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* Sony puts a 1" sensor into a phone then only uses 60% of itAlfred Molon
+* Re: Sony puts a 1" sensor into a phone then only uses 60% of itAlan Browne
|`* Re: Sony puts a 1" sensor into a phone then only uses 60% of itAlfred Molon
| +* Re: Sony puts a 1" sensor into a phone then only uses 60% of itdanny burstein
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| `- Re: Sony puts a 1" sensor into a phone then only uses 60% of itRichA
`- Re: Sony puts a 1" sensor into a phone then only uses 60% of itIncubus

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 by: Alfred Molon - Tue, 26 Oct 2021 17:40 UTC

See the comments section of this article:
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/25/sony-unveils-the-xperia-pro-i-first-smartphone-with-1-inch-pdaf-sensor/

Seems to be a 20MP 1" sensor "cropped" to 12MP...
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 by: Alan Browne - Tue, 26 Oct 2021 18:51 UTC

On 2021-10-26 13:40, Alfred Molon wrote:
> See the comments section of this article:
> https://petapixel.com/2021/10/25/sony-unveils-the-xperia-pro-i-first-smartphone-with-1-inch-pdaf-sensor/
>
>
> Seems to be a 20MP 1" sensor "cropped" to 12MP...

Could be the desirable signal/noise characteristics.

Or simply for that s/n characteristic, no components were available at
the 'right' size, (manufacturing choke everywhere), but ample larger
sensors are available from inventories.

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Am 26.10.2021 um 20:51 schrieb Alan Browne:
> On 2021-10-26 13:40, Alfred Molon wrote:
>> See the comments section of this article:
>> https://petapixel.com/2021/10/25/sony-unveils-the-xperia-pro-i-first-smartphone-with-1-inch-pdaf-sensor/
>>
>>
>> Seems to be a 20MP 1" sensor "cropped" to 12MP...
>
>
> Could be the desirable signal/noise characteristics.
>
> Or simply for that s/n characteristic, no components were available at
> the 'right' size, (manufacturing choke everywhere), but ample larger
> sensors are available from inventories.

Well, Sony could have put a larger lens on that phone and used all 20MP
of the sensor. Never mind about the protruding "blob" (they could also
added a filter thread, or maybe even a lens mount ;-) ).
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at
https://groups.io/g/myolympus
https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

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 by: danny burstein - Wed, 27 Oct 2021 01:44 UTC

In <Vh_dJ.3056$CbNa.2942@fx01.ams1> Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> writes:

>> Or simply for that s/n characteristic, no components were available at
>> the 'right' size, (manufacturing choke everywhere), but ample larger
>> sensors are available from inventories.

>Well, Sony could have put a larger lens on that phone and used all 20MP
>of the sensor. Never mind about the protruding "blob" (they could also
>added a filter thread, or maybe even a lens mount ;-) ).

A tripod socket and a cable release threading...

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 by: Incubus - Wed, 27 Oct 2021 09:21 UTC

On 2021-10-26, Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:
> See the comments section of this article:
> https://petapixel.com/2021/10/25/sony-unveils-the-xperia-pro-i-first-smartphone-with-1-inch-pdaf-sensor/
>
> Seems to be a 20MP 1" sensor "cropped" to 12MP...

The Millennial and Gen Y/Z sheep will love it. You can market any old
bullshit to them as long as the specs look good, and they don't even
have to be accurate.

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On 2021-10-26 21:44, danny burstein wrote:
> In <Vh_dJ.3056$CbNa.2942@fx01.ams1> Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>>> Or simply for that s/n characteristic, no components were available at
>>> the 'right' size, (manufacturing choke everywhere), but ample larger
>>> sensors are available from inventories.
>
>> Well, Sony could have put a larger lens on that phone and used all 20MP
>> of the sensor. Never mind about the protruding "blob" (they could also
>> added a filter thread, or maybe even a lens mount ;-) ).
>
> A tripod socket and a cable release threading...

Flash mount
Manual controls
Strap eye holes of course

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On Tuesday, 26 October 2021 at 17:19:55 UTC-4, Alfred Molon wrote:
> Am 26.10.2021 um 20:51 schrieb Alan Browne:
> > On 2021-10-26 13:40, Alfred Molon wrote:
> >> See the comments section of this article:
> >> https://petapixel.com/2021/10/25/sony-unveils-the-xperia-pro-i-first-smartphone-with-1-inch-pdaf-sensor/
> >>
> >>
> >> Seems to be a 20MP 1" sensor "cropped" to 12MP...
> >
> >
> > Could be the desirable signal/noise characteristics.
> >
> > Or simply for that s/n characteristic, no components were available at
> > the 'right' size, (manufacturing choke everywhere), but ample larger
> > sensors are available from inventories.
> Well, Sony could have put a larger lens on that phone and used all 20MP
> of the sensor. Never mind about the protruding "blob" (they could also
> added a filter thread, or maybe even a lens mount ;-) ).
> --
> Alfred Molon
>
> Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at
> https://groups.io/g/myolympus
> https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

Theoretically, it might be possible to produce an add-on lens that would allow the camera to use the whole sensor,
it would be a choice. But most people don't even know their phone has different resolution modes anyway.

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