without the brain-dead iTunes bloatware), you won't
have to worry about Apple decrypting your messages for whatever reasons
Apple has when you, instead, choose to back your messages up to the iCloud.

I agree with anyone who says adult things that are sensible & factual.

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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 02:37 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> asked
> repeatedly lying about everything Apple in order to
> cast them in as negative a light as possible.

I find it revealing Jolly Roger calls what amounts to well known facts about
Apple as "trying to cast Apple in as negative a light as possible".

Why is it that the mere facts themselves are what you _hate_ about Apple?

Apple paid over a billion dollars in criminal fines & legal settlements with
30 attorneys general just last year alone for Apple's many very public lies.

"Apple discovered that battery issues were leading to unexpected shutdowns
in iPhones. Rather than disclosing these issues or replacing batteries,
however, Apple concealed the issues from consumers.

Apple's concealment ultimately led to a software update in December 2016
that reduced iPhone performance... Apple's concealment of the battery
issues and decision to throttle the performance of consumers' iPhones
*led to Apple profiting from selling additional iPhones to consumers*
whose phone performance Apple had slowed.

Apple customers were left with only one option-the most expensive one.
https://www.tn.gov/attorneygeneral/news/2020/11/25/pr20-53.html

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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 02:59 UTC

On 2021-09-23 7:37 p.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> asked
>> repeatedly lying about everything Apple in order to
>> cast them in as negative a light as possible.
>
> I find it revealing Jolly Roger calls what amounts to well known facts about
> Apple as "trying to cast Apple in as negative a light as possible".
>
> Why is it that the mere facts themselves are what you _hate_ about Apple?
>
> Apple paid over a billion dollars in criminal fines & legal settlements with
> 30 attorneys general just last year alone for Apple's many very public lies.

Apple paid no money at all in criminal fines.

>
> "Apple discovered that battery issues were leading to unexpected shutdowns
> in iPhones. Rather than disclosing these issues or replacing batteries,
> however, Apple concealed the issues from consumers.
>
> Apple's concealment ultimately led to a software update in December 2016
> that reduced iPhone performance... Apple's concealment of the battery
> issues and decision to throttle the performance of consumers' iPhones
> *led to Apple profiting from selling additional iPhones to consumers*
> whose phone performance Apple had slowed.
>
> Apple customers were left with only one option-the most expensive one.
> https://www.tn.gov/attorneygeneral/news/2020/11/25/pr20-53.html

Those are allegations... ...not agreed upon facts:

"Based on the multistate investigation, the attorneys general allege..."

And, "announced a $113 million settlement"...

....is not nearly "a billion dollars".

Just factual things you got wrong...

....as usual.

Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)

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Subject: Re: iCloud encryption (Apple lied)
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 8 Dec 2022 18:53 UTC

Apple lied about encryption but recently many articles are saying that
Apple only recently rectified its years of public lies about privacy by
actually implementing an (opt in) ability to encrypt more of your data.

<https://www.macrumors.com/2022/12/08/fbi-privacy-groups-icloud-encryption/>

In that article multiple privacy advocates are quoted saying Apple privacy
is actually, finally, after years of Apple's lies to the contrary, catching
up to Apple's expensive and (up until now all lies) advertising of privacy.

While nobody lies like Apple lies, at least Apple is making good this time.
Good for Apple.

As the article states, Apple is finally catching up to the other companies.
Good for Apple.

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