Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
- despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their ability to infect humans'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html

So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
HIV and COVID was not enough???

On a sunny day (Mon, 3 Oct 2022 00:41:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<4513b49e-b338-401b-a008-c465f525fca8n@googlegroups.com>:

>On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:15:57 PM UTC+11, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
>> - despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
>> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their ability to infect humans'
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
>>
>> So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
>> HIV and COVID was not enough???
>
>The Daily Mail publisheses nonsense designed to suck in idiots. Cursitor Doom liked it a lot, and Jan Panteltje seems to be just
>as silly.

Well they do publish facts.
And I like their reporting.

Your gov's brainwash is now so solidified that those poor neurons
no longer accept a new configuration.

On Monday, 3 October 2022 at 09:15:57 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
> - despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their ability to infect humans'
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
>
> So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
> HIV and COVID was not enough???
UK is low science today,
so a single British researcher, donated with pocket sized grant, makes no difference.

To study bat coronaviruses you need to invest B$s and since you don't have money, contact Institute of Virology in Wuhan and read 1,000+ r&d papers for free first.
Professor Bat-Woman is global leader in the study of bat coronaviruses, since she studied bat coronaviruses in Tibet, as a student of medicine.

UK is small island, small population land, alike Australia, alike Canada, generating no high-science or research,

populating BBC news media for the mass, generating social traffic only

On 03/10/2022 08:14, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
> - despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their ability to infect humans'
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
>
> So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
> HIV and COVID was not enough???

It is not called the Daily Wail for nothing!

According them everything is either s *SUPERFOOD* or *CAUSES CANCER*.

They only care about crazy clickbait headlines to sucker the gullible.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On a sunny day (Mon, 3 Oct 2022 02:40:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<d38b6bbb-d724-4278-8d4a-bc8d532c76f0n@googlegroups.com>:

>My government got taken over by the Labor Party (Partij van de Arbeid) in June,
>so if they were brainwashing me - which they aren't - the story I'd be
>backing would have changed (which it hasn't). You may find this difficult to
>believe (or understand) but some people can think for themselves. Some of
>us have been doing it for decades.

Well so your brain froze already during the previous one :-)
But I will not divulge in an endless thread like Slowmany versus the renowable FlyGuy.

What will become of humanity after the next US bioweapons experiment goes out of control ..??
Come to think of it, you?

beep

On a sunny day (Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:17:22 +0100) it happened Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <the9b3$p12$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

>On 03/10/2022 08:14, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
>> - despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
>> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their ability to infect humans'
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
>>
>> So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
>> HIV and COVID was not enough???
>
>It is not called the Daily Wail for nothing!
>
>According them everything is either s *SUPERFOOD* or *CAUSES CANCER*.
>
>They only care about crazy clickbait headlines to sucker the gullible.

I read news from many sources plus info from many countries in many languages all over the world
via satellite TV.
Dailymail is refreshing compared to all other censored and controlled shit.
It does have the humorous aspect..
The mess UK is in ATM is really sad, people not being able to pay their bills,
Truss or whatever her name is relief proposal already overthrown.. fear mongering,
a health system that has become a non functional danger system,

Maybe,, just like after the mass infections before WW1, WW3 will follow covid,
bit of market crash will help...

Dark times ahead..
To be able to publish the truth like Dailymail now does and not repeat what US government
spoon-feeds you what to say, is good.

This UK government should be replaced by one that really cares about the people.
Same for EU BTW... it has become a puppet of the US Military Industrial Complex and
is abused by US like Afghanistan was, Iraq was, so many other countries were and are.

So.. a bit of nuking why not....

I had a typical idea for design of a bioweapon few days ago...
You ain't seen nothing yet.

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 3:15:57 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
> - despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their ability to infect humans'
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
>
> So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
> HIV and COVID was not enough???

!!!!!O!!!!!M!!!!!G!!!!
What's next!?!?!

Daszak and the EcoAlliance are in the U.S., not the U.K. The 650k over 5years is such a pittance it's nearly a defunding.

You can read about Daszak here, he's a cofounder of a new field of Conservation Medicine which is vitally important in this day and time.
https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/personnel/dr-peter-daszak

They're not doing any kind of dreaded "gain of function" research. And putting your head in the sand isn't going to make the human race ( a race to hell ) any safer.

I already linked this article of dispassionately objective and thorough scientific research into the exact origin of the COVID-19 pandemic. The statistical and DNA analysis they managed to collect is very convincing, much more so than some hearsay crap rumor material the media uses.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715

In article <the9b3$p12$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

>It is not called the Daily Wail for nothing!
>According them everything is either s *SUPERFOOD* or *CAUSES CANCER*.

I think some of the things they claim both cause AND cure cancer. At the
same time ;)

c/o Russell Howard's "Good News" for the musically minded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7JTjltDOwE
--
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Mike Brown: mjb[-at-]signal11.org.uk | http://www.signal11.org.uk

On a sunny day (Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:10:47 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<37419baa-b028-4bd6-9327-64075a70e3f7n@googlegroups.com>:

>On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 3:15:57 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
>>
>- despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
>> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their
>ability to infect humans'
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
>>
>>
>So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
>> HIV and COVID was not enough???
>
>
>!!!!!O!!!!!M!!!!!G!!!!
>What's next!?!?!
>
>Daszak and the EcoAlliance are in the U.S., not the U.K. The 650k over 5years
>is such a pittance it's nearly a defunding.
>
>You can read about Daszak here, he's a cofounder of a new field of Conservation
>Medicine which is vitally important in this day and time.
>https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/personnel/dr-peter-daszak
>
>They're not doing any kind of dreaded "gain of function" research. And putting
>your head in the sand isn't going to make the human race ( a race to hell
>) any safer.
>
>I already linked this article of dispassionately objective and thorough scientific
>research into the exact origin of the COVID-19 pandemic. The statistical
>and DNA analysis they managed to collect is very convincing, much more
>so than some hearsay crap rumor material the media uses.
>https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715

Did you read Atehrs ino and affiliations?
Much more likely some guy eeeh person from Wuhan lab was infected and bought a fish or something at that market.

On a sunny day (Mon, 3 Oct 2022 23:39:00 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<ef78c1c2-e271-418b-b91e-ddf862a51ea5n@googlegroups.com>:

>On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 4:58:04 PM UTC+11, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:10:47 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <37419baa-b028-4bd6...@googlegroups.com>:
>> >On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 3:15:57 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> >> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
>> >>
>> >- despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
>> >> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their
>> >ability to infect humans'
>> >> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
>> >> HIV and COVID was not enough???
>> >
>> >
>> >!!!!!O!!!!!M!!!!!G!!!!
>> >What's next!?!?!
>> >
>> >Daszak and the EcoAlliance are in the U.S., not the U.K. The 650k over 5years
>> >is such a pittance it's nearly a defunding.
>> >
>> >You can read about Daszak here, he's a cofounder of a new field of Conservation
>> >Medicine which is vitally important in this day and time.
>> >https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/personnel/dr-peter-daszak
>> >
>> >They're not doing any kind of dreaded "gain of function" research. And putting
>> >your head in the sand isn't going to make the human race ( a race to hell
>> >) any safer.
>> >
>> >I already linked this article of dispassionately objective and thorough scientific
>> >research into the exact origin of the COVID-19 pandemic. The statistical
>> >and DNA analysis they managed to collect is very convincing, much more
>> >so than some hearsay crap rumor material the media uses.
>
>> >https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715
>> Did you read authors info and affiliations?
>>
>> Much more likely some guy eeeh person from Wuhan lab was infected and bought a fish or something at that market.
>
>Much less likely. Virus researchers very rarely get infected by the viruses they are working on - it's a risk, but they go to a
>lot of trouble to minimise it.
>
>Places like the Wuhan wet-food market aren't nearly as careful. And a fish is a very unlikely vector.

No but the guy was not wearing a face mask and contaminated everybody and especially the sales person
who then did the rest..

On 03/10/2022 13:31, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:17:22 +0100) it happened Martin Brown
> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <the9b3$p12$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
>
>> On 03/10/2022 08:14, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
>>> - despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
>>> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their ability to infect humans'
>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
>>>
>>> So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
>>> HIV and COVID was not enough???
>>
>> It is not called the Daily Wail for nothing!
>>
>> According them everything is either s *SUPERFOOD* or *CAUSES CANCER*.
>>
>> They only care about crazy clickbait headlines to sucker the gullible.
>
> I read news from many sources plus info from many countries in many languages all over the world
> via satellite TV.

What a pity that your comprehension of the English language is so weak.

> Dailymail is refreshing compared to all other censored and controlled shit.
> It does have the humorous aspect..

They are aiming at a core market certifiable right whingers of the hang
'em and flog 'em brigade.

> The mess UK is in ATM is really sad, people not being able to pay their bills,
> Truss or whatever her name is relief proposal already overthrown.. fear mongering,
> a health system that has become a non functional danger system,

She has permitted unlimited bankers bonuses, but failed to get through a
big borrowing scheme to reduce their top rate of tax from 45% to 40%. It
is piss on the poor economics. Even her own party wouldn't vote for it.
A sufficient number of them still have a conscience (but only just).

The NHS is deliberately underfunded by the UK government because they
want to make room for US privatised medicine to enter the market. They
are the party for spivs and speculators with more than £1M in assets and
no conscience - basically in bed with the hedge fund managers.

> Maybe,, just like after the mass infections before WW1, WW3 will follow covid,
> bit of market crash will help...

They've done a really good job on that last week. Crashed the pound to
near parity with the dollar (assisted by those wonderful bankers who
helpfully shorted the pound - possibly using insider information but
*very* hard to prove). They were all partying together at a champagne
reception the night before the "mini" budget! Euphemistically called a
"Fiscal Event" to avoid having to publish the "reasoning" behind it.

Consequences of that were that the UK mortgage market has collapsed and
UK pension funds with "low risk" long term gilts risked going insolvent.
The Bank of England is having to buy them up in unlimited quantities to
clear up the mess that our brain dead PM has created (although she
blames her Chancellor). They didn't even run it past the Cabinet first!

Kwasi ineffective will go down in history as the most inept Chancellor
of the Exchequer that the UK has *EVER* had bar none.

> Dark times ahead..

Definitely. Ofgem have been forced to admit that the UK is very likely
to be in emergency gas shortage this winter with powercuts and penalty
clauses that could bankrupt my energy supplier (a real one that makes
it). UK deregulated so you can buy energy from clueless middlemen with
daft names like Ovo and Octopus (I'm not making them up!).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63118574

UK has 10 days of gas storage capacity all up. That won't last long in a
cold winter. Most EU countries have >60 days worth - we are exporting it
like crazy right now to fill up their tanks because ours are brim full.

We will have to buy it back this winter at usurious spot market prices
or freeze - if it is a cold winter they won't want to sell to us.

> To be able to publish the truth like Dailymail now does and not repeat what US government
> spoon-feeds you what to say, is good.

DailyWail is for deranged conspiracy nutters like you.

> This UK government should be replaced by one that really cares about the people.

YOU are joking right? The senile delinquents members of the Tory Party
put little miss Nasty in power because she doesn't care about anyone who
isn't a Tory Party donor. UK policy is dictated by the super rich now!

We are in an era of "Trickle down" economics. Cuts all around.

Haves will get tax cuts and the poor will get benefit cuts - what is not
to like if you are a heartless capitalist bastard. The poor are there to
exploit.

> Same for EU BTW... it has become a puppet of the US Military Industrial Complex and
> is abused by US like Afghanistan was, Iraq was, so many other countries were and are.

EU is much more centralist politics and less dogmatic far right (with
the possible exception now of Italy which is now dabbling with fascism).

> So.. a bit of nuking why not....

It will destroy our ability to make inexpensive complex semiconductors
if there are any nuclear airbursts or worse still ground bursts. Zone
refining can sort the silicon out (more or less) but the packaging
components also need to be free of alpha and beta emitters.

We have been lucky with the development of ever finer features on
silicon chips tracking the decline in short lived isotopes from the
nuclear tests of the 1960's. Our instruments could still see exotic
fission products in the cleanest natural water as late as 2000 (and
probably still can).

> I had a typical idea for design of a bioweapon few days ago...
> You ain't seen nothing yet.

Stick to electronics = you know it makes sense.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

#youarestupiddog

c oronaviruses were brought to Wuhan on boards of cruise ships from Norway, US, entering China, Wuhan via Yangcy
visiting fish m arket in Wuhan.

On a sunny day (Tue, 4 Oct 2022 09:17:22 +0100) it happened Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <thgq6j$a6b$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

>On 03/10/2022 13:31, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:17:22 +0100) it happened Martin Brown
>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <the9b3$p12$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
>>
>>> On 03/10/2022 08:14, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
>>>> - despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
>>>> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their ability to infect humans'
>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
>>>>
>>>> So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
>>>> HIV and COVID was not enough???
>>>
>>> It is not called the Daily Wail for nothing!
>>>
>>> According them everything is either s *SUPERFOOD* or *CAUSES CANCER*.
>>>
>>> They only care about crazy clickbait headlines to sucker the gullible.
>>
>> I read news from many sources plus info from many countries in many languages all over the world
>> via satellite TV.
>
>What a pity that your comprehension of the English language is so weak.
>
>> Dailymail is refreshing compared to all other censored and controlled shit.
>> It does have the humorous aspect..
>
>They are aiming at a core market certifiable right whingers of the hang
>'em and flog 'em brigade.
>
>> The mess UK is in ATM is really sad, people not being able to pay their bills,
>> Truss or whatever her name is relief proposal already overthrown.. fear mongering,
>> a health system that has become a non functional danger system,
>
>She has permitted unlimited bankers bonuses, but failed to get through a
>big borrowing scheme to reduce their top rate of tax from 45% to 40%. It
>is piss on the poor economics. Even her own party wouldn't vote for it.
>A sufficient number of them still have a conscience (but only just).
>
>The NHS is deliberately underfunded by the UK government because they
>want to make room for US privatised medicine to enter the market. They
>are the party for spivs and speculators with more than £1M in assets and
>no conscience - basically in bed with the hedge fund managers.
>
>> Maybe,, just like after the mass infections before WW1, WW3 will follow covid,
>> bit of market crash will help...
>
>They've done a really good job on that last week. Crashed the pound to
>near parity with the dollar (assisted by those wonderful bankers who
>helpfully shorted the pound - possibly using insider information but
>*very* hard to prove). They were all partying together at a champagne
>reception the night before the "mini" budget! Euphemistically called a
>"Fiscal Event" to avoid having to publish the "reasoning" behind it.
>
>Consequences of that were that the UK mortgage market has collapsed and
>UK pension funds with "low risk" long term gilts risked going insolvent.
>The Bank of England is having to buy them up in unlimited quantities to
>clear up the mess that our brain dead PM has created (although she
>blames her Chancellor). They didn't even run it past the Cabinet first!
>
>Kwasi ineffective will go down in history as the most inept Chancellor
>of the Exchequer that the UK has *EVER* had bar none.
>
>> Dark times ahead..
>
>Definitely. Ofgem have been forced to admit that the UK is very likely
>to be in emergency gas shortage this winter with powercuts and penalty
>clauses that could bankrupt my energy supplier (a real one that makes
>it). UK deregulated so you can buy energy from clueless middlemen with
>daft names like Ovo and Octopus (I'm not making them up!).
>
>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63118574
>
>UK has 10 days of gas storage capacity all up. That won't last long in a
>cold winter. Most EU countries have >60 days worth - we are exporting it
>like crazy right now to fill up their tanks because ours are brim full.
>
>We will have to buy it back this winter at usurious spot market prices
>or freeze - if it is a cold winter they won't want to sell to us.
>
>> To be able to publish the truth like Dailymail now does and not repeat what US government
>> spoon-feeds you what to say, is good.
>
>DailyWail is for deranged conspiracy nutters like you.
>
>> This UK government should be replaced by one that really cares about the people.
>
>YOU are joking right? The senile delinquents members of the Tory Party
>put little miss Nasty in power because she doesn't care about anyone who
>isn't a Tory Party donor. UK policy is dictated by the super rich now!
>
>We are in an era of "Trickle down" economics. Cuts all around.
>
>Haves will get tax cuts and the poor will get benefit cuts - what is not
>to like if you are a heartless capitalist bastard. The poor are there to
>exploit.
>
>> Same for EU BTW... it has become a puppet of the US Military Industrial Complex and
>> is abused by US like Afghanistan was, Iraq was, so many other countries were and are.
>
>EU is much more centralist politics and less dogmatic far right (with
>the possible exception now of Italy which is now dabbling with fascism).
>
>> So.. a bit of nuking why not....
>
>It will destroy our ability to make inexpensive complex semiconductors
>if there are any nuclear airbursts or worse still ground bursts. Zone
>refining can sort the silicon out (more or less) but the packaging
>components also need to be free of alpha and beta emitters.
>
>We have been lucky with the development of ever finer features on
>silicon chips tracking the decline in short lived isotopes from the
>nuclear tests of the 1960's. Our instruments could still see exotic
>fission products in the cleanest natural water as late as 2000 (and
>probably still can).
>
>> I had a typical idea for design of a bioweapon few days ago...
>> You ain't seen nothing yet.
>
>Stick to electronics = you know it makes sense.

I think we agree on a lot about the UK.
As to understanding, I lived and worked in London ..
there even was a strip about me in one of the big papers once...
LOL

Been a while since I was in the UK, last time Brighton on the beach..
electronics makes sense?
After the nuking all those smartphones and electronic money and QR codes will
no longer exist.
No teefee, maybe MAYBE some radio...
Space wars, US space force, no communication satellites,
only shortwave radio for news from other countries.

We EU, should really drop the US puppet dance.. and act in our own
interest.
Was looking at a documentary about China on some German info channel yesterday
supermarket: only smartphones and QR codes and you could pick a fish from an aquarium
and have it cooked and served to your table there with just a click and QR code..
It is getting harder to get cash here, they closed many of those ATMs here
they say because those get blown up, but I think they want to get rid of cash
altogether, big banks taking control of everything and everybody.
But.. no electrickety and none of that works.
Buy some gold...
But you cannot eat gold either...
So... solar panels, desalinator for drinking water, live on the coast, eat radioactive? fish.

anyways, we are just a chemical reaction like there 100% likely are all over the universe...
and I am sure radiation levels must have been very high when life evolved, DNA has repair mechanisms
I am still around after Chernoblyl fallout (where I worked the airco filters had to be replaced becasue those were 'hot'),
so ... life after the nuking may not be so bad.

But electronics??

On a sunny day (Tue, 4 Oct 2022 00:51:38 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<5328ae0d-c245-417e-a9a4-4857c4a6ba23n@googlegroups.com>:

>> No but the guy was not wearing a face mask and contaminated everybody and especially the sales person
>> who then did the rest..
>
>Don't be stupid. Virus researchers are protected by much more comprehensive enclosures than mere face masks.

The person was carrying the virus, maybe even without noticing it,
left the lab and bought that fish on the way home.

I had a second idea for a bio weapon this morning:
'put some of YOUR brain DNA in a virus; that will do away with the species I am sure'

hehe

On a sunny day (Tue, 4 Oct 2022 05:50:01 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<c2e5bd66-469f-4f59-8374-59476b49af7en@googlegroups.com>:

>On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 11:12:21 PM UTC+11, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Tue, 4 Oct 2022 00:51:38 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
>> William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
>> <5328ae0d-c245-417e...@googlegroups.com>:
>> >> No but the guy was not wearing a face mask and contaminated everybody and especially the sales person
>> >> who then did the rest..
>> >
>> >Don't be stupid. Virus researchers are protected by much more comprehensive enclosures than mere face masks.
>>
>> The person was carrying the virus, maybe even without noticing it, left the lab and bought that fish on the way home.
>
>That's just as stupid.

Have you ever seen how they use those protective suits?
I was appalled...
Leaking some virus would be a high probabiliy, desinfection stage an other danger source,
bit of a hurry to get home and a fresh fish is all you need.

>> I had a second idea for a bio weapon this morning: 'put some of YOUR brain DNA in a virus; that will do away with the species
>> I am sure'
>
>You couldn't get much of it into a virus. Every cell in the human body has got same DNA - some three billion base pairs. Not all
>the base pairs are active (and which one are active varies from cell to cell).
>
>Even DNA viruses are much smaller than that - up to about 300,000 base pairs. You'd be restricted to a very small portion of my
>genome, and whatever it was you had in mind wouldn't work the way you seem to be imagining.

You'd only need a little bit.
You probably heard about bytes and bits, now a little bit is one step smaller.

>So it's an even more stupid idea.

>Are you deliberately competing with Skybuck Flying and Gnatguy to be seen as the dimmest idiot
>who posts here?

Well beauty is in the beholders eye they say,

On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 4:17:38 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:
> On 03/10/2022 13:31, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > On a sunny day (Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:17:22 +0100) it happened Martin Brown
> > <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <the9b3$p12$1...@gioia.aioe.org>:
> >
> >> On 03/10/2022 08:14, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >>> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
> >>> - despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
> >>> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their ability to infect humans'
> >>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
> >>>
> >>> So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
> >>> HIV and COVID was not enough???
> >>
> >> It is not called the Daily Wail for nothing!
> >>
> >> According them everything is either s *SUPERFOOD* or *CAUSES CANCER*.
> >>
> >> They only care about crazy clickbait headlines to sucker the gullible.
> >
> > I read news from many sources plus info from many countries in many languages all over the world
> > via satellite TV.
> What a pity that your comprehension of the English language is so weak.
> > Dailymail is refreshing compared to all other censored and controlled shit.
> > It does have the humorous aspect..
> They are aiming at a core market certifiable right whingers of the hang
> 'em and flog 'em brigade.
> > The mess UK is in ATM is really sad, people not being able to pay their bills,
> > Truss or whatever her name is relief proposal already overthrown.. fear mongering,
> > a health system that has become a non functional danger system,
> She has permitted unlimited bankers bonuses, but failed to get through a
> big borrowing scheme to reduce their top rate of tax from 45% to 40%. It
> is piss on the poor economics. Even her own party wouldn't vote for it.
> A sufficient number of them still have a conscience (but only just).
>
> The NHS is deliberately underfunded by the UK government because they
> want to make room for US privatised medicine to enter the market. They
> are the party for spivs and speculators with more than £1M in assets and
> no conscience - basically in bed with the hedge fund managers.
> > Maybe,, just like after the mass infections before WW1, WW3 will follow covid,
> > bit of market crash will help...
> They've done a really good job on that last week. Crashed the pound to
> near parity with the dollar (assisted by those wonderful bankers who
> helpfully shorted the pound - possibly using insider information but
> *very* hard to prove). They were all partying together at a champagne
> reception the night before the "mini" budget! Euphemistically called a
> "Fiscal Event" to avoid having to publish the "reasoning" behind it.
>
> Consequences of that were that the UK mortgage market has collapsed and
> UK pension funds with "low risk" long term gilts risked going insolvent.
> The Bank of England is having to buy them up in unlimited quantities to
> clear up the mess that our brain dead PM has created (although she
> blames her Chancellor). They didn't even run it past the Cabinet first!
>
> Kwasi ineffective will go down in history as the most inept Chancellor
> of the Exchequer that the UK has *EVER* had bar none.
>
> > Dark times ahead..
>
> Definitely. Ofgem have been forced to admit that the UK is very likely
> to be in emergency gas shortage this winter with powercuts and penalty
> clauses that could bankrupt my energy supplier (a real one that makes
> it). UK deregulated so you can buy energy from clueless middlemen with
> daft names like Ovo and Octopus (I'm not making them up!).
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63118574
>
> UK has 10 days of gas storage capacity all up. That won't last long in a
> cold winter. Most EU countries have >60 days worth - we are exporting it
> like crazy right now to fill up their tanks because ours are brim full.
>
> We will have to buy it back this winter at usurious spot market prices
> or freeze - if it is a cold winter they won't want to sell to us.
> > To be able to publish the truth like Dailymail now does and not repeat what US government
> > spoon-feeds you what to say, is good.
> DailyWail is for deranged conspiracy nutters like you.
> > This UK government should be replaced by one that really cares about the people.
> YOU are joking right? The senile delinquents members of the Tory Party
> put little miss Nasty in power because she doesn't care about anyone who
> isn't a Tory Party donor. UK policy is dictated by the super rich now!
>
> We are in an era of "Trickle down" economics. Cuts all around.
>
> Haves will get tax cuts and the poor will get benefit cuts - what is not
> to like if you are a heartless capitalist bastard. The poor are there to
> exploit.
> > Same for EU BTW... it has become a puppet of the US Military Industrial Complex and
> > is abused by US like Afghanistan was, Iraq was, so many other countries were and are.
> EU is much more centralist politics and less dogmatic far right (with
> the possible exception now of Italy which is now dabbling with fascism).
> > So.. a bit of nuking why not....
> It will destroy our ability to make inexpensive complex semiconductors
> if there are any nuclear airbursts or worse still ground bursts. Zone
> refining can sort the silicon out (more or less) but the packaging
> components also need to be free of alpha and beta emitters.
>
> We have been lucky with the development of ever finer features on
> silicon chips tracking the decline in short lived isotopes from the
> nuclear tests of the 1960's. Our instruments could still see exotic
> fission products in the cleanest natural water as late as 2000 (and
> probably still can).
> > I had a typical idea for design of a bioweapon few days ago...
> > You ain't seen nothing yet.
> Stick to electronics = you know it makes sense.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Martin Brown

You have that despicable career lackey Rees-Mogg as 'Business, Energy, and Industrial Strategy' Minister- doing as much damage as possible. Just his appearance speaks volumes about him.

On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 1:58:04 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:10:47 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
> <37419baa-b028-4bd6...@googlegroups.com>:
> >On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 3:15:57 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
> >>
> >- despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
> >> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their
> >ability to infect humans'
> >> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
> >>
> >>
> >So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
> >> HIV and COVID was not enough???
> >
> >
> >!!!!!O!!!!!M!!!!!G!!!!
> >What's next!?!?!
> >
> >Daszak and the EcoAlliance are in the U.S., not the U.K. The 650k over 5years
> >is such a pittance it's nearly a defunding.
> >
> >You can read about Daszak here, he's a cofounder of a new field of Conservation
> >Medicine which is vitally important in this day and time.
> >https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/personnel/dr-peter-daszak
> >
> >They're not doing any kind of dreaded "gain of function" research. And putting
> >your head in the sand isn't going to make the human race ( a race to hell
> >) any safer.
> >
> >I already linked this article of dispassionately objective and thorough scientific
> >research into the exact origin of the COVID-19 pandemic. The statistical
> >and DNA analysis they managed to collect is very convincing, much more
> >so than some hearsay crap rumor material the media uses.
> >https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715
> Did you read Atehrs ino and affiliations?
> Much more likely some guy eeeh person from Wuhan lab was infected and bought a fish or something at that market.
Did you even read that Science article I linked???

They found DNA evidence of the exact pandemic wild strain SARS-Cov-2 in the exact cages, using cell phone images of visitors, of those racoon looking things and in the area used to butcher the hapless animals. The scientists who actually study facts with certainty have identified several wildlife reservoirs of the virus. Here in the U.S. the USDA has found the white tailed deer population has become a reservoir for SARS-CoV-2.
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_health/one_health/downloads/qa-covid-white-tailed-deer-study.pdf
The situation is much worse in Asia, and especially worse in southern China.. The most likely scenario is an infected animal was brought into the market, and may have infected other susceptible species there and the humans who handled the animals, especially the butchers.
We also know from experience during the pandemic how this virus develops variants quite readily, making it quite likely, actually more likely, the wild kingdom finally nurtured a variant highly infectious to humans.

On a sunny day (Tue, 4 Oct 2022 07:58:27 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<4508feb8-f353-40cf-9739-f8ef9f3c8a09n@googlegroups.com>:

>On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 1:58:04 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:10:47 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
>>
><bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <37419baa-b028-4bd6...@googlegroups.com>:
>> >On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 3:15:57 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> >> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
>>
>>>
>> >- despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
>> >> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their
>>
>>ability to infect humans'
>> >> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
>>
>>>
>> >>
>> >So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
>> >> HIV and COVID was not enough???
>> >
>> >
>> >!!!!!O!!!!!M!!!!!G!!!!
>> >What's next!?!?!
>> >
>> >Daszak and the EcoAlliance are in the U.S., not the U.K. The 650k over 5years
>>
>>is such a pittance it's nearly a defunding.
>> >
>> >You can read about Daszak here, he's a cofounder of a new field of Conservation
>>
>>Medicine which is vitally important in this day and time.
>> >https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/personnel/dr-peter-daszak
>> >
>> >They're not doing any kind of dreaded "gain of function" research. And putting
>>
>>your head in the sand isn't going to make the human race ( a race to hell
>>
>>) any safer.
>> >
>> >I already linked this article of dispassionately objective and thorough scientific
>>
>>research into the exact origin of the COVID-19 pandemic. The statistical
>>
>>and DNA analysis they managed to collect is very convincing, much more
>>
>>so than some hearsay crap rumor material the media uses.
>> >https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715
>> Did you read Atehrs ino and affiliations?
>> Much more likely some guy eeeh person from Wuhan lab was infected and bought
>a fish or something at that market.
>
>Did you even read that Science article I linked???
>
>They found DNA evidence of the exact pandemic wild strain SARS-Cov-2 in the
>exact cages, using cell phone images of visitors, of those racoon looking
>things and in the area used to butcher the hapless animals. The scientists
>who actually study facts with certainty have identified several wildlife reservoirs
>of the virus. Here in the U.S. the USDA has found the white tailed
>deer population has become a reservoir for SARS-CoV-2.
>https://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_health/one_health/downloads/qa-covid-white-tailed-deer-study.pdf
>The
>situation is much worse in Asia, and especially worse in southern China.
>The most likely scenario is an infected animal was brought into the market,
>and may have infected other susceptible species there and the humans who
>handled the animals, especially the butchers.
>We also know from experience during the pandemic how this virus develops variants
>quite readily, making it quite likely, actually more likely, the wild
>kingdom finally nurtured a variant highly infectious to humans.

Well, believe what you want
the US will do its best to deny they ever had anything to do with it.
Media are its instrument to play you and the masses.
covid gain of function was a US sponsored project,
probability that it just happened from the wild in that market next tot the lab where
that gain of function was being designed at exactly the same time is zero.

A sloom man cried:

>Beauty is a subjective term. Stupidity is somewhat less debatable. You really are stupid, and while some of the people who post
>here may be silly enough to give you the benefit of the doubt, you really don't deserve it.

I should not have posted using your brain DNA in a virus as biological weapon, it is very very dangerous
..!

On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Tue, 4 Oct 2022 07:58:27 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
> <4508feb8-f353-40cf...@googlegroups.com>:
> >On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 1:58:04 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >> On a sunny day (Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:10:47 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
> >>
> ><bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> <37419baa-b028-4bd6...@googlegroups.com>:
> >> >On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 3:15:57 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >> >> Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID
> >>
> >>>
> >> >- despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic:
> >> >> Peter Daszak is paid $3.3m to study bat coronaviruses - and 'assess their
> >>
> >>ability to infect humans'
> >> >> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html
> >>
> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >So more biological warfare from 'merricans!!!!
> >> >> HIV and COVID was not enough???
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >!!!!!O!!!!!M!!!!!G!!!!
> >> >What's next!?!?!
> >> >
> >> >Daszak and the EcoAlliance are in the U.S., not the U.K. The 650k over 5years
> >>
> >>is such a pittance it's nearly a defunding.
> >> >
> >> >You can read about Daszak here, he's a cofounder of a new field of Conservation
> >>
> >>Medicine which is vitally important in this day and time.
> >> >https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/personnel/dr-peter-daszak
> >> >
> >> >They're not doing any kind of dreaded "gain of function" research. And putting
> >>
> >>your head in the sand isn't going to make the human race ( a race to hell
> >>
> >>) any safer.
> >> >
> >> >I already linked this article of dispassionately objective and thorough scientific
> >>
> >>research into the exact origin of the COVID-19 pandemic. The statistical
> >>
> >>and DNA analysis they managed to collect is very convincing, much more
> >>
> >>so than some hearsay crap rumor material the media uses.
> >> >https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715
> >> Did you read Atehrs ino and affiliations?
> >> Much more likely some guy eeeh person from Wuhan lab was infected and bought
> >a fish or something at that market.
> >
> >Did you even read that Science article I linked???
> >
> >They found DNA evidence of the exact pandemic wild strain SARS-Cov-2 in the
> >exact cages, using cell phone images of visitors, of those racoon looking
> >things and in the area used to butcher the hapless animals. The scientists
> >who actually study facts with certainty have identified several wildlife reservoirs
> >of the virus. Here in the U.S. the USDA has found the white tailed
> >deer population has become a reservoir for SARS-CoV-2.
> >https://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_health/one_health/downloads/qa-covid-white-tailed-deer-study.pdf
> >The
> >situation is much worse in Asia, and especially worse in southern China.
> >The most likely scenario is an infected animal was brought into the market,
> >and may have infected other susceptible species there and the humans who
> >handled the animals, especially the butchers.
> >We also know from experience during the pandemic how this virus develops variants
> >quite readily, making it quite likely, actually more likely, the wild
> >kingdom finally nurtured a variant highly infectious to humans.
> Well, believe what you want
> the US will do its best to deny they ever had anything to do with it.
> Media are its instrument to play you and the masses.
> covid gain of function was a US sponsored project,
> probability that it just happened from the wild in that market next tot the lab where
> that gain of function was being designed at exactly the same time is zero..

You're crediting the Chinese with way too much capability. Chinese were not doing any gain of function genetic engineering, their job was mainly field collection and tedious laboratory characterization of the samples. Only the U.S. and on a very small scale was doing any genetic engineering. And the virus they were playing with had very little resemblance to the SARS-CoV-2.. As is usually the case, nature trumped mankind's puny little efforts.

#lowbrainer